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LUV capitalism!!! Study shows hyper-sexualization of women by the media has increased 10 fold...

Study Finds Marked Rise in Intensely Sexualized Images of Women, not Men

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- A study by University at Buffalo sociologists has found that the portrayal of women in the popular media over the last several decades has become increasingly sexualized, even "pornified." The same is not true of the portrayal of men.

After analyzing more than 1,000 images of men and women on Rolling Stone covers over the course of 43 years, the authors came to several conclusions. First, representations of both women and men have indeed become more sexualized over time; and, second, women continue to be more frequently sexualized than men. Their most striking finding, however, was the CHANGE in how intensely sexualized images of women -- but not men -- have become.

In the 1960s they found that 11 percent of men and 44 percent of women on the covers of Rolling Stone were sexualized. In the 2000s, 17 percent of men were sexualized (an increase of 55 percent from the 1960s), and 83 percent of women were sexualized (an increase of 89 percent). Among those images that were sexualized, 2 percent of men and 61 percent of women were hypersexualized. "In the 2000s," Hatton says, "there were 10 TIMES more HYPERSEXUALIZED IMAGES OF WOMEN than men, and 11 TIMES MORE NON-SEXUALIZED IMAGES OF MEN than of women."

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LUV capitalism!!! Study shows hyper-sexualization of women by the media has increased 10 fold... (Original post)	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	OP
Painful and important.	Brickbat	Dec 2011	#1
Quite. It was no surprise to me. One would have to be an idiot to not notice...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#13
Why? No, seriously. Why?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#165
It's sad that some liberals don't believe in pure science research.	Bucky	Dec 2011	#194
Phony statistical quantifications of bs terms like "hypersexualization" AREN'T 'science' at all.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#211
Wow..	sendero	Dec 2011	#254
Did you read the study?	Hissyspit	Dec 2011	#266
You mean the one they're charging 35 bucks to read?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#294
As a sociologist, I'm a little astounded by your claims.	antigone382	Dec 2011	#332
thank you	getdown	Dec 2011	#338
"As it turns out...." Um, I'm not a puppet on the end of your wrist.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#347
I'm not condemning the whole field. As I said downthread, I think sociology is a useful lens through	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#346
Speaking of astounding claims:	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#369
word games	getdown	Dec 2011	#374
It's striking because they made up the criteria and then -surprise- found a 'striking' increse in it	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#380
you claim it's "fucking idiotic"	getdown	Dec 2011	#385
I already found out	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#399
The Kardashians also did their part	Kingofalldems	Dec 2011	#2
The Kardashians ARE part of the media. We wouldn't even know who they are without the media.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#6
Media is selling sexuality as a commodity.	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#17
I have only one quibble with your post	whathehell	Dec 2011	#132
i think the social environment has change. significantly in last decade.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#134
I know what you are saying....To a certain extent,	whathehell	Dec 2011	#139
there is a better way. we had it for a little while until we went to pornification and girls/women	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#142
***	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#163
i get it. you are part of the asshole group. and you wear it with pride. i hear ya.....	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#167
Either that, or you're mad	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#168
wha???? lol. ah ha. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#176
It's never been the same since the indigo children bombed the moon	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#182
Don't be mean to the man. Everything on earth exists for a reason.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#184
hey... i am not being mean. it is a hoot. they brag, they say	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#189
For the record, I didn't think "you" were being mean.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#192
i dont know why you put you in quotes, but, i am glad you did not think i was being mean. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#198
If I posted Denis Leary's "I'm an asshole" in the "assholes check in thread"	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#201
no... not with naked women, but you sure do flappy armed if women	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#204
challenge away, I say	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#205
i dont give a shit what you buy. it is really not about rolling stone. but no surprise	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#206
Wait. What about the Rolling Stones?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#208
hey, i am sorry you can't get no... satisfaction. hey hey hey..... i know you have tried and tried	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#215
Yes, because I'm Mick Jagger.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#216
hey, i thought you were telling me sumthin. lol. bah hahaha. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#217
