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JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:08 AM Jun 2016

FBI asks agencies who responded to Pulse to deny records requests

I wonder what the reasoning is behind this story?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-fbi-letter-law-enforcement-20160629-story.html



The FBI has asked law enforcement agencies who responded to Pulse nightclub to withhold records from the public, according to officials.

A June 20 letter from the FBI, attached to the City or Orlando's lawsuit over withholding 911 calls and other records from 25 media outlets including the Orlando Sentinel, was also sent to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office with instructions pertaining to how they should respond to records requests.


The letter requests that agencies deny inquiries and directs departments to "immediately notify the FBI of any requests your agency received" so "the FBI can seek to prevent disclosure through appropriate channels, as necessary."

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FBI asks agencies who responded to Pulse to deny records requests (Original Post) JonathanRackham Jun 2016 OP
Maybe because the FBI once tried to recruit him for a fake islamic terror-plot? DetlefK Jun 2016 #1
What? tyne Jun 2016 #2
link DetlefK Jun 2016 #9
Yes. tyne Jun 2016 #15
No shit. Octafish Jun 2016 #16
I'm wondering if the story is being minimized because it was an attack on the LBGT community? JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #3
It was about his religion Press Virginia Jun 2016 #5
Could it be religion or culture? JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #14
I don't know. From what I've read Press Virginia Jun 2016 #17
I know people who are Jewish, Catholic and Muslim. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #18
Thats why I said "his religion" and not Islam Press Virginia Jun 2016 #20
Touche' JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #21
WOO!!!!!!! MohRokTah Jun 2016 #19
Because we might find out who really killed most of those malaise Jun 2016 #4
Who, other than the man who claimed to be the killer, was the killer? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #6
link DetlefK Jun 2016 #10
The possibility of terror connection... imaginable that they don't want people mucking around HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #7
When rumors run wild, more damage is done. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #8
Yes, and I suppose especially so when the rumors are built around fear and loathing HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #11
Guess it depends on the individual. JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #12
Yes, and I think there is concern that a significant component would deal with it poorly. HereSince1628 Jun 2016 #13

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. Maybe because the FBI once tried to recruit him for a fake islamic terror-plot?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:13 AM
Jun 2016

If this indeed was about religion and not about his confused sexuality, wouldn't it be a bit problematic that it was the FBI who tried to nudge him towards terrorism?

tyne

(1,248 posts)
2. What?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jun 2016

I think this is pretty standard. Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATION. Don't you think it's a good idea to give the FBI a few weeks to investigate? No?

And i thought it was the right who where chin-deep in conspiracies.

tyne

(1,248 posts)
15. Yes.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jun 2016

This is common knowledge. And what does it have to do with the FBI requesting the withholding of information while they investigate?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
16. No shit.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jun 2016

Like the time the FBI was interviewing a friend of the Boston bomber and had him in handcuffs and still had to shoot him seven times because he kicked a broom they said.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/16/fbi-todashev-autopsy-boston-marathon-bombing/2522677/

Gosh. I wonder what that obvious danger must have said to get the FBI so angry? I mean scared?

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
3. I'm wondering if the story is being minimized because it was an attack on the LBGT community?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:32 AM
Jun 2016

Religion, sexuality?

Maybe by not over doing it they're looking to avoid copy cat crimes?

The government does strange things.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
5. It was about his religion
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:33 AM
Jun 2016

The FBI, reportedly, found no actual evidence he was gay. They did find his phone calls, to them and the 911 operators, had a lot of admissions and claims that he was doing it in the name of his religion.

You might be on to something about him being nudged.

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
14. Could it be religion or culture?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jun 2016

Could he be hiding behind a religion to mask his personal fears? A justifiable excuse to cast blame and justify the actions?

(As of late I've been pondering the escalation of violence, action/reaction in the world. It comes with my kids graduating and being turned loose into the world.)

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
17. I don't know. From what I've read
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:38 AM
Jun 2016

his father was a supporter of the Taliban's brand of religion.
It's possible that it influenced his son.

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
18. I know people who are Jewish, Catholic and Muslim.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jun 2016

They haven't been to temple, church, mosque in years yet they claim to be of that religion. I call their habits "cultural"; not religious. They cherry pick their religion for the best and avoid the responsibility and religion. Religious symbols and all the holidays...............

In America we do this around Christmas.

So a person can kill in the name of a religion but yet not be religious. People can do the same thing around flags and national pride.

It's scary how peoples minds can become conditioned and demented.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
20. Thats why I said "his religion" and not Islam
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jun 2016

while he may have identified as a Muslim, it doesn't seem he was actually active in his practice.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
6. Who, other than the man who claimed to be the killer, was the killer?
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jun 2016

maybe it was the guy OJ had been looking for?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
7. The possibility of terror connection... imaginable that they don't want people mucking around
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jun 2016

harrassing the innocent and making investigation and surveillance of their "authentic" persons of interest more difficult.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
11. Yes, and I suppose especially so when the rumors are built around fear and loathing
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:42 AM
Jun 2016

Why expose the victims to more of that?

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
12. Guess it depends on the individual.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 08:53 AM
Jun 2016

I'd rather deal with the harsh truth rather then isolate myself from it. It really depends upon how people process the information.

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