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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:35 AM Jun 2016

Hallelujah! Dr. James Dobson says Donald Trump has accepted Christ, is a "baby Christian"

Donald Trump, according to a new report, has accepted Jesus as his Lord and Savior.

No, you didn't accidentally click on The Onion. That's a factual statement, according to a well-respected evangelical faith leader.

Dr. James Dobson, who was among the more than 900 evangelical faith leaders who met with the Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting in New York City, says it happened fairly recently. He also said he knew who led the businessman to Christ.

"I don't know when it was, but it has not been long," Dobson told Godfactor's Michael Anthony in an exclusive interview. "I believe he really made a commitment, but he's a baby Christian. We all need to be praying for him, especially if there's a possibility of him being our next chief executive officer."


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http://www.charismanews.com/politics/elections/58042-dr-james-dobson-donald-trump-has-accepted-christ

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Hallelujah! Dr. James Dobson says Donald Trump has accepted Christ, is a "baby Christian" (Original Post) cali Jun 2016 OP
The two Corinthians I know.... slingsam Jun 2016 #1
DUzy! dgibby Jun 2016 #28
LOL can they be any more transparent? MH1 Jun 2016 #2
Evangelicals are notorious gullible dupes. Think of all the slimeball cali Jun 2016 #4
He must have Cryptoad Jun 2016 #21
Jesus wept. nt redwitch Jun 2016 #3
Somewhere Jesus is wearing an "I'm *NOT* With Stupid" t-shirt. Initech Jun 2016 #61
I was thinking of making "We're with Stupid" yard signs. redwitch Jun 2016 #64
"Well-respected?" Archae Jun 2016 #5
Respect? Scarsdale Jun 2016 #12
That's his schtick Zorro Jun 2016 #23
It is the height of cognitive dissonance how the right wing views Reagan and GWB tanyev Jun 2016 #6
I've long asked... charin Jun 2016 #14
politically expedient spanone Jun 2016 #7
two grifters grifting... Javaman Jun 2016 #8
Writing for The Onion these days must be the worst job in the world. Jerry442 Jun 2016 #9
Con Man Dob endorses Con Man Don JHB Jun 2016 #10
Yes, I would believe Trump accepted the faith of Dobson.. mountain grammy Jun 2016 #11
Uh huh. merrily Jun 2016 #13
4 out of 5 Diests do NOT recommend this underpants Jun 2016 #15
The Evangelical gang sulphurdunn Jun 2016 #16
baby Christian moosewhisperer Jun 2016 #17
What the hell is a "baby Christian?" (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #51
The voted in plurality for him before this announcement so it doesn't matter, they could care uponit7771 Jun 2016 #18
especially his hands eShirl Jun 2016 #19
When Trump,,, Cryptoad Jun 2016 #20
At least Mr. Trump should release his tax returns PJMcK Jun 2016 #52
It's A Miracle I tells Ya rurallib Jun 2016 #22
This the same James Dobson that said adult men should shower with their teenage sons Feeling the Bern Jun 2016 #24
Baby Christian rpannier Jun 2016 #25
Actually, I don't believe you'll find the word "Christian" in the Bible (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #54
Poorly written on my part rpannier Jun 2016 #56
Our points are the same, rpannier PJMcK Jun 2016 #60
He'd turn the White House into the playboy mansion after painting TRUMP on it. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #26
What a crock! dgibby Jun 2016 #27
oh please spare me heaven05 Jun 2016 #29
He's been a self-proclaimed... czarjak Jun 2016 #30
Excellent!! Now Trump can run Third Party as the 'BABY-CHRISTIAN-NAZI PARTY'!!! nt vkkv Jun 2016 #31
They done cleaned him up goooood! Did that include baptism in the horse watering tank? Frustratedlady Jun 2016 #32
I never considered Shrub to be a committed Christian as it was a substitute for drinking; however, no_hypocrisy Jun 2016 #33
James Dobson proves, once again. that he is an idiot. CanonRay Jun 2016 #34
I refuse to believe it until I see Trump's original baptismal certificate, the long form... Purrfessor Jun 2016 #35
I love this! Justice Jun 2016 #40
Birds of a feather con together... Moostache Jun 2016 #36
Himself Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #37
Well, Dobson is half right meow2u3 Jun 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author Zambero Jun 2016 #39
Recalling Jimmy Swaggart Zambero Jun 2016 #41
He is the Cheeto Jesus Android3.14 Jun 2016 #42
And they genuflect to their Cheeto Jesus. cali Jun 2016 #45
And armed with a copy of Two Corinthians. Initech Jun 2016 #58
Well how CONvenient... Blue Owl Jun 2016 #43
That explains the small hands Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #44
Isn't That Special! Dirty Socialist Jun 2016 #46
"...he's a baby Christian." 3catwoman3 Jun 2016 #47
Jesus Christ struggle4progress Jun 2016 #48
Meaning Dobson has recently accepted Trump's money. sofa king Jun 2016 #49
or the other way around. cali Jun 2016 #53
Or maybe they both gave each other money... sofa king Jun 2016 #67
Snake oil salesmen malaise Jun 2016 #50
LOL! Who's conning whom? tanyev Jun 2016 #55
Dobson is a child psychologist. That's a fact. xfundy Jun 2016 #57
Well he's the best Christian, don't you know? Initech Jun 2016 #59
so you can still be a total dick and be a Christian RussBLib Jun 2016 #62
Most of the Christians I know don't have much in the way Tsiyu Jun 2016 #63
xtian enid602 Jun 2016 #65
it wasn't that long ago that trump said he'd never asked God Ilsa Jun 2016 #66
Jesus doesn't support water boarding. roamer65 Jun 2016 #68