each one of my words is a multi-faceted font of wisdom pearls which operates on multiple levels	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#219
can't get no....	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#221
Just ignore him.	whathehell	Dec 2011	#232
***	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#243
Of course he does....Typical. n/t	whathehell	Dec 2011	#227
He should embrace it! You're doing him a favor. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#195
see. glass half full. accepting them for who they claim to be.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#197
One of me is plenty, thanks.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#199
Ignore. Ignore. Ignore	PhoenixAbove	Dec 2011	#256
there it is PhoenixAbove	getdown	Dec 2011	#335
Amazing how many people seem to have signed up for the sole purpose	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#348
you are	getdown	Dec 2011	#357
Maybe I just don't have enough selves.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#362
La La La	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#368
ah, yes, the good old days of prudery.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#164
I'm not for prudery or "sticky" and I think you know that...Good try, though n/t	whathehell	Dec 2011	#186
"You" think "old fashioned prudery" was a "good thing"	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#193
Read the post again...This time with your "thinking cap" on, lol.	whathehell	Dec 2011	#210
So you said it, but you qualified it.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#213
And?	whathehell	Dec 2011	#223
More like got y'all	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#242
Funny..	whathehell	Dec 2011	#264
perhaps you should take a poll	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#311
even when they were property?	getdown	Dec 2011	#229
No more or less than African American slaves.	whathehell	Dec 2011	#231
you think	getdown	Dec 2011	#234
Um...No....The original statement went to what they "were"	whathehell	Dec 2011	#239
you may quibble	getdown	Dec 2011	#276
Getdown,	whathehell	Dec 2011	#355
got it	getdown	Dec 2011	#358
Thanks, and	whathehell	Dec 2011	#367
had a feeling	getdown	Dec 2011	#370
Wow.	whathehell	Dec 2011	#378
well	getdown	Dec 2011	#379
Did you see this? It's AMAZING!	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#381
don't play that	getdown	Dec 2011	#388
I'm sure it's way easier if you're fielding a whole shitload of paddles.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#396
heh heh	whathehell	Dec 2011	#384
I blame OJ.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#166
Yeah, but I would question what they use as the definition of 'sexualized'.	randome	Dec 2011	#3
Here's where you will find those answers - the actual study	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#12
Paywall.	boppers	Dec 2011	#230
Sarah	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2011	#4
May an article post be posted twice? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#8
I dunno	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2011	#11
Luvin' is good lol	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#14
I concluded	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2011	#70
Seems to me like you need to either write a book on this or teach a class	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#74
I write	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2011	#95
Yes, I think so. People cross-post articles a lot.	MineralMan	Dec 2011	#36
Thanks, Mineral Man! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#37
Yes you may post twice. I'm GLAD you posted in GD, actually	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#88
Draining and infuriating. I get pissed off when I see women pornified in magazines, TV and movies	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#136
I have the same kind of reaction	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#141
Is Rolling Stone now a adequate scientific proxy for "the media" or "capitalism"?	cthulu2016	Dec 2011	#5
Here - read the study	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#9
The methodological fine points are irrelevant to this particular objection	cthulu2016	Dec 2011	#18
I agree.	Gormy Cuss	Dec 2011	#50
Having trouble with this	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#7
I'm going to help you...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#10
don't forget	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2011	#15
not only empowering, but an excitement and titillation at seeing 2 hour and 45 minute of violence	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#21
I'm embarrassed at my ignorance but I don't know what The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is about...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#26
why give them the money empowering hollywood to use explicit graphic drawn out rape of women as	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#30
I seldom watch American movies because they lend themselves to the degradation of women...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#51
Yes. European movies such as the "Irreversible" or "Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down" show rape the right way	Snake Alchemist	Dec 2011	#102
You assume I watch everything. However, Hollywood's plastic, surgically-altered idiotic female	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#107
That Erin Brokovitch was a real hussy. n/t.	Snake Alchemist	Dec 2011	#130
American independent movies?....Not so much.	whathehell	Dec 2011	#121
Indy movies are wonderful! And they use actors that are not the typical Barbie-cookie-cutter	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#123
Yes, exactly...	whathehell	Dec 2011	#188
British stuff is wonderful. Love Britcoms. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#196
