3 reasons that may have tipped balance against Remain: young people don't vote, bad weather (london)

and people who want to change things tend to be more passionate and motivated to act.

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3 reasons that may have tipped balance against Remain: young people don't vote, bad weather (london) (Original post)	hill2016	Jun 2016	OP
Add to that President Obama standing on British soil and threatening to send them to the	cherokeeprogressive	Jun 2016	#1
Not one of his finer moments n/t	SickOfTheOnePct	Jun 2016	#3
Turnout in London was 73%	SickOfTheOnePct	Jun 2016	#2
read this article	hill2016	Jun 2016	#5
It would have made little difference	muriel_volestrangler	Jun 2016	#6
I'm going with: Utter disgust and dismay with the Ruling Class. PEOPLE HAVE HAD IT.	WinkyDink	Jun 2016	#4

Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:22 PM

cherokeeprogressive (24,853 posts)

1. Add to that President Obama standing on British soil and threatening to send them to the

"back of the queue" for trade agreements if they voted to leave.

Not good form threatening a country you're visiting.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:23 PM

SickOfTheOnePct (5,717 posts)

3. Not one of his finer moments n/t

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:22 PM

SickOfTheOnePct (5,717 posts)

2. Turnout in London was 73%

I don't think that's a valid excuse.

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Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:25 PM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

5. read this article

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/how-did-turnout-affect-the-eu-referendum-result/

As for London, there were fears that the heavy rain could have damaged turnout in the pro-Remain area. Several polling stations were forced to move because of flash floods. London indeed did have a lower than average turnout.

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Response to hill2016 (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 05:06 PM

muriel_volestrangler (97,923 posts)

6. It would have made little difference

Figures here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum,_2016

London turnout 69.7%, compared to average 72.2%, so 2.5% lower. It voted roughly 60/40, so if there was a higher turnout, 1 in 5 votes would cut the Leave lead. So that's 0.5% of the London electorate, or 0.5*(2,263,51+1,513,232)/69.7=27,000, roughly. Compared with a Leave country-wide lead of 1.27 million, it's not significant. Even if London could have been a high turnout area, and the loss was twice as much, it's about 55,000 in 1,270,000.

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Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Sat Jun 25, 2016, 02:24 PM

WinkyDink (51,311 posts)

4. I'm going with: Utter disgust and dismay with the Ruling Class. PEOPLE HAVE HAD IT.

Being ruled by one's countrymen is one thing; being dictated to, down to the shapes and sizes of vegetables allowed to be sold in markets, by Brussels is quite another.

NO AMERICAN WOULD STAND FOR IT.

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