MH1

(17,651 posts)
2. LOL can they be any more transparent?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:50 AM
Jun 2016

I have to ask some Dobson-followers I know, whether they believe this and will now support Trump. They didn't like him previously, but who knows, maybe this transparent ploy will work. People who follow Dobson haven't seen through THAT sham yet.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
4. Evangelicals are notorious gullible dupes. Think of all the slimeball
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:05 AM
Jun 2016

TV preachers who have lined their pockets from them.

redwitch

(14,956 posts)
64. I was thinking of making "We're with Stupid" yard signs.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jun 2016

To add to the front lawns of people sporting Trump signs.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Respect?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:41 AM
Jun 2016

Yes, let's give him as much respect as Dobson and other religious fools have given President Obama all these years. Someone should tell these Christians that tRump is not nearly as wealthy as he claims. No $$$, no supprt from the holier than thou crowd.

Zorro

(15,761 posts)
23. That's his schtick
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jun 2016

Dobson's not a spare the rod type of guy; it's one of the things that motivates his "ministry" -- corporal punishment to maintain discipline. He's built his empire around it.

He focused on this Old Testament method while on the staff at USC (he's a psychology PhD) and witnessed campus protests against the Viet Nam War. All those young'uns weren't spanked when growing up, and that's what led to their disrespect for authority.

tanyev

(42,706 posts)
6. It is the height of cognitive dissonance how the right wing views Reagan and GWB
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jun 2016

as God's chosen ones when they rarely ever graced the doors of a church with their presence during their White House years. On the other hand, I believe the Carters and the Clintons remained very active in their respective churches even while they were in the White House.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
9. Writing for The Onion these days must be the worst job in the world.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jun 2016

Constantly struggling to write satire that's more absurd than actual reality.

mountain grammy

(26,684 posts)
11. Yes, I would believe Trump accepted the faith of Dobson..
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:39 AM
Jun 2016

faithful to paranoia, prejudice, and greed, praise the lord and pass the ammo for my AR15.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
16. The Evangelical gang
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 08:59 AM
Jun 2016

is hoping the Donald will shower them with manna from the federal treasury like GW Bush did as payback for their campaign support.

uponit7771

(90,378 posts)
18. The voted in plurality for him before this announcement so it doesn't matter, they could care
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:03 AM
Jun 2016

... less who they vote for as long as its a reThug no matter how much of a horrible character he is.

tRump is loathesome, baby Christian and baby mentality

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
20. When Trump,,,
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jun 2016

gives all his wealth to the Poor without self recognition, i'll believe that line of bull shit

PJMcK

(22,092 posts)
52. At least Mr. Trump should release his tax returns
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:27 AM
Jun 2016

Then we'll know exactly how generous he is to the poor and the needy.

rurallib

(62,498 posts)
22. It's A Miracle I tells Ya
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:21 AM
Jun 2016

Donny gets religion just a the very moment he needs the religious to back him.
Jesus does work in mysterious ways his wonders to perform!

See - Donny was out there adrift and available to any supreme being. Did Thor grab him? Zeus? Mithras? Krishna? no, no, no and no. Just Jesus! think what a coup it would have been for Allah to get the Donald, but Jesus won!

It's a miracle I tells ya!

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
24. This the same James Dobson that said adult men should shower with their teenage sons
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:32 AM
Jun 2016

to show them who the man is?

That James Dobson? Fuck him and fuck Freaks of the Family.

rpannier

(24,354 posts)
25. Baby Christian
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:35 AM
Jun 2016

I missed that part in the Bible.
Though, given the bullying and tantrums by Il Douche, 'Baby' isn't that much of a stretch. Christian... that is

rpannier

(24,354 posts)
56. Poorly written on my part
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:17 AM
Jun 2016

Christian... that is
was a reference to it being a bit of a stretch
Trump isn't much of Christian (if you use being Christ-like as your definition. Torquemada as your definition of Christian then he's close)

PJMcK

(22,092 posts)
60. Our points are the same, rpannier
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jun 2016

We're on the same side here as I was riffing on your "Baby Christian" comment. I think we can agree that Donald Trump has conveniently found religion at an opportune time. It's interesting to me that Mr. Trump has attended church for decades but is only now finding Jesus. And he's claimed that the Bible is the only book ever written that is greater than his own book, "The Art of the Deal."

