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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:03 PM Jul 2016

This story is a sad statement on what Americans have become...

Avon hotel clerk's 911 call about ISIS causes intense police response, patron's collapse

AVON, Ohio - A 911 call alleging that a hotel patron pledged his allegiance to ISIS caused panic at an Avon hotel earlier this week.

On Wednesday just before 6 p.m., the Avon Police Department received a 911 call from the sister of a woman working as a clerk at the Fairfield Inn and Suites on Colorado Avenue.

The caller said her sister told her there was a man in the hotel lobby "in full head dress with multiple disposable phones pledging his allegiance to ISIS."

According to police, she repeated that there was a "suspicious mal at the front desk with disposable phones, two of them, in a full head dress."

While on the phone with the sister, police received a second call from the clerk's father also requesting that officers be sent to the hotel.

Officers arrived minutes later to find an Arabic-speaking man standing outside the front doors of the hotel. He was dressed in a 'thobe' and had a cell phone in his hand.

Officers, with guns drawn, ordered the man to get on the ground and drop the phone. At first he didn't respond but police say he eventually complied and laid down.

Officers placed the man in handcuffs and conducted a search. No weapons were found on his body.

Police spoke to the clerk and found out that the man did not, in fact, make any statements related to ISIS. Officers said at that time it was clear there was a miscommunication.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/oh-lorain/avon-hotel-clerks-911-call-about-isis-causes-intense-police-response-patrons-collapse

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This story is a sad statement on what Americans have become... (Original Post) liberal N proud Jul 2016 OP
Terrified, hysterical, and foolish? guillaumeb Jul 2016 #1
That wasn't a miscommunication. Iggo Jul 2016 #2
Exactly! And they're all of the US! Fucked asshole Bigots!!! Ain't the US great. RKP5637 Jul 2016 #4
He is now in the hospital: tblue37 Jul 2016 #3
Shamed? Shouldn't they be arrested for a false report ? Hope he sues the hotel- their worker Person 2713 Jul 2016 #6
Most of the time "false" means "knowingly false." Igel Jul 2016 #7
The clerk claims that she did not make any statements about ISIS, so it sounds as though her father tblue37 Jul 2016 #12
kalief browder, spent 3 years in jail for nothing, he committed suicide. okieinpain Jul 2016 #15
Yes, that is the case. I read so many of these horrible cases about the way police abuse people, tblue37 Jul 2016 #16
i always post them on facebook because i can go back and search for them okieinpain Jul 2016 #18
I keep a document with cases and links on my computer, but sometimes I don't get a chance to record tblue37 Jul 2016 #19
definitely agree because onethatcares Jul 2016 #8
I read somewhere else he had a stroke now. I will try to find a link. Yes there will be expenses Person 2713 Jul 2016 #9
he is now onethatcares Jul 2016 #14
Someone like that should not be working in the hotel industry ms liberty Jul 2016 #5
jeezus DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #10
Some bizarre paranoia going on here. HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #11
This is what "if you see something suspicious say something" BS results in. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #13
That's what I think also liberal N proud Jul 2016 #21
I'm afraid I wouldn't respond right away either. lpbk2713 Jul 2016 #17
see something say something AntiBank Jul 2016 #20
ugh....the terrorists are winning. spanone Jul 2016 #22

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
2. That wasn't a miscommunication.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

That's exactly the message she wanted to send, and exactly the response she wanted: Guns drawn on a scary brown man.

America! Fuck yeah!

RKP5637

(67,105 posts)
4. Exactly! And they're all of the US! Fucked asshole Bigots!!! Ain't the US great.
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jul 2016

Imagine this place under a Trump regime. This place is getting akin (under Trump) to Germany, pre-WWII. FFS, and Trump would start WWIII.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
3. He is now in the hospital:
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jul 2016
.Officers took the handcuffs off the man and tried to explain the situation. At that time, he collapsed on the ground for unknown reasons.

An ambulance that was already at the scene transported the man to St. John Medical Center where he is know in stable condition.


Maybe he collapsed from stress. I have high BP and some heart issues. Being surrounded by cops with guns drawn, forced to the ground, and cuffed when I had done nothing and nothing was going on to explain their behavior would probably lead me to collapse, too.

