Hypothetical gun poll

[Recursion]

From a conversation I'm having.

If you could snap your fingers, and replace every single civilian-owned handgun in the united states with an AR-15, do you think doing that would make the country more safe or less safe?

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	15 (63%)
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	6 (25%)
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[hack89]

1. More safe - rifles are hard as hell to conceal

you would eliminate all those illegal handguns being carried in public. Fewer guns on the street and in cars will go a long way towards reducing gun violence.

[Hoyt]

3. But AR15's, etc., are the easiest to conceal. Some upstanding "law-abiding" gunner examples.

[hack89]

4. I know you are trying to be funny

but this joke doesn't work very well.

You really think you can stick one of those in the waistband of your pants like a pistol? I know it is all about scary white racists militia guys to you but come on - can you come back to reality every now and then?

[Hoyt]

5. Yes, I believe someone like Manteen can do exactly that. And easy to hide in the a car, case, etc.

[hack89]

7. If it so easy why is it so rare?

how come gang members are not walking around with AR-15s stuck in their pants? Could it be that they can't really be hid for more than a very short time?

[Hoyt]

13. Do you understand that we are just in the beginning of terrorism -- foreign and domestic.

We will see more of this crap.

[hack89]

15. Which has nothing to do with the OP. nt

[Scootaloo]

16. You keep scooting that goalpost back further and further

[hack89]

20. You really think a small rifle can be concealed like a handgun?

that you can walk around for hours with it undetected? That's pretty delusional, even for a grabber. Even Hoyt's pictures undermine his premise.

[ileus]

8. Top 2 pics are of AR pistols.

[dumbcat]

10. As is the fourth pic

Most of his pics are of pistols. Kind of makes his point moot.

[ileus]

11. Hadn't noticed but our IT dept blocked the 1st and 4th pics.

Stinkin' innerweb Nazi's...

I have two stripped lowers to build now, would like to make one a pistol but I bought my lowers off facebook and don't know how there were listed on the original 4473. Or do they specify pistol v rifle?

[dumbcat]

12. They should be

on the 4473 as "other" if they were sold as stripped lowers. But not all FFLs get that right if you don't watch them. Many will mistakenly classify them as "rifle." Then you can never build them as a pistol.

Buying stripped lowers off of Facebook? That doesn't look good.

[Hoyt]

18. Thank you Ileus for your gun expertise, how many do you have?

[ileus]

21. too many...

I did replace both tubes in my Jamis Mt Bike yesterday evening. So now I'm ready.

[Hoyt]

22. You still carrying gunz when you ride your bicycle?

[ileus]

24. I only ride for leisure now so it make CC easier.

Back when I was serious about Mt Biking I carried in a small pouch with the tools of the bike trade. I know, I know...off body carry is bad.

These days since I mostly ride with the kids (My sons been putting in 15-25 or more miles a day on summer break) I can carry either in my pocket or just a little fobus holster. When I get out of the saddle for a climb I don't go for time so losing a 45 seconds doesn't bother me.

After all you can't be too safe.

[Hoyt]

25. Never met a paranoid bicycling gunner and I road in some pretty remote areas. I think carrying a gun

while bicycling misses the point, but you seem to have firearms nearby in everything you do. You into armed yoga and/or meditation?

[ileus]

27. You need to hang out at the BF more.

Lots of Threads there...but they always end up going to P&R after 4 or 5 replies.

[Adrahil]

28. I only know one guy who carries while biking.

He rides in the hills of SoCal and started carrying after another biker was attacked and severely injured by a Cougar.

[jmg257]

31. Rode my Jamis yesterday...not too bad, but need to do much more.

I was thinking about replacing it, but man a comparable new one is $$$.

[ileus]

32. I paid like 6xx for mine back in the 90's

It's just a great bike...600 today doesn't get you much of a bike IMHO.



I really need a road bike for the riding I do these days, and that's with a great MT bike trail system behind the house. I just can't ride like that anymore.

[jmg257]

33. Ah - I bought a sweet Trek Domane last year - but road Rail Trails are further then the mt bike

trails, so pick and choose re: the weekend vs after work.

Enjoy!

[peace13]

17. Proceed....

Check out this video on YouTube:

Sorry my techno skills are not good so I am late to the party. It is a sad day for me to read some of the responses here to this video. This man could be a 'dad' walking into a school, a patron walking into a bar, just really anybody in America. It is frightening to me to see the power that can be packed so easily. To say this is not possible is to lie to oneself and the community.

[Duckhunter935]

30. True, and harder to commit suicide

[gordianot]

2. Less safe and I do not use my handgun for protection.

Unloaded, and locked up with multiple locks even though I have a conceal carry permit.

High powered semi auto rifles are not a good choice for home protection even though I have used mine to protect my renters sheep herd once from coyotes.

[whatthehey]

6. Well there's a whole lot of ifs

But assuming they could not be resold/traded for newly made or imported handguns, cet. par would be more safe. Not just based on current criminal usage stats, because plenty of gun crimes simply use whatever cheap Saturday night special is available and would gladly switch to shiny new UBRs given the chance, but rather because concealment and ease of use are essential for some gun crimes and yard of plastic and steel is a bit harder to hide and handle than a snub .38.

[ileus]

9. I'd hate to have to give up my CZs and Sigs for more crappy AR's

I'd trade most my other pistols (except for 4 or 5) for AR's but what use would I have for 10 or 15 more AR's???

[Matrosov]

14. More safe

Rifles in general - whether bolt-action or semi-automatic - make up for a small amount of the daily gun violence. They're slightly more powerful than handguns but much more difficult to transport and to conceal. Good luck trying to stuff an AR15 down your waistband. Rifles are generally also more expensive.

[Iggo]

19. More Dangerous = More Safe

I'm not kidding. That's really how they think.

[Lee-Lee]

23. Statistics say most gun crime is done with handguns

Rifles are much harder to conceal- on a person, in a car, in a home, anywhere else.

A robber is far less likely to carry a rifle that keeps both of their hands full to use:

Most gun crime is gang or drug related- about 80%. Those kinds of criminals want a small easy to conceal weapon and almost always are found with handguns. You can't easily tuck an AR-15 in yor waistband and use it- yes I know there are pictures but the reality is its unwieldy and you can't do it with a magazine in. You can't stash it in your center console or under the seat.

[Hoyt]

29. Good, the ban/restrictions should include semi-auto pistols. Since most gun crime is drug related,

why do you gunners go nuts if you think your right to walk in Chuck E Cheese with a gun or two strapped to your body might be restricted? Glad you've investigated all the possibilities for toting your gunz.

[NaturalHigh]

26. In my case, less safe.

I'm not accurate enough to hit a barn with an AR-15, but I'm pretty good close range with a shotgun. That will take care of a bad guy entering my house.