No, no sex in Britain, that's for sure.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#209
I love the dramas....Spooks, Waking the Dead, etc.	whathehell	Dec 2011	#214
What is a multi-directional DVD player? I've got to have one if it can get all	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#218
Oh, yes!...Glad to help out..A mult-directional DVD player will play DVDs	whathehell	Dec 2011	#224
That's going to be my own personal Xmas gift to myself...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#260
Good for you!....Enjoy. n/t	whathehell	Dec 2011	#263
Yes, it is a saga-3 books.	ceile	Dec 2011	#153
Yes, Hollywood does ruin things. I recently took my niece - she's 11 - to see Breaking Dawn, the	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#155
Is that the one where the girl	Control-Z	Dec 2011	#222
Vulgar, and not at all like the book. I'm not saying the book was a classic...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#262
Are you aware that there is a charge for that article?	JHB	Dec 2011	#99
It's not an article. It's the complete, published study, if you desire to examine it. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#117
It is a research journal article...	JHB	Dec 2011	#140
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#251
That pricing is not unusual for academic journals	JHB	Dec 2011	#267
So someone who has defined "sexualization" and "objectification"- two totally subjective, bs terms-	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#158
you would not be confused by	getdown	Dec 2011	#233
" We keep churning out degrees in crap like "sociology" when we should be teaching students math"	Hissyspit	Dec 2011	#235
Yeah, the right wing just LOVES science.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#240
Utter nonsense. You prove my point.	Hissyspit	Dec 2011	#252
yup	getdown	Dec 2011	#279
froth away	getdown	Dec 2011	#278
"pornified."says it all. this is what we do to our women and girls today. and IF	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#16
Yeah, don't you love it? Automatically 2 or 3 guys that love the pornification of women cry and	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#20
yup. AND	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#24
Yup!	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#53
i dont much indulge in grudges, either.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#56
Absolutely. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#67
You know, Sarah,	Zorra	Dec 2011	#238
Sometimes it sure seems that way.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#259
I totally understand.	Zorra	Dec 2011	#281
I never thought about it, that homophobia and sexism could go hand in hand. I suppose the same	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#282
and I think the people who get all angry over depictions of hetero sex are bugged by gay sex too.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#302
two words	riverwalker	Dec 2011	#19
Toddlers and tiaras takes the pornification to women all the way to the level of little girls - sick	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#22
Yeah, that's a pretty sick show (nt)	The Straight Story	Dec 2011	#28
K&R.	PeaceNikki	Dec 2011	#23
with ya.... sistaaaah. i won't shut up, if you dont. lol	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#27
No, I will not shut up.	PeaceNikki	Dec 2011	#33
damn that is good. i was listening to a poster saying women leave the house to be looked at.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#44
These would probably be the same people who think women BREATHE for them. n/t	whathehell	Dec 2011	#125
PeaceNikki, I'm with you too. You're right. This bullshit needs to be stopped.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#46
Well, two things. It is Rolling stone and women have more sexual parts than men	The Straight Story	Dec 2011	#25
Okay now...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#32
Men's Journal	wryter2000	Dec 2011	#78
In many ways, capitalism has made women's magazines even more nefarious since they are propaganda	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#79
You are so right about women's magazines	wryter2000	Dec 2011	#81
?? You puzzle me.	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#34
I didn't write the study about what is/is not sexual	The Straight Story	Dec 2011	#43
That was my whole problem with the fragment of the article	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#47
I'm going to post about that. :) Are women who run around half naked, surgically-altered, and	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#115
Bullshit.....Sarah I. is correct....Rolling Stone is about MUSIC, it's not a "men's magazine". n/t	whathehell	Dec 2011	#126
is this a surprise?	maggiesfarmer	Dec 2011	#29
Oops! You didn't read the post or the article....	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#35
correct, you have to follow the rest of my points as well	maggiesfarmer	Dec 2011	#59
1 study in the 80's with questionairre proved that out hence, it becomes fact. NOT reality.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#38
Despite my problems with the article, Sarah has the right of it.	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#31
Thanks, lapislzi. Capitalism is the culprit here. It sells everything, people's lives, people's	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#40
Always enjoy your posts, Sarah	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#48
Wait a moment. I can't let this one stand.	Shandris	Dec 2011	#87
I actually qualify downthread	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#103
Okay, yah, now it makes much more sense.	Shandris	Dec 2011	#173
That's really informative.	Delphinus	Dec 2011	#110
A race to the bottom, in all it's obscene glory.	bemildred	Dec 2011	#39
