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Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:24 PM

What do you will expect will follow Dallas

Democracy and attempts to heal the racial divide or a militarized police force?

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Reply What do you will expect will follow Dallas (Original post)
malaise Jul 2016 OP
RandySF Jul 2016 #1
gwheezie Jul 2016 #2
Calculating Jul 2016 #3
First Speaker Jul 2016 #4
roamer65 Jul 2016 #5
SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #6
annavictorious Jul 2016 #7
Rex Jul 2016 #8
Lithos Jul 2016 #9
guillaumeb Jul 2016 #10
oberliner Jul 2016 #11
WhiteTara Jul 2016 #12
oberliner Jul 2016 #14
craigmatic Jul 2016 #13

Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:33 PM

1. Obama, often the only adult in the room, will ret to heal.

Trump and the rest of the right wing crowd will seize on this to push back on BLM and justify gratuitous use of force by cops. BLM is back on its heels making clear the fact that they would never support violence against police.

The timing is terrible in one respect. Here in SF, BLM backed out as Pride parade leaders because of the extra police presence following the Orlando shootings.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:35 PM

2. I think it will depend on the election

If enough angry scared people vote, Trump will keep the gop congress and even more state legislatures will be gop and the only safe right we will be left with is rkba. If we remain rational, Hillary and a dem senate will maintain the status quo. I frankly can live with that.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:39 PM

3. Increasingly militarized police force

Officers will be even more jittery around minorities, and use Dallas to demonstrate why they need more military gadgets and firepower. In an ideal world, they'd consider how tensions between civilians and police got this bad. Most of this tension could be alleviated simply by holding more officers accountable when they screw up and shoot unarmed citizens.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:40 PM

4. A lot will happen, some good, some bad...

...I think it probably will be contingent upon events. I personally feel like I'm waiting for the next shoe to drop. If there's more shootings, more bloodshed, maybe an assassination, if the far right Tea Party/Limbaugh assholes continue to stoke racial fires...then nothing good will come of this. Nothing at all. If we're lucky enough to get a respite from the violence, then maybe some dialogue between the police and the minority populations will begin, and we can make *some* progress. I do know this--if White America continues to regard the police as police, and Black America keeps regarding the police as an army of occupation, this country is doomed.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:41 PM

5. More jackbooted fascism. N/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:41 PM

6. DPD is currently on lockdown

Apparently some group out of Houston made a "credible threat", and was plotting to drive up there and do it again. It's on CNN now.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:47 PM

7. I hate to give you the response that was my immediate reaction.

 

"What do I expect will follow Dallas?'

What always follows: lip service and then...nothing.

Crazy people who mass murder strangers because they are representatives of a demographic will continue to be allowed to purchase weapons.





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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:47 PM

8. Police state, that way everyone is 'safe'.

 

Shooting cops never does the civilian population any good, always the opposite. That is why, imo, shooting a cop is the worst thing someone with a cause can do.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:49 PM

9. Nothing

More of the same...

L-

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 07:58 PM

10. Recommended.

I hope for the first but expect the second.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:02 PM

11. Insulting police officers in the days after five innocent ones were gunned down

 

That seems to be the way things are going around here at least.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:36 PM

12. They are victims and at the same time

many in their uniforms, are perpetrators.

I mourn all violent loss of life and say mantras for their safe passage to the next life.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #12)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 09:23 PM

14. They are only victims

 

The people who were killed were innocent people who were killed by a domestic terrorist.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jul 9, 2016, 08:43 PM

13. Police have been militarized since the 80's when they used tanks to knock down walls

 

of residential houses of people suspected of having drugs. Cops are going to be more fearful as will the average white person but sometimes fear is good especially if it leads to empathy for others.

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