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mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 06:47 PM Jul 2016

I a white woman stopped for gas today.........

here in Western Pennsylvania. There was a car at the next pump over with New Jersey plates. A young African-American woman was driving. I asked where she was from in New Jersey, (just wanted to converse & have relatives in NJ, not that they would know each other, but a way to start a conversation). She said they (she & 4 others) weren't from NJ, but rather from Atlanta.

The NJ plates were because it was a rental. Scenarios ran through my head of, if she were stopped by the Police, how the stop could go sideways.

We had about a 4-5 minute conversation, about Atlanta & her opinion of whether I should visit, she gave me an emphatic "yes."

Before she left, I told her to be safe, she extended her hand to me & we shook. She told me to be safe too. I'm not religious, but I muttered to myself, Godspeed.

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I a white woman stopped for gas today......... (Original Post) mrmpa Jul 2016 OP
Thank you. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #1
It cost nothing safeinOhio Jul 2016 #2
Good for you, that was nice IronLionZion Jul 2016 #3
He insists on keeping it though "for protection" left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #11
Obama's coming to get your guns! IronLionZion Jul 2016 #20
The biggest statistical indicator of a likelihood of being shot and/or killed Stevepol Jul 2016 #18
If you break it down by state rather than nation-wide IronLionZion Jul 2016 #21
Thanks for the info. kag Jul 2016 #46
I from Western PA myself Pakid Jul 2016 #39
A brief chance encounter like this brer cat Jul 2016 #4
You made my day Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #5
Thank you for reaching out.. HipChick Jul 2016 #6
I was looking to see an oppositional reply from BlueNoMatterWho ... pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #7
Many conversations like that, especially with young children HockeyMom Jul 2016 #8
Thank you. Quayblue Jul 2016 #9
Thank you for doing this philosslayer Jul 2016 #10
Our black compatriots are stateless persons under police rule. Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #14
They are in effect under occupation by a hostile force philosslayer Jul 2016 #15
Black people are not treated as citizens of the United States? oberliner Jul 2016 #32
Considering the encroachments on their most basic rights, Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #40
Absolutely preposterous oberliner Jul 2016 #42
Is this post for real? oberliner Jul 2016 #31
I absolutely think this philosslayer Jul 2016 #37
It's sad that this is seen as exceptional in out society nini Jul 2016 #12
I agree........... mrmpa Jul 2016 #16
A few kind words go a long way kacekwl Jul 2016 #13
I do not doubt this happened GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #17
Much of PA is very, very white Freddie Jul 2016 #30
I am always surprised GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #38
that was a lovely thing. niyad Jul 2016 #19
I can go 3 or 4 weeks with out seeing an AA person so I felt kinda guilty Jim Beard Jul 2016 #22
Felt kinda guilty for what? Doing your part of what? Leontius Jul 2016 #41
thank you. everyday kindness is of high value now in these terrible times uhnope Jul 2016 #23
Cool story, bro. TheManInTheMac Jul 2016 #24
Have you never seen a black person before? oberliner Jul 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Jul 2016 #26
I realize my response came across as snarky oberliner Jul 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Jul 2016 #28
Sorry for the self-delete. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #29
Recognition of the struggle this family might face AllyCat Jul 2016 #33
Driving a rental car? oberliner Jul 2016 #34
With out of state plates. AllyCat Jul 2016 #35
As a white guy, even I am nervous driving cross-country with plates that are out-of-state pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #44
Go with G-d Gothmog Jul 2016 #36
You were friendly to a woman, what's the big deal w/that? Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2016 #43
Last night we had to call 911 to my neighbors CarrieLynne Jul 2016 #45

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
3. Good for you, that was nice
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:17 PM
Jul 2016

I'm from rural western PA and it sounds like you have a lot more sense than many of the folks I grew up with, who all have Trump signs on their lawns.

I had a discussion with an old buddy who happens to be white and I suggested he maybe not keep his guns in his truck in case of a misunderstanding if he gets pulled over. He insists on keeping it though "for protection".

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
11. He insists on keeping it though "for protection"
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016

One never knows when Uncle Sam will come knocking on the door to confiscate our guns.

Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
18. The biggest statistical indicator of a likelihood of being shot and/or killed
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:47 PM
Jul 2016

is "gun ownership." People who buy a gun for protection are just increasing the chances that they themselves will be shot and/or killed as well as others.

People have long ago stopped listening to facts when it comes to guns.