It's always the bottom line, and increasing profits till they blow up into the stratosphere. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#42
I know! Rolling Stone used to be such a family-oriented magazine.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#171
LOL.	bemildred	Dec 2011	#271
Thank you for the article Sarah.	MuseRider	Dec 2011	#41
Thanks, MuseRider. It might not make a huge difference now, but if all of us start to mention this	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#45
My experience with this	MuseRider	Dec 2011	#58
i couldnt agree more with the whole of your post. absolutely. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#61
Muse, I get very frustrated too. It's hard to discuss something that is so pervasive, and be told	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#62
my husband said the same to me. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#66
No you are not wrong.	MuseRider	Dec 2011	#72
Rolling Stones Cover Descent Started In the Early 1990s	NashVegas	Dec 2011	#49
Rolling Stone was used in this study, but honestly, they could've taken any magazine at all...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#52
"even" womens' magazines or "especially" womens' magazines...	NYC_SKP	Dec 2011	#60
Oh yes. Myriad articles telling women "how to give him better orgasms" and "how to look like a Ho"	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#63
Women's mags (Cosmo, etc.) discuss female orgasm	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#68
The woman as workhorse, robot, and mannequin. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#77
I wonder if that indeed is a cause or an effect of Madison Avenue's branding	LanternWaste	Dec 2011	#54
The female body was branded centuries ago	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#64
That's exactly it, and capitalism is raking in the dough now by degrading women. On the other hand	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#69
Now, HERE'S a cart-and-horse question:	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#85
Hmm... good question! I think what's going on right now is unbridled capitalism	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#90
i think another part of the equation is in the 70's and 80's	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#93
well said (nt)	Tumbulu	Dec 2011	#246
yep, objectification of the attractive female form is embedded deeply. Madison Avenue is made up	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#97
Yes, absolutely, to the suggestion that women are pushed to triumph only via their looks	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#147
agree!!! (nt)	Tumbulu	Dec 2011	#247
The elder branding does not deny the new branding... :	LanternWaste	Dec 2011	#116
It makes money. If you put a naked woman in front of a man, he'll spend money on it...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#65
it is pretty damn degrading to men, too. most just do not get the insult. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#73
It is. As long as men have sperm, they will be creating daughters, and it'd be good if they were	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#75
but what it does to men is take them away from their authentic self and creates a caricature	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#76
That's true too. It draws them as a mindless penis. Men are beautiful souls and capitalism gives	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#82
agreed. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#83
Sorry, "Mindless Penis" is my band name, and I have trademarked its usage.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#203
oxymoron	getdown	Dec 2011	#237
Redundant Oxymoron is my OTHER band name.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#241
Ha ha ha.	Major Hogwash	Dec 2011	#275
rilly?	getdown	Dec 2011	#277
rilly trooly.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#295
for what reasons	getdown	Dec 2011	#298
I'm not derailing anything. I'm objecting to the quantification of so-called "hyper-sexualization"	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#299
no one claimed that	getdown	Dec 2011	#303
Oh, and I work for Rolling Stone, and I'm terrifed that objections from a few DU members	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#300
are you interested	getdown	Dec 2011	#304
"effects" like "I am harmed by the presence of a semi-naked human on a magazine cover"?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#307
it's an honest question	getdown	Dec 2011	#310
and can you consider that this is yet another exercise in 'Merkin moral panic	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#312
moral?	getdown	Dec 2011	#318
right. And that 'research' is even more bullshit than this is.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#322
congratulations	getdown	Dec 2011	#324
how about you post a link to the 'science' showing 'harm' from erotic images	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#327
do you ever consider what it's like for someone beside yourself?	getdown	Dec 2011	#333
No, that's a link to another post by you.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#345
he is afraid you may want to take his porn away	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#313
this seems to be his porn	getdown	Dec 2011	#316
look, we get that pictures of nudity and sex make you mad	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#323
look, we that the topic of gender inequality make you mad	getdown	Dec 2011	#325
you mean like arguing that 'pornification' makes breastfeeding less acceptable	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#326
that would be lying on your part. you leave out the issue of that thread. PUBLIC	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#328
