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marmar

(77,067 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:06 PM Jun 2016

Interesting piece by a Cambridge professor on the divide between London and the rest of the UK


from Dissent magazine:


Britain’s EU Problem is a London Problem
Peter Mandler ▪ June 24, 2016


Yesterday the UK voted to leave the European Union after thirty years of a halting, sometimes noble, often messy experiment in international cooperation. In my circles—professional, well-educated, Cambridge and London—the principal reaction was incredulity. How could this happen? Who could want this? A natural reaction. In my electoral district, 75 percent voted to Remain. In the hip parts of London where my daughter lives, a similar result. But a look at the electoral map showed (inevitably, given that a substantial majority of England—though only a narrow majority of the UK—voted to Leave) that huge swathes of England outside of London voted by similar proportions to Leave—the poorer areas on the East and South coasts, depressed former industrial districts in the North, though also more prosperous parts of the West Country and the Midlands.

In shorthand, Britain’s EU problem is a London problem. London, a young, thriving, creative, cosmopolitan city, seems the model multicultural community, a great European capital. But it is also the home of all of Britain’s elites—the economic elites of “the City” (London’s Wall Street, international rather than European), a nearly hereditary professional caste of lawyers, journalists, publicists, and intellectuals, an increasingly hereditary caste of politicians, tight coteries of cultural movers-and-shakers richly sponsored by multinational corporations. It’s as if Hollywood, Wall Street, the Beltway, and the hipper neighborhoods of New York and San Francisco had all been mashed together. This has proved to be a toxic combination.

For the rest of the country has felt more and more excluded, not only from participation in the creativity and prosperity of London, but more crucially from power. That gap had begun to yawn dangerously in Thatcher’s 1980s, when deindustrialization in the North and the finance and property boom in the South East meant that growing inequality acquired a grave geographical component. London was not the sole beneficiary. There are pockets of London-like entitlement scattered all over the country—in university towns like Brighton, Cambridge, and Bristol, in select neighbourhoods of Manchester and Leeds. But the big money—and all those elites—remained firmly in London. In recent decades it has felt as if the whole country had been turned upside down and shaken, until most of the wealth and talent had pooled in the capital. One of the most striking features of this period has been the turnaround in London’s educational performance; in the 1990s, it had among the worst educational outcomes in Britain, today it has the best. Some of this is owing to immigration—striving immigrant groups are helping London’s schools to thrive. But some of it is owing to a different kind of migration—talented and ambitious young people from all over the country thronging to London to teach. London’s gain is the rest of the country’s loss.

.....(snip).....

Where was the Labour party in all this? To many people Tony Blair’s New Labour party looked indistinguishable from the rest of the metropolitan elite. A lot of its leaders were professional politicians parachuted into Northern working-class heartland seats. Tony Blair himself represented a former coal-mining community, Sedgefield. His henchman Peter Mandelson represented nearby Hartlepool, a former shipbuilding centre. His successor Ed Miliband represented Doncaster North, at the heart of the Northern coal and steel belt. All went to Oxford, all have spent their entire adult lives in politics, all live in London—wherever their “main home” was nominally located. Recently Labour tried to break with this legacy. Last year it elected a rank outsider, Jeremy Corbyn, as its leader, on a wave of anti-elitist revulsion. Corbyn stood for “Old Labour,” a politics of class and welfare and redistribution. Or did he? Corbyn too is a Londoner, representing a deeply bohemian inner London suburb, Islington North; he was my MP for ten years. He too has spent his lifetime in politics—not in think tanks or PR outfits, but in a range of London-centered “movement” groups, for nuclear disarmament, Irish republicanism, Palestinian liberation. He came to power on a wave of youth and student enthusiasm. Undoubtedly he does represent young, creative, multicultural London. But from Sedgefield, Hartlepool, and Doncaster that London doesn’t look all that different from the London of fat-cat bankers and thieving politicians. .................(more)

https://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/britains-eu-problem-london-problem




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Interesting piece by a Cambridge professor on the divide between London and the rest of the UK (Original Post) marmar Jun 2016 OP
"Tony Blair's Labour Party looked indistinguishable from the Metropolitan Elite" Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #1
Don't forget that Blair was an unapologetic supporter of the Iraq war lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #2
sounds like the Inside The Beltway Bubble here. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #3
Yep marmar Jun 2016 #4
Alternatives? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #5

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
1. "Tony Blair's Labour Party looked indistinguishable from the Metropolitan Elite"
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jun 2016

THAT is EXACTLY how many of us feel about the 3rd Way Democratic Centerists! When you say single Payer healthcare is not possible and that we support trade deals like NAFTA and Trans-Pacific, how is that different from the GOP?

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
2. Don't forget that Blair was an unapologetic supporter of the Iraq war
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 12:46 PM
Jun 2016

even though the British knew that the claims of Weapons of Mass Destruction claim was false.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
5. Alternatives?
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:08 AM
Jun 2016

Interesting and has similarities here. But how do you change to Representatives with no familial history in politics/governance? Should we require x number of Electricians, Y number of Welders etc. to be sure we have a mix of people who are not full time politicians?

I suspect we would find the same problems and perhaps the same concerns in the electorate of ancient Greece.

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