Guns kill people. Make a chart. On the X axis put the number of people killed by guns, on the y axis put the number of guns in circulation. Both will increase in tandem. In other words, a 45° angle will describe the relationship between the two sets of facts. Put another way, guns kill people.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
21. If you break it down by state rather than nation-wide
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jul 2016
And it's not lots of people buying guns. It's a few people buying lots of guns, so it is more concentrated. Also more guns means more gun accidents. Like a child gets a hold of it.






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kag

(4,079 posts)
46. Thanks for the info.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 06:38 PM
Jul 2016

These are interesting charts. Thanks for posting.

When my kids were little and would be invited to someone else's house for a play date, I would always ask the parent(s) if they owned any guns. If the answer was yes I would always insist that the play date be at OUR house instead. Only one parent was ever offended, and it turned out that we didn't really want to be friends with that family anyway.

Pakid

(478 posts)
39. I from Western PA myself
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 12:59 PM
Jul 2016

It is often more than a little nutty around this part of the state. So far a least in my part of the state I have only found about 12 Trump sign and no signs for Hillary. In 2008 and 2012 my Obama signs kept running off all by themselves late at night One did come back to me wrap around a rock tossed at one of my windows after Obama won in 2012 ( they missed the window I guess when you going at high speed it really hard to aim well). Your buddy is safe enough since he is white in this very racist part of PA

brer cat

(24,559 posts)
4. A brief chance encounter like this
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jul 2016

can go a long way toward making all of us feel connected and safer. Good for you, mrmp!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. I was looking to see an oppositional reply from BlueNoMatterWho ...
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:29 PM
Jul 2016

But he was PPRd by Skinner this morning. And Skinner also locked his last anti-BLM thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=333722

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
8. Many conversations like that, especially with young children
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jul 2016

All Mothers have that special bond between them.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
10. Thank you for doing this
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jul 2016

People of color in this country face no greater threat than from law enforcement. Their lives are literally at risk every day just from going about their business from a racist, heavily armored enemy who doesn't value their lives, and is looking for a reason to harass, arrest, or injure them (or worse) at every turn. It's important for us to remember that.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
14. Our black compatriots are stateless persons under police rule.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jul 2016

They are certainly not treated as citizens of the United States.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,159 posts)
40. Considering the encroachments on their most basic rights,
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:07 PM
Jul 2016

the degree to which police officers behave towards them like an occupying army, and how they are treated as unwelcome foreigners outside black enclaves, we have a way to go before they enjoy full citizenship.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
37. I absolutely think this
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:13 AM
Jul 2016

Do you not? Have you not been watching the news? There is no bigger threat to the African American community than law enforcement.

nini

(16,672 posts)
12. It's sad that this is seen as exceptional in out society
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:23 PM
Jul 2016

Not knocking you at all since you made the effort to reach out, but the fact we have to see this as exceptional behavior in our current climate is a very sad indication of how lost we are.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
16. I agree...........
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jul 2016

it was not exceptional. I converse with just about anybody, this time my concern for her & her passengers safety was one of the first things that to my mind.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. I do not doubt this happened
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:46 PM
Jul 2016

But find it odd. I live in Florida and I guess over half the time I get gas there is an African American at the pumps.

Is this anecdote due to living in a mostly white location?

Again, just curious since I really would not notice the color of some filling up next to me.

Have a nice evening.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
38. I am always surprised
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 09:38 AM
Jul 2016

When I realized how homogeneous much of America is. I grew up in the Deep South, Louisiana specifically, and married a lady from rural Indiana. The first time I visited her family something seemed odd about the place. I realized it was all white and that felt strange to me.

Also explains their incredibly bland, boring food😳

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
22. I can go 3 or 4 weeks with out seeing an AA person so I felt kinda guilty
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jul 2016

but then I have many Hispanic acquaintances and friends so I guess I am doing my part.

Response to oberliner (Reply #25)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
27. I realize my response came across as snarky
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 07:46 AM
Jul 2016

But I am trying to figure out what this OP was supposed to be illustrating exactly.

Response to oberliner (Reply #27)

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
33. Recognition of the struggle this family might face
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:00 AM
Jul 2016

In any given area of the country with the circumstances presented.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. Driving a rental car?
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:02 AM
Jul 2016

Those are the circumstances that you are suggesting will lead to a struggle?

AllyCat

(16,177 posts)
35. With out of state plates.
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jul 2016

Having just read Neil deGrasse Tysons accounts of all his pullovers, the idea is not far