and where's the data showing less PUBLIC breastfeeding?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#329
where is your acknowledgment of you post misrepresenting what i posted nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#331
You're not going to get it, because I'm right.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#349
passing that off as a quote of mine? you quote it, put it in italics? that is beyond what i expect	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#350
no, that's a paraphrase.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#351
quotes and italics is a paraphrase to you? and it was not a parahrase. it was made up and wrong	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#352
aint that the pots calling the kettle black.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#353
ya. right. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#354
ah, another dip of the toe?	getdown	Dec 2011	#330
it could, but there's no evidence it does. Because we are complex creatures who can walk & chew gum.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#344
funny. every time you see a "giant goofy balloon"	getdown	Dec 2011	#356
what can I say	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#361
no evidence. really.	getdown	Dec 2011	#359
No, that's something you wrote.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#360
you can find	getdown	Dec 2011	#363
Ah, the old "go find it yourself". Bullshit. The "studies" are bogus "science" which is then used to	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#364
you don't seem really interested	getdown	Dec 2011	#365
I'm very interested.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#366
um	getdown	Dec 2011	#371
Right. Again, another case of "I know what I know, because I know it"... except that's not science.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#372
i'm sorry	getdown	Dec 2011	#373
The onus is on you to back up the claim. You can't.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#382
total	getdown	Dec 2011	#386
exactly.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#397
Agree strongly.	Delphinus	Dec 2011	#111
Mexican TV channels were way ahead of the curve on this	slackmaster	Dec 2011	#55
it is also way ahead of the curve in a patriarchal misogynist society. so? nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#57
Mexico is what I view as a perfect capitalistic society - anything goes - mass poverty, mega-wealthy	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#71
Yup, and the honest businessmen put more food for the birds	chrisa	Dec 2011	#80
Exactly. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#84
I stopped buying Rolling Stone YEARS ago, because of their brazen imbalance	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#86
Let me ask you a question. Have you noticed an increase in shows about women tortured to death?	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#98
We could start a whole new discussion thread about the link between porn and violence*	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#106
Yes! It would get crazy. the same 3 or 4 guys would be all nervous and jittery, proclaiming we are	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#135
Well when you say things like	Occulus	Dec 2011	#341
sort of like how people would freak out over a thread saying abortion=breast cancer	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#170
Breastfeeding=less breast cancer	marzipanni	Dec 2011	#305
as the race driver said... nasty. think when a woman sticks tits out for him, he is saying nasty?	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#306
funny, I'm in favor of breastfeeding AND I'm not mad about sex in magazines	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#309
funny, ... then i am not addressing you, am i? nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#315
guess not, huh.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#317
Come back when	getdown	Dec 2011	#376
wait... Phish are coming back?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#383
nice try	getdown	Dec 2011	#387
hubby and i went thru this thread this morning. got a chuckle at some of it.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#391
yes	getdown	Dec 2011	#392
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#400
as a matter of fact,this morning i asked if he wanted to check out du. there are forums he would	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#401
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#402
hm... well, if you ever got out of the sex threads, you would hear plenty over the years	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#403
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#398
did the study suggest they never sexualize men? i think not. i believe your argument is a strawman	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#404
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#405
you go	getdown	Dec 2011	#408
This message was self-deleted by its author	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#409
"many of the reasons for not breastfeeding are linked to the sexualization of breasts" - um, ok	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#308
yes, I have.	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#108
Marginalization and contempt toward anything female is a good way to put it.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#122
thanks for all your excellent replies here!	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#143
Same to you! I think you must be an instructor on the topic, or a writer! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#145
Awww, thanks!	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#283
Sign language interpreters rock. I attended a wedding with a sign language interpreter.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#284
