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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShandris
(3,447 posts)...that there is no way you can ever, in any way, shape, or form, threaten them is exactly the best way to protect your Social Security and your Medicare. Just ask Venezuela.
I find it interesting that the best propaganda/meme angle that could be come up with was "I was worried about losing this right for a long time, now I'm afraid I'm going to lose a different one so WHY NOT LOSE BOTH!" It's kind of amusing, actually, primarily because I notice so few actually see that message sticking out at them.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Response to Electric Monk (Reply #5)
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(13,869 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)There, I've apologized. Now we can be friends again.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)...whatever floats your boat, my very good friend.
FWIW, the pictures are getting funnier, so at least it's not a total wash.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Shandris
(3,447 posts)This encapsulates so much better than those other ones (although the alligator, as I mentioned, was pretty good too). The message is a bit harder to untangle and twist. A counter requires a bit of thought, which will eliminate most opponents.
As for the post you linked (good lord you have a lot of pictures!), I don't like most of those as well as this one (Note: So far I have only looked at the SINGULAR post you linked, not the others, so that statement is likely to be altered over time). Too many easily shredded messages (or outright chicanery in some of them, like the 'Fetishization' one. I mean seriously. "...by convincing them that power equals the ability to kill". Hello? It does. Take away the government's ability to kill and see who all is following a law tomorrow morning. ALL temporal power is violence, either directly or at the end of a causative indirect chain. That's why it's so laughable that people think they can 'gain' 'power'. No, you just gain the ability to do violence. Good for you.) for most of them. I don't see much value in easily-shredded messages, as I normally don't deal with convincing 'masses' type people of anything. I know they do have some value to those who do (via repetition, obviously).
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jtuck004
(15,882 posts)are gonna look like yesterday's used matchsticks.
hunter
(38,310 posts)I doubt their economy has fallen apart for lack of patriots with guns.
The second amendment is bullshit, an ugly relic of the 18th century just as slavery was. It's always been about oppression. Slaves rebelling, workers striking, Indians wont leave? Deputize the fools with guns, call them a militia, call them patriots, and they'll be happy to shoot the oppressed people demanding their human rights.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I was wondering if you've lived through years of hearing your guns would be taken away,and they haven't been yet, then why are you worried that republicans who have been threatening for years to take away social security and Medicare, will ever do it?
If it works for one worry, it works for both.
So it's not that great an argument.
What you might more realistically be worried about is that "some" guns may be taken away, not all. And what we also might be worried about is that some Social Security cuts will happen, not total elimination of it; and Medicare may end up going private (for profit) instead of staying in the hands of the government.
I think the first one is the right thing to do. But the second one would hurt everyone.
It's not an infringement on 2nd amendment rights, as we already have restriction on guns and weapons that civilians are not allowed to buy/own. Adding more to that list may upset a lot of gun people, but it's within the law to do it, and if it will save lives, it should be done, IMHO.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)You don't get to rant about banning and confiscating something, then go "but it didn't even happen! " once you fail.
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Akicita
(1,196 posts)We should only worry about our guns when we are awake.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Seven years ago, I was told Obama was coming to get my guns.
Well, now it's seven years later . . . millions of people who were unemployed back then now have jobs . . . ditto for millions of people who now have health insurance . . . my stock portfolio has doubled in value . . . and I still have my guns. Obama must be a failure.
keithbvadu2
(36,766 posts)after Katrina.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)It was the New Orleans police superintendent that ordered the confiscation of firearms within the city.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_government_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina#Confiscation_of_civilian_firearms
keithbvadu2
(36,766 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)is going to take our guns away .humbug .thanks for posting
hack89
(39,171 posts)That is why I have never felt the need to switch parties.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)maindawg
(1,151 posts)It's what they do, every week it's some new way the sky is falling. People never learn. They yell terrorist ! They yell gangs , illegal immigrants oh my. Scarry non white people will get you. They want rebuild a wall, they don't even know what that means. These are the same folks who elected Ron Reagon.