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Donald Trump a Born Again Christian? (Original Post) Different Drummer Jun 2016 OP
And I am a born again Dodo bird.. Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #1
And I'm a born again space alien meow2u3 Jun 2016 #25
Me, too. Which galaxy are you from? (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #26
There are no depths of cynicism to which Trump will not go. Hekate Jun 2016 #2
there are no depths the religionists won't stop at to gain temporal power rurallib Jun 2016 #12
No, he's a sudden baptist. nt Xipe Totec Jun 2016 #3
They sure didn't safeinOhio Jun 2016 #11
Oh no you didn't... Hekate Jun 2016 #17
As if he'd allow that beautiful (and EXPENSIVE) hair to be dunked in baptism. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #4
It's only a *suggestion* on his part. For now. n/t UTUSN Jun 2016 #5
A born-again liar. Odin2005 Jun 2016 #6
Not exactly a club with high entry standards. immoderate Jun 2016 #7
drumpf a Born Again Christian? Hayduke Bomgarte Jun 2016 #8
Okay I'm a little confused OldHippieChick Jun 2016 #9
I'm sure the explanation is in Two Corinthians somewhere. GaYellowDawg Jun 2016 #19
I am waiting for any Corinthian to explain it. madinmaryland Jun 2016 #23
There you go, injecting logic and facts into this. phylny Jun 2016 #21
Donald Trump used to go to Marble Collegiate Church PJMcK Jun 2016 #27
Okay I'm a little confused OldHippieChick Jun 2016 #9
You're not confused PJMcK Jun 2016 #28
We have similar histories w/ PCUSA OldHippieChick Jun 2016 #31
I thought he was Jewish..... TheDebbieDee Jun 2016 #13
political expediency.... spanone Jun 2016 #14
He's a con artist in the finest Elmer Gantry tradition. CanonRay Jun 2016 #15
And I am a Druid. yellowcanine Jun 2016 #16
Hell no. roamer65 Jun 2016 #18
Baby born again christian SheriffBob Jun 2016 #20
Then "Born Again Christian" has lost all meaning..... charlyvi Jun 2016 #22
And just in time for the election! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #24
It's an easy crowd of gullible obviously so I don't blame him for going after their vote Person 2713 Jun 2016 #29
Like Elmer Gantry no_hypocrisy Jun 2016 #30

Hekate

(90,678 posts)
2. There are no depths of cynicism to which Trump will not go.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jun 2016

And those evengelicals who enable him publicly should zip it until they examine his works in the world. Maybe compare and contrast Trump's trail of destruction with Hillary's championing of the poor, sick, disenfranchised....

rurallib

(62,414 posts)
12. there are no depths the religionists won't stop at to gain temporal power
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 06:31 PM
Jun 2016

this is a marriage made in he ---- ll and arranged by Satan himself.
Satan knows when two are meant for each other

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
4. As if he'd allow that beautiful (and EXPENSIVE) hair to be dunked in baptism.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jun 2016

Did I mention that the hair is EXPENSIVE? You'd be AMAZED at how expensive it is. But that's ok. You'd be AMAZED at how rich he is.

What did the bible say about this ... it's better to poke a needle in your eye, than to let a camel lick your head and mess up your hair. Something like that.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
9. Okay I'm a little confused
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a Presbyterian. Donald says he's a Presbyterian. We are not "born again" Christians. Not sure if he understands either one. Strike that. He doesn't understand either one.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
21. There you go, injecting logic and facts into this.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:12 AM
Jun 2016


I really dislike anything and everything to do with James Dobson. I also work near Liberty University, and seeing the Falwells and followers contorting themselves to somehow making Trump palatable to their minions makes me dislike them more.

Fellow Presbyterian here, PC-USA

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
27. Donald Trump used to go to Marble Collegiate Church
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jun 2016

In the 1980's, I would occasionally see Mr. Trump with his then-girl friend, Marla Maples, attending this church on Fifth Avenue in NYC. I always thought that was odd since he was famously married to his first wife, Ivanna. Dr. Norman Vincent Peale was still preaching on occasion and it amused me to ponder what he thought of Mr. Trump bringing a date to church services.

Incidentally, Marble Collegiate is Dutch Reformed Church in America and is one of the oldest continuing congregations in the States.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
9. Okay I'm a little confused
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a Presbyterian. Donald says he's a Presbyterian. We are not "born again" Christians. Not sure if he understands either one. Strike that. He doesn't understand either one.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
28. You're not confused
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jun 2016

I've lived in NYC for four decades and have had to witness Donald Trump's tabloid life for most of that time. As a former Presbyterian Clerk of Session, Sunday School teacher, Elder and Deacon, I can say that Donald Trump doesn't understand a thing about Christianity, the Bible or the teachings of Jesus. There has been nothing in his life that has indicated that he's absorbed anything about the faith and philosophy of this religion.

And, in his specific case, the "born again" thing is just dumb. Presbyterians may come in a broad spectrum of perspectives but they are not Evangelicals.

Donald Trump is an idiot. It's not my place- nor anyone else's- to judge what's in a person's heart. But by his actions and words, I can see that Mr. Trump has found religion for the worst of reasons.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
31. We have similar histories w/ PCUSA
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jun 2016

I just finished a 7-year stint as Clerk. Have been an Elder and teacher as well. Deacons - not my thing. And no, The frozen chosen just don't do proselytizing well.

It bothers me that he is giving Presbyterians a bad name. We serve the poor and the homeless and many undocumented persons come to our food pantry. At first they were scared. We told them we were a church, not the gov't. We now serve over 500 families a month on donations and as a part of Community Food Share. Don't think he has a clue about any of that.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
15. He's a con artist in the finest Elmer Gantry tradition.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jun 2016

And Christian zealots have been suckers for this BS forever.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
18. Hell no.
Mon Jun 27, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jun 2016

Real Christians don't build walls to keep people in need out. They invite them in and help them instead.

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