Wow wow wow!! I AM in Roch!	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#285
OH MY GOD. NO WAY.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#286
YES WAY!! That would be Father Ray!	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#289
Father Ray is a sweetiepie! Everyone feels good around him.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#290
Blanche, please explain and cite your source	maggiesfarmer	Dec 2011	#112
Here are just a few of many. Also note one that directly corrects your impression:	BlancheSplanchnik	Dec 2011	#138
thanks for taking the time to reply	maggiesfarmer	Dec 2011	#159
The more people complain the more it'll happen.	Quartermass	Dec 2011	#89
really? so we should just shut up? how has that been working for us? oh wait	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#91
Please explain nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#92
In the entertainment world, there is no such thing as bad publicity.	Quartermass	Dec 2011	#105
You're right that it's said better bad publicity than none at all, HOWEVER, it is possible to label	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#114
separate themselves from the oppressed group and be accepted as part of the positive majority	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#120
That explains Bobble Head Women perfectly. They want to side with what they interpret as 'victors'	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#128
If you adore men, well, I know some feminists who would negatively criticize you for that.	Quartermass	Dec 2011	#129
and i do not know a single feminist that would have an issue with adoring men. especially as many	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#131
Nothing more wonderful than a male body, is there? If there is, I don't know it!	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#133
You should read Valeri Solanas's Scum Manifesto. That's the kind of thing I've often encountered.	Quartermass	Dec 2011	#137
Okay, I went there...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#144
You should really read through the whole thing.	Quartermass	Dec 2011	#152
Well, you gotta admit...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#154
You are aware that pretty much nobody takes Valerie Solanas, a mentally ill woman, seriously	REP	Dec 2011	#225
You'd be surprised.	Quartermass	Dec 2011	#226
Yeah, and I knew this guy once who couldn't trust anything that bled every month and didn't die	REP	Dec 2011	#228
But is it really capitalism? Or simply culture?	randome	Dec 2011	#94
There's a culture thing, yes, but capitalism just drives it in, seals it, makes it solid. The media	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#104
heh heh heh	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#169
India and China are both far larger, very diverse, as well.	closeupready	Dec 2011	#109
Eh. India, for all its different religious viewpoints, is still a very religious country.	randome	Dec 2011	#127
A fairly strong majority of its readers are men….	NCTraveler	Dec 2011	#96
X(	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2011	#100
Hmm... :) nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#101
I believe that we are not falling into negativity, in general,	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2011	#148
That's definitely what I'm striving for! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#149
interesting perspective.	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#150
Anything more specific would be off-topic, but I hope the Trend will quickly become visible.	Fire Walk With Me	Dec 2011	#175
You are making claims that are not reportedly in the journal article...	Taitertots	Dec 2011	#113
We're a dysfunctional society when it comes to sex and relationships.	dawg	Dec 2011	#118
Scary to me too, and it is dysfunctional. Thank you for pointing that out. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#119
you got it right on. the issue here, is one gender may feel they have a oneupmanship	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#124
K&R	Soylent Brice	Dec 2011	#146
ROLLING STONE covers?!?!	Eliminator	Dec 2011	#151
Do you wear cleavage around your groin when you go out, so women can feast themselves on peeking	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#157
My wife & I saw quite possibly the longest penis shot I've ever seen in a motion picture last night	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#161
Whoever heard of SEX in ROCK AND ROLL??!?!?! What's next????	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#162
I love the Wiggles. Too bad my kids have kind of outgrown it.	Jennicut	Dec 2011	#183
After I saw Bill O'Reilly do a guest appearance on their show	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#190
ZOMG! Think of the Children!	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#156
I'll say it again: This is why we're getting our ass kicked by China and India. We churn out degrees	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#160
I resent that sociology remark...	Modern_Matthew	Dec 2011	#187
I took soc classes in college, too.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#191
Economic demand for engineers is finite, just like the demand for everything else	Hippo_Tron	Dec 2011	#406
And what is the demand for studies quantifying "hyper-sexualization" in Rolling Stone covers?	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#407
As I already said, there's little demand for that	Hippo_Tron	Dec 2011	#410
I agree wholeheartedly with your last sentence, and think that's absolutely what we should do.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#411
Again, there aren't a lot of jobs with 17th century French Poetry as a pre-requisite	Hippo_Tron	Dec 2011	#412
I'm also totally in favor of learning for the sake of learning.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#413