I'm always struck by how many "Christians" really don't know anything about the Bible but they'll swear that it's the inerrant word of god. The point of my response to your post was that most Evangelical Christians today have such a skewed understanding of the Bible, especially the New Testament, that it's contemporary interpretation would be incomprehensible to the original authors. At the end of Jesus' life, there were no "Christians" per se and it would be centuries before the church would begin to organize. It would be later still that the writings that became the Bible would be edited and organized.

I've heard various leaders and politicians quote the Bible out of context which often changes the meaning of the passage, often reversing the point being made. That technique will work well for Donald Trump. (sarcasm)

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
27. What a crock!
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016

If, as Trump has long stated, he truly is a Presbyterian, then this is a total lie.Speaking as a lifelong Presbyterian, it is impossible to be a member of the church without a public profession of faith and belief in Christ as the Son of God. Having said that, I can't imagine why he hasn't been excommunicated, but that's another story.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
29. oh please spare me
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jun 2016

the religious bullshit about a clown who would get on his knees to fool trumpchumps and get his way. Such religious bullshit. Go ahead christians, vote for this fool. Shame on you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
32. They done cleaned him up goooood! Did that include baptism in the horse watering tank?
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jun 2016

The Donald could have used a good soaking. He's certainly soaked his share of people. Dobson should feel right at home around Donald, the Liar. He's also lined his pockets with money from the masses.

What does Donald have to do to step up from Baby Christian? How long does it take to graduate?

no_hypocrisy

(46,355 posts)
33. I never considered Shrub to be a committed Christian as it was a substitute for drinking; however,
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:01 AM
Jun 2016

I would give him more credit for his faith than Trump any day of the week.

Purrfessor

(1,188 posts)
35. I refuse to believe it until I see Trump's original baptismal certificate, the long form...
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

not the short form.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
36. Birds of a feather con together...
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

The two most dishonest things in the world?
A Trump statement and a Dobson endorsement.

People like Dobson are one of the reasons I loathe Christians of every stripe...to share ANY beliefs with such a huge piece of human shit is a disqualifier in my eyes...

Response to cali (Original post)

Zambero

(8,985 posts)
41. Recalling Jimmy Swaggart
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jun 2016

Contrite and repentant, not once but twice. Still raking in bucks from fools, and proof positive that televangelists do more than lay people.

xfundy

(5,105 posts)
57. Dobson is a child psychologist. That's a fact.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jun 2016

He's not a preacher, but wants everyone to think he is.

He's trying to gain power for himself, yet again.

Initech

(100,165 posts)
59. Well he's the best Christian, don't you know?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jun 2016

He reads the best Bible, he quotes the best verses in Two Corinthians, he worships the best God, and he's going to recruit the best Christians for God's army. It's gonna be huge!

Tsiyu

(18,186 posts)
63. Most of the Christians I know don't have much in the way
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jun 2016

of an intellectual or analytical mindset, bless their little hearts.

Cretins like Dobson feed off of the dear Christian's ignorance and the Christian's abject terror over criticizing anyone who mutters the word "Jesus."

Our Christian governor, for example, is worth 3 billion dollars. yet nary a Christian in this state asks themselves why Bill Haslam doesn't want poor people to earn a living wage, have access to health care or have any teeth left in their faces.

But he's a GOOD CHRISSCHUNN!

I feel sorry for Christians until I remember that they vote to let us all get fucked in the ass over and over and over (as much as they claim to hate sodomy) because they will elect the most corrupt, greedy, evil fuckers in the states as long as those evil fuckers say the magic word:

JESUS.


You don't really have to believe in the guy, live the way the bible advises or even be a decent person in any way, as long as you say Jesus the allotted number of times in your campaign ad.

Yeah, so Dobson's the clever one because he fucking knows how gullible and naive the Christian truly is. It's sad, but also infuriating.

enid602

(8,681 posts)
65. xtian
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

Does this mean that Donald's newly found Christianity will compel him to compensate all the people he's screwed over the years?

Ilsa

(61,721 posts)
66. it wasn't that long ago that trump said he'd never asked God
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jun 2016

for forgiveness of his sins. I doubt he had time to be humble enough before the Lord to do that during the campaign.

IOW, I suspect Dobson is lying through his teeth.

roamer65

(36,748 posts)
68. Jesus doesn't support water boarding.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 12:35 AM
Jun 2016

You cannot call yourself a Christian and support torture. If you support torture, you are not a follower of Christ. Simple as that.

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