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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:42 PM Jun 2016

CA voters will vote in November on whether purchasing ammunition should require a background check.

Gavin Newsom gun control initiative qualifies for November ballot

Measure would require background checks for ammunition, ban large-capacity magazines

Supporters aim to curtail gun violence

Law enforcement, gun rights groups argue it would only restrict law-abiding citizens



BY ALEXEI KOSEFF
akoseff@sacbee.com
California voters will weigh in this November on a measure intended to curtail gun violence by requiring background checks for ammunition purchases and banning the possession of magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds.

The Secretary of State’s Office announced Thursday that proponents, including Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, had submitted enough valid signatures to qualify their initiative for the ballot.

“Enough massacres, death, tears, and hate – it’s time to take action and save lives,” Newsom said in a statement. “The Safety for All initiative gives California voters the opportunity to keep guns and ammo out of the hands of violent, dangerous, hateful people.”

The proposal would also license ammunition sellers, mandate the reporting of lost or stolen guns, establish a process for recovering firearms from people prohibited from owning them because of their criminal records, and compel state authorities to notify the federal government when someone is added to that prohibited persons database.




Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article85640772.html#storylink=cpy


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CA voters will vote in November on whether purchasing ammunition should require a background check. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2016 OP
Again, CA leads the country in safety scscholar Jun 2016 #1
How is Califonia leading on this when other states already have this? NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #16
Oh good lord. Press Virginia Jun 2016 #2
Then why not just buy them at the same time you buy the gun? scscholar Jun 2016 #3
The firearm gets bought once. The ammo many times. Waldorf Jun 2016 #4
I buy ammo constantly hack89 Jun 2016 #7
Because I don't buy all the bullets I'll ever use Press Virginia Jun 2016 #8
I wonder if this will cover marybourg Jun 2016 #5
It should. mwrguy Jun 2016 #10
Good! nt. marybourg Jun 2016 #12
... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #14
Does CA use the NIC's or does it have it's own system for background checks? Heeeeers Johnny Jun 2016 #6
I'll bet they end up using some sort of ID card Press Virginia Jun 2016 #9
Anyone who can halt the gun violence can come up a better idea let them come forth. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #11
... Crepuscular Jun 2016 #15
Not what I said, anyone who can come up with an idea to stop the gun violence Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #19
I wonder. Is ammo a constitutional right? LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #13
Yes, much like printer's ink.. X_Digger Jun 2016 #18
Ho hum. Check away. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #17
Heh, maybe it should work like drug needle exchange programs. hunter Jun 2016 #20
 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
1. Again, CA leads the country in safety
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jun 2016

It's good to see that those Republicans weren't able to block the will of the people from getting this put on the ballot.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
3. Then why not just buy them at the same time you buy the gun?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:52 PM
Jun 2016

That would be more efficient anyway since the background checks could be combined.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
8. Because I don't buy all the bullets I'll ever use
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jun 2016

when I buy a gun.

Depending on the time of day and day of the week, I've had to wait at least an hour for a background check on a firearm.
Ammunition purchases are far more frequent. I tend to buy ammo when I go to the range since I only have hollow points at home.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
5. I wonder if this will cover
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jun 2016

hand-loading equipment and supplies. It not all that difficult to produce your own bullets by hand loading them.

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
14. ...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:01 PM
Jun 2016

Rolling your own is the way to go. It's much cheaper if you go though substantial amounts of ammo, you end up with a better quality product if you know what you are doing and you don't have to worry about running out of a specific caliber if you forgot to go to the store before a trip to the range.

Heeeeers Johnny

(423 posts)
6. Does CA use the NIC's or does it have it's own system for background checks?
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jun 2016

If it's the former, how do they expect the FBI/NIC's to legally comply and/or handle the overload?

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
9. I'll bet they end up using some sort of ID card
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jun 2016

Because they are going to cause quite a back log with this plan

Crepuscular

(1,057 posts)
15. ...
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jun 2016

your comment presumes that this idea will halt gun violence, despite there being no evidence to support such a claim.

Anybody who thinks that ammunition will not be amply available on the black market, should such a restriction be put in place, needs only to look at how successful prohibition and the war on drugs has been, in terms of preventing criminals from acquiring banned substances.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. Not what I said, anyone who can come up with an idea to stop the gun violence
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jun 2016

Needs to present the idea, I'm open to ideas.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
18. Yes, much like printer's ink..
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:43 PM
Jun 2016

Andrews v. State, 1871

The right to keep arms, necessarily involves the right to
purchase them, to keep them in a state of efficiency for use, and
to purchase and provide ammunition suitable for such arms, and to
keep them in repair.

hunter

(38,310 posts)
20. Heh, maybe it should work like drug needle exchange programs.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jun 2016

You have to return the shell casing and the used metal bullet in a one-for-one exchange.

If you can't find the used metal bullet, then tough. Only non-toxic plastic bullets for you.




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