I should be able to access this article at my university.	aikoaiko	Dec 2011	#172
Thank you! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#181
I love this thread	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#174
well, except maybe the posts of beavis and butthead. i am assuming that is who a poster	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#177
LOL, for the amount of replies	lapislzi	Dec 2011	#178
ahhh	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#180
They do this shit to toddlers even	Burma Jones	Dec 2011	#179
Let's all be fuddy duddies. nt	Modern_Matthew	Dec 2011	#185
That's nothing. In Russia it went from zero to US levels in 20 years of	Fool Count	Dec 2011	#200
yes. and they have quite a nationwide scam for young hot chicks and really stupid	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#207
So,	dawg	Dec 2011	#212
Nice. Isn't capitalism just lovely. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#220
I think the word "hypersexualized" was made up expressly for the purpose of this one "study"	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#202
Capitalism causing erectile dysfunction?	Under Dog	Dec 2011	#236
I'll check them out. :)	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#258
Assigning numbers to a subjective judgment doesn't make it science.	LeftyMom	Dec 2011	#244
thank you.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#245
Do schools not explain how research works, or do kids not pay attention?	LeftyMom	Dec 2011	#248
Like I said upthread, it's by sociologists, for sociology professors, teaching sociology students	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#249
Funny how your comments all through this thread sound almost exactly like GOP Florida Governor Rick	Hissyspit	Dec 2011	#255
Whatever. Sociology- which I studied in school myself- is a useful lens through which to look.	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#293
As people have discussed in this thread, it is not completely subjective.	Hissyspit	Dec 2011	#253
I took a look at the methodology.	LeftyMom	Dec 2011	#270
Even trying to lodge that objection seems useless. People know what they know, and they're gonna be	Warren DeMontague	Dec 2011	#301
I have been observing this my adult life- am in my mid 50's	Tumbulu	Dec 2011	#250
Yes, but what happens if a child grows up with this garbage...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#257
Yes, I have a daughter who is ten and I am made crazy by it	Tumbulu	Dec 2011	#272
It's sad that little girls think dressing up like something out of Cosmopolitan is just fine...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#273
the parents say no. i had one mom tell me, all the girls do it, how can i say no	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#274
some here need help understanding the point you made	getdown	Dec 2011	#314
I'd venture to say that some in here get defensive every time a feminist speaks...	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#319
well some women fall for it too, right?	getdown	Dec 2011	#320
Oh, absolutely! I call them Bobble Head Women. They nod to anything their man says	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#321
Young women gain from this behavior	flamingdem	Dec 2011	#280
If a space alien watched TV in the US for four hours, he would conclude we sell three things....	Scuba	Dec 2011	#261
EXACTLY. American TV is geared to males, and not to the wise ones, either! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#265
Pretty much EVERYTHING is geared toward men. And I'm one.	randome	Dec 2011	#268
FEMALE sexuality is being sold everywhere. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#269
This isn't all just geared to males.	dawg	Dec 2011	#287
Yes, however, this is also true: Why would a woman want to buy a product, if it weren't:	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#288
This is not a surprise to me.	Rex	Dec 2011	#291
It sure does. Capitalism is not about love, goodness, fairness, or helping. Only $$$$$.	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#292
Agree 100%	Rex	Dec 2011	#296
and	getdown	Dec 2011	#297
IMO this is why I often wonder if the "sexual revolution" was a complete disaster.	Odin2005	Dec 2011	#334
misogynist "woman as virgin" meme to the equally misogynist "woman as whore"	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#336
that's a good answer	getdown	Dec 2011	#339
Yes! It went from the woman as helpless virgin, to the woman as whore	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#337
And it encourages our rape culture.	Odin2005	Dec 2011	#340
it seems the disconnect	getdown	Dec 2011	#342
Being prudish. But the problem lies with the media, TV, Hollywood, comics, videogames	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#343
You're so right. Women continue to be placed in the role of either virgins or whores	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#395
2 words	getdown	Dec 2011	#375
There's no doubt that playing whore makes money, but it sure as hell	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#377
a form of pimping	ensho	Dec 2011	#389
Yes indeed, but all in the name of capitalism. Capitalism has no soul, and is amoral. nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#394
K&R	proverbialwisdom	Dec 2011	#390
Good heavens! It's worse than I'd thought! nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#393
The STUDY was of ROLLING STONE, IOW, the sexualization is in POP MUSIC.	WinkyDink	Dec 2011	#414
And you live in which country? nt	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#418
and even when women aren't trying to be sexualized	noamnety	Dec 2011	#415
yup. so true, so true. a disgusting thread. nt	seabeyond	Dec 2011	#416
You're right. This isn't done only to Repuke females. It's worse with	Sarah Ibarruri	Dec 2011	#417

