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(114,904 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:11 AM Jun 2016

This article from 2012 in The Scotsman, sums up trump better than anything I've seen

The Donald is off to Scotland. This could well be a PR nightmare for him.

What in hell is he thinking?

From 2012:

Donald Trump: an unsavoury blend of Midas and King Canute; an uncomfortable fusion of Simon Cowell and Andrew Neil. It’s hard to think of a less sympathetic character in the eyes of most Scots. Despite all his tartanry and trumpeting of heritage, The Donald is almost the anti-Scot personified.

Left and right, unionist and nationalist, man and woman, young and old – it takes quite a lot to unite the people of this notoriously fractious little country in a collective shudder. But Donald Trump effortlessly manages to strike the wrong note in just about everything he does.

The sneering at thrawn locals in modest homes who won’t move out of his way – wrong. The bragging about his power and wealth – wrong. The hotel design that makes Disneyland look culturally authentic – wrong. The staged, posed photocalls – wrong. The entourage of Beautiful People – wrong. The hair – wrong. The bullying manner towards staff, reporters, supporters and opponents – wrong. The naked belief that money can buy everything – wrong. The assumption that a golf course would distract attention from the massive housing project slipped in alongside – wrong. The rusting Hawaiian wind-turbines used in Saturday’s misleading Scottish newspaper ads – wrong. Even the endless references to his Hebridean roots – wrong. Scots are so thoroughly root-bound there’s no need to display origins like consciously-acquired credentials.

Every attribute Scots hold dear is offended by this man – and yet attention and hostility serve only to feed Donald Trump’s overwrought sense of self importance. The Bard well described his type. Holy Wullie – blind to his own conceit, greed and double standards. Or “yon birkie ca’d a Lord, wha’ struts an stares an a’ that”. It’s easy to mock. Really easy. But hardly productive

Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/the-scotsman-2-7475/opinion/comment/lesley-riddoch-donald-trump-sideshow-should-be-ignored-1-2250132#ixzz4COoxIbBB
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And he was a horrid child. Surprise. Surprise. From The WaPo today:


At the military academy where he attended high school, Donny grew taller, more muscular and tougher. Struck with a broomstick during a fight, he tried to push a fellow cadet out a second-floor window, only to be thwarted when two other students intervened.

Long before he attained vast wealth and far-reaching fame, Donald J. Trump left an indelible impression in the prosperous Queens neighborhood where he evolved from a mischievous, incorrigible boy into a swaggering young man.

He was Trump in miniature, an embryonic version of the bombastic, flamboyant candidate who has dominated the 2016 presidential race, more than three dozen of his childhood friends, classmates and neighbors said in interviews. Even Trump has acknowledged the similarities between himself as an adult and when he was the boy whom friends alternately referred to as “Donny,” “The Trumpet” and “Flat Top” (for his hair).

“When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same,” the 70-year-old presumptive Republican nominee once told a biographer. “The temperament is not that different.”

His face crowned by a striking blond pompadour, young Donald commanded attention with his playground taunts, classroom disruptions and distinctive countenance, even then his lips pursed in a way that would inspire future mimics. Taller than his classmates, he exuded an easy confidence and independence.



And from the Huffington Post:

Campaign Reeling, Donald Trump Pivots To, Uhh...Scotland? Okay, Man.


Animosity for Trump in Scotland has hardly dimmed. As Fortune’s Michael D’Antonio reports, “there is probably no country in the world where he is least welcomed.” Among other things, the Scottish people retain the memory of Trump promising that his resorts would provide a vital economic boost and create some 6,000 permanent jobs. Trump fell about 5,850 jobs short of his projection. And along the way, Trump had numerous occasions to display his patented petulance — especially as he attempted to snap up land for his golf courses. Per D’Antonio:

The political tide began to turn against Trump as Scots learned of how he was bullying the few landowners who refused to sell to him. When Susan Munro rejected his bid to buy her property, she said Trump’s workers built a ten-foot high berm of earth around it, blocking her view. Munro’s neighbor just to the north, David Milne, saw Trump’s men plant evergreens twenty feet from his windows when he refused to sell. To the south, farmer Michael Forbes was attacked – his family lived like “pigs,” said Trump — and the developer’s lawyer approached the local government about taking his land by eminent domain.

Opposition to Trump grew, with rallies and protests. An artist displayed caricatures of the man inside the barn on the Forbes property. Hundreds of people became co-owners of the Forbes land, buying tiny interests in the farm in order to make a transfer of the property extremely cumbersome and costly.

When Trump arrives in Scotland, he will be greeted by locals who’ve endeavored to raise Mexican flags within sight of his properties — and who will have their animosity for Trump well primed by Vice President Joe Biden, who will be firing potshots from nearby Ireland.

The Scottish people have a saying: “Why don’t you go take a running fuck at a rolling doughnut.” Reached for comment, Republican strategist Liz Mair — who, like Trump, is both American and Scottish (but unlike Trump has a more substantial affection for property rights) — was slightly more measured in offering her perspective on Trump’s decision to quit the campaign trail at this heady time.



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Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
2. funny you should post this just as I watch donny deutsch saying, "can he just stop acting like an
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:20 AM
Jun 2016


then Nicole Wallace drops in the poll from ohio and PA, in which he leads or is tied



(114,904 posts)
3. The answer to deutsch's question is clearly a resounding no
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jun 2016

I still think he's going to messily implode into a pile of orange shards.


Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
5. media were hitting hard about how well he's doing in the rust belt, and
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jun 2016

how the people don't trust Hillary, and how Trump is better for the economy, all based on one poll

did you read The Hunting of the President?

all out media attack on the Clintons, basically, for 20 years plus, starting with the total mischaracterization of whitewater, in which the prosecutor's summary to the jury detailed how they were the VICTIMS of the person under indictment. they were never charged with Anything

simply amazing

my point is, it's always about the media, and how they always respond to the corporate powers that be

so I wonder what's going to happen

how come no mention of how certifiably insane he is?


(36,937 posts)
8. That is the one I found, as well.
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 07:56 AM
Jun 2016

I thought it was something to do with my NoScript program, but it still didn't work when allowed all scripts.


Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
10. riddoch on cameron/renewable energy....not a big fan of the PM
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 08:02 AM
Jun 2016

he's got a podcast....going to check that out

sorry for OT, but I was checking other stuff he's done
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