I am surprised they didn't just reflexively shoot him when in his confusion he didn't immediately drop his phone.

Those bigots who called the cops should be shamed.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
6. Shamed? Shouldn't they be arrested for a false report ? Hope he sues the hotel- their worker
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

instigated this while working and he was a guest who suffered as a result

Igel

(35,300 posts)
7. Most of the time "false" means "knowingly false."
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jul 2016

In other words, they lie.

Acting in good faith usually mitigates criminal culpability. You might still have to pay expenses for some things, but acting in good faith in making reports is likely acting in good faith during giving testimony in a trial. It's not perjury.

A lot of people, more in the last 15-20 years it seems to me (but my sample isn't random or comprehensive) confuse "not telling the truth" with "lying." I might say with confidence that my wife is resting in the bedroom and be completely in error--she might be upstairs working on some project, meaning that I'm not telling the truth. What do I believe? That my wife is resting. She likes to have Sabbath dinner start at sundown, and near the solstice that pushes the meal and following activities late.

Now, if she knew that what she said was false and wanted others to believe it was true, that's lying. Throw the book at her.


BTW, the word "thobe" does not require quotes when used in its usual meaning. It's like insisting on saying that somebody wore a 'kilt' or "President Obama gave his speech wearing a 'suit'." Makes you wonder.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
12. The clerk claims that she did not make any statements about ISIS, so it sounds as though her father
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jul 2016

and sister did lie knowingly, probably thinking that would get the cops to show up faster. My guess is that in their xenophobic paranoia, they believed the nervous clerk was in real danger from the scary "Ayrab, so they called the cops and said whatever they thought they needed to say to make them hurry to the hotel to "save" the sister/daughter clerk."

I vaguely remember another case in which the caller who claimed his backpack had been stolen by a black teenager (who as it turned out was innocent, of course) deliberately lied about a gun. I don't remember for sure, but I think the kid he accused was either hurt or killed. When asked why he had falsely claimed the kid had a gun, the caller said he just thought it would be a way to make sure the cops came quickly.

Considering how often the often completely innocent (and almost always unarmed) "suspect" ends up badly hurt or dead, you'd think people would hesitate to call the cops when there is no good reason to, and especially refrain from claiming their "suspect" has a gun when they know perfectly well that he does not. Apparently, though, a lot of people feel no compunction about putting another human being at risk of serious injury or death if that other person happens to be "other" in their minds.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
16. Yes, that is the case. I read so many of these horrible cases about the way police abuse people,
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jul 2016

even kids, even those who are innocent, that I have trouble keeping track of them sometimes.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
18. i always post them on facebook because i can go back and search for them
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jul 2016

but it makes family and friends not like my page. lol.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
19. I keep a document with cases and links on my computer, but sometimes I don't get a chance to record
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jul 2016

one because there are so darned many of them that it is hard to keep up when you have other responsibilities in your life.

onethatcares

(16,166 posts)
8. definitely agree because
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 06:41 AM
Jul 2016

in this great country of ours, he's on the hook for the ambulance ride and any time spent in the hospital.

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
5. Someone like that should not be working in the hotel industry
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jul 2016

I did it for 10 years. I loved it and met people from all over the world. The worst guests were upper middle class white people on vacation; they inevitably treated the staff like dirt while expecting to be treated like they were the only guests in the building.

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
10. jeezus
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 09:59 AM
Jul 2016

I hope the callers who instigated all this have to foot the bill for the guy's medical expenses. THIS is what fear mongering creates. This is only the start of it.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
11. Some bizarre paranoia going on here.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 10:37 AM
Jul 2016

The Fairfield is off the highway and pretty innocuous. If a "TERRIST" wanted to make a statement, why would he pick some hotel in a very-western suburb of Cleveland? COME on.

Trivia: Sherrod Brown lives in Avon.

lpbk2713

(42,755 posts)
17. I'm afraid I wouldn't respond right away either.
Sat Jul 2, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jul 2016



I'd be dazed while thinking "are you people fuggen crazy?" .

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