Response to Sarah Ibarruri (Original post)

Wed Dec 28, 2011, 12:32 PM

Brickbat (19,339 posts)

LUV capitalism!!! Study shows hyper-sexualization of women by the media has increased 10 fold...

1. Painful and important.

13. Quite. It was no surprise to me. One would have to be an idiot to not notice...

165. Why? No, seriously. Why?

194. It's sad that some liberals don't believe in pure science research.

211. Phony statistical quantifications of bs terms like "hypersexualization" AREN'T 'science' at all.

254. Wow..

266. Did you read the study?

294. You mean the one they're charging 35 bucks to read?

332. As a sociologist, I'm a little astounded by your claims.

338. thank you

347. "As it turns out...." Um, I'm not a puppet on the end of your wrist.

346. I'm not condemning the whole field. As I said downthread, I think sociology is a useful lens through

369. Speaking of astounding claims:

374. word games

380. It's striking because they made up the criteria and then -surprise- found a 'striking' increse in it

385. you claim it's "fucking idiotic"

399. I already found out

2. The Kardashians also did their part

6. The Kardashians ARE part of the media. We wouldn't even know who they are without the media.

17. Media is selling sexuality as a commodity.

132. I have only one quibble with your post

134. i think the social environment has change. significantly in last decade.

139. I know what you are saying....To a certain extent,

142. there is a better way. we had it for a little while until we went to pornification and girls/women

163. ***

167. i get it. you are part of the asshole group. and you wear it with pride. i hear ya.....

168. Either that, or you're mad

176. wha???? lol. ah ha. nt

182. It's never been the same since the indigo children bombed the moon

184. Don't be mean to the man. Everything on earth exists for a reason.

189. hey... i am not being mean. it is a hoot. they brag, they say

192. For the record, I didn't think "you" were being mean.

198. i dont know why you put you in quotes, but, i am glad you did not think i was being mean. nt

201. If I posted Denis Leary's "I'm an asshole" in the "assholes check in thread"

204. no... not with naked women, but you sure do flappy armed if women

205. challenge away, I say

206. i dont give a shit what you buy. it is really not about rolling stone. but no surprise

208. Wait. What about the Rolling Stones?

215. hey, i am sorry you can't get no... satisfaction. hey hey hey..... i know you have tried and tried

216. Yes, because I'm Mick Jagger.

217. hey, i thought you were telling me sumthin. lol. bah hahaha. nt

219. each one of my words is a multi-faceted font of wisdom pearls which operates on multiple levels

221. can't get no....

232. Just ignore him.

243. ***

227. Of course he does....Typical. n/t

195. He should embrace it! You're doing him a favor. nt

197. see. glass half full. accepting them for who they claim to be.

199. One of me is plenty, thanks.

256. Ignore. Ignore. Ignore

335. there it is PhoenixAbove

348. Amazing how many people seem to have signed up for the sole purpose

357. you are

362. Maybe I just don't have enough selves.

368. La La La

164. ah, yes, the good old days of prudery.

186. I'm not for prudery or "sticky" and I think you know that...Good try, though n/t

193. "You" think "old fashioned prudery" was a "good thing"

210. Read the post again...This time with your "thinking cap" on, lol.

213. So you said it, but you qualified it.

223. And?

242. More like got y'all

264. Funny..

311. perhaps you should take a poll

229. even when they were property?

231. No more or less than African American slaves.

234. you think

239. Um...No....The original statement went to what they "were"

276. you may quibble

355. Getdown,

358. got it

367. Thanks, and

370. had a feeling

378. Wow.

379. well

381. Did you see this? It's AMAZING!

388. don't play that

396. I'm sure it's way easier if you're fielding a whole shitload of paddles.

384. heh heh