Why Brexit doesn't mean Trump will win

[edhopper]

First Britain is largely homogeneous and Europe is having a true immigration crisis.
We are a nation of immigrants and have no crisis.
So when Trump decides Brexit tells to go full blown immigration bigot, it will play well in the places that already support him, but it will repel more people than it gains.

[Wellstone ruled]

1. When folks get their Monthly and quarterly

401k and IRA statements in two weeks,listen for the sirens to wail.

[edhopper]

2. And by November

things will be back to normal.

Today is a quick reaction to Brexit, not a long term crash.

[Wellstone ruled]

5. Yes,we should be back.

So many Trillions were lost last night,and that will have a major overhang on every equity do to the lax rules on short covering . The winners are the 1%ers,and this is just another wealth transfer in progress,and the use of these lax rules in making it happen.

Scary part is,this garbage is feeding the Con Man Dons campaign with financial anxiousness.

[patricia92243]

3. Obama will get the blame and thus Hillary :(

[Wellstone ruled]

4. This is all in the Conservative Right wing

game plan. The more information that surfaces this morning,the more we see how this was a total P.R. game and it backfired. And yes,the Business Channels are already dropping dog whistles blaming the LEFT and a the Presidents Policies for this .

[JustAnotherGen]

44. I'm confused

You mean the US Media is blaming the American President for what the citizens of Great Britain voted for?

That's bananas!

[treestar]

7. Well maybe we can convince them

they should not blame anyone other than the British? I mean we aren't totally mindless. Voters are dumb, but they can see what Trump is. If this really causes us upset, we need someone with a brain in the WH.

[Wellstone ruled]

34. This whole thing happened as a result of

Right Wing Austerity. This a model of what happens when you off-shore all of your basic Industries and replace it with nothing but hollow regressive policies.

[yellowcanine]

24. People should not be basing investment strategies on monthly

or quarterly statements. If they are they need to get a new strategy.

[Wellstone ruled]

37. True,

many are trapped in a select few funds sponsored by their Employers,and in that lies the rub. Those with IRA's have options,if your self directed and have common sense,one will win in the end. What smarts is we now live in a 24/7 inter connected Market,and rules are in favor of the Biggee's and everyone else is their piggy .

[treestar]

6. Yes for all the xenophobia we still are more used, long term

to taking in immigrants and are descended from same ourselves. Europe is where we came from, so we don't have the same type of fear they have of immigrants. Europe was a place people left and only recently a place that attracted immigrants.

[edhopper]

9. Also

Syria and Afghanistan has brought a true immigration crisis.
It is a bad situation for all, tragic for the immigrants and hard for the countries taking them in.

We do not have that situation here.

[closeupready]

8. "homogenous" ...? Setting aside all the muslims, Indians, Africans, arabs?

uh, ok, lol.

[edhopper]

10. pretty much

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[closeupready]

12. Not much different than the US:

And considering African Americans are as American as apple pie, and that Hispanic people were here prior to white people, I think you've completely missed the mark.

[edhopper]

15. You don't see a difference between

87% white and 62%? A number that is getting lower each year?
(it will be in the upper 50% in the next decade)

You do know what homogeneous means? Or do you think 30% of voters being Black or Hispanic has the same impact as 2% Indian?

[uponit7771]

20. +1...Also I reread the posters response, what do you think the poster means by

... "American"?!

I'm thinking euro cultured but my xenophobe sensors are a little pegged today...

tia

[closeupready]

21. African Americans are even MORE American than many whose ancestors

came in big waves in the late 19th/early 20th Century. You do know what homogenous means, you imply, so what else to say.

[edhopper]

25. So you think

Black voters are lining up behind Trump and his anti-immigration rhetoric?

You think Black voters and white voters should be lumped together in the demographics?

Look you made a comment about Britain NOT be homogeneous, you were wrong, you said America was the same, you were wrong.

Keep posting, but you were simply wrong.

[uponit7771]

16. Ummmmm... no, EACH of US cultures are different...NONE of them are EURO centered regardless of what

... is shown on TV or workplace

[snooper2]

26. pretty damn different, you good with pie charts?

[closeupready]

30. Have a great day!

[uponit7771]

27. "considering African Americans are as American as apple pie"... what does this mean in the context o

... of your answer?

thx in advance

[closeupready]

29. Done here. Have a great day!

[uponit7771]

32. Please don't leave, I'm just trying to see what you see... my perspective could be wrong or..

... I could be just as full of shit as the next person.

Let us know what you think and if its off we'll tell yah.... that's the good thing about DU

[closeupready]

35. Okay, I think the threadstarter is trying to suggest that

the fact that an arbitrary racial category known as 'white' people in the UK exists as a supermajority, and that the same rough racial category in the US is a simple majority ... that this contrast utterly destroys the notion that populism is ascendant globally, or even that 'as the UK goes, so goes its allies'. (White Americans and African Americans have a troubled history, but both are fundamentally part of the fabric of our American society, TOGETHER.)

Well, I think that's nonsense. If you are familiar with the history of political movements, you know that yes, countries do tend to move in the same directions politically, and particularly when looking at countries that have strong, long-term alliances.

In short, Establishment candidates and ideas are in trouble politically.

[uponit7771]

11. its 87% white

[closeupready]

13. See my comment above.

[edhopper]

17. You are simply wrong

sorry, but you are.

In this country no one wins with just a majority of the white vote, McCain didn't, Romney didn't and Trump won't.

[closeupready]

19. Wrong because I'm wrong...? Got it, lol.

And you're right because ... you just are...?

[edhopper]

22. Because the facts are

Britain is largely homogeneous with a 87% white population.

We are not.

You can say we are the same, but a 25% difference in the white population says different.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own facts.

[closeupready]

23. Have a great day.

[uponit7771]

18. Replied, none of the US non white cultures are EURO centered... I don't fly the Irish flag in my...

... house my ethnic ID is AA centered and that's American.

[Demonaut]

14. the opposite will happen, some britons are already regretting their vote

[7wo7rees]

28. Right, got it. No crisis here, no, not one bit. Ours is controlled

and contained!!

[edhopper]

31. We have an immagration issue here

which needs attention.

But not a crisis like in Europe, not by any stretch.

There are many problems here that are not crisis,

[7wo7rees]

33. Like I said, contained and controlled.

Where do you live? A border state?

[edhopper]

36. So any problem

is no different in any degree to a full blown crisis?


And what we don't call a crisis means we are saying it is not a problem in any way shape, or form and completely under control?


Got it.

[7wo7rees]

40. Living in a border state, it is a crisis for those unfortunate to be detained.

ABSOLUTELY, IT IS A CRISIS HERE! Don't deceive yourself.

[edhopper]

41. It is a problem for our country

and a personal crisis for those detained.

But their is no parallel with the crisis in Europe, which is my point.


I don't see the majority of Americans reacting to Trumps anti-immigration talk.

Do you somehow see me as saying something anti-immigration reform?

[7wo7rees]

45. To say there is no parallel is too deceive yourself and others.

The only reason there is no parallel is because it/"the problem" is being so under reported. No one knows. Nothing to see, move along.

I do not see you saying anything re immigration reform.

[edhopper]

46. My point is about it being an election issue for Trump

It's not here.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. Good analysis.

[edhopper]

42. Thanks

[dembotoz]

39. it becomes the same if folks think and vote like it is the same

last night showed a disconnect between reality and perception in england

same could happen here....already is....
i live north of milwaukee and local small town folks here and further north are convinced the black thugs from milwaukee are on the way to steal their stuff and rape their women and pets....and they are arming themselves to the teeth.

the area where i live is gonna be voting for trump in a big way.

they just are

[edhopper]

43. It could

and there are those who will.

I just don't see the majority deciding too.