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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 11:44 PM Jun 2016

A history of violence: Evidence grows that gun violence in America is a product of weak gun laws

Evidence is growing that gun violence in America is a product of weak gun laws
http://www.economist.com/news/business-and-finance/21700596-evidence-growing-gun-violence-america-product-weak-gun-laws-guns?frsc=dg%7Cc

"WITH awful, numbing regularity Americans use high-powered, high-capacity firearms to carry out mass shootings. And with awful regularity, efforts to reform America’s gun laws in the wake of such tragedies fail. (Indeed, a recent paper published by the Harvard Business School found that a mass shooting leads to a 75% rise in measures easing gun control in states with Republican-controlled legislatures.) More than 30,000 people die in shootings in America each year; no other rich country suffers anywhere near that level of gun violence.

Opponents of gun control argue that such figures have things backwards. In their view, widespread gun ownership deters crime, and thus benefits society. Advocates of tighter restrictions on gun ownership disagree: they believe the spur to gun crime from the ready availability of weapons far outweighs the deterrent effects. Social scientists have long struggled to adjudicate, since, on the surface at least, the data are ambiguous.

Pro-gun groups point out that rates of gun ownership tend to be highest in rural, sparsely populated states, where crime rates are low. By the same token, over the past two decades, as the number of guns in America has risen sharply, crime rates have fallen. Yet even as the number of guns in America has grown, the share of households with a gun has dropped steadily. Research published in 2000 by Mark Duggan of the University of Chicago concluded that the homicide rate had been falling in tandem with the proportion of households where guns were kept. What’s more, the homicide rate was falling with a lag, suggesting that reduced gun ownership was causing the decline, and was not simply a side-effect of a falling crime rate.

Other studies have reached similar conclusions. An analysis published in 2014, for example, using detailed county-level data assembled by the National Research Council, a government-funded body, suggested that laws that allow people to carry weapons are associated with a substantial rise in the incidence of assaults with a firearm. It also found evidence that such laws might also lead to increases in other crimes, like rape and robbery. A recent survey of 130 studies concluded that strict gun-control laws do indeed reduce deaths caused by firearms.

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Interesting analysis.

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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. Pathetic extreme conservative GOP gun nuts only care about their fetish.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:01 AM
Jun 2016

Their lust for weapons of war kills innocents every day.

Their gun industry lobby the NRA works hard to elect Republicans, who inflict damage to us all far beyond their pathetic phallic symbol's reach.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
2. This could be why the NRA vehemently opposes any data gathering or analysis
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jun 2016

The only statistic the NRA seems interested in is sales.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
3. That makes sense. Somethings are hard to swallow, but they are true nonetheless.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:35 AM
Jun 2016

Fraud becomes rampant because of weak regulation over financial markets. Convicts run our prison system, because criminal gangs decide what goes on inside. Have a liberal gun market, gun violence is widespread. Strange world.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
7. Mass shooting in Germany
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jun 2016

Guy is posting about this shooting in a theater in Germany and is all "hahaha" because Germany has such strict laws and enforces keeping guns in a safe with random inspections and all that, and the shooter got an assault rifle anyway. Proves gun laws don't work.

Or maybe they do. Turns out no one was shot other than the shooter because his "assault rifle" was actually an air gun. The only injuries to the public were from the tear gas fired by police.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
8. It's not that the laws are weak...
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 02:08 AM
Jun 2016

It's that the interpretation of the Constitution is all wrong and that resulted in a cult following that actually believes every citizen should pack heat to take up arms not to DEFEND the government but to overthrow it.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
9. ^^^This!^^^
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 04:13 AM
Jun 2016
"...a cult following that actually believes every citizen should pack heat to take up arms not to DEFEND the government but to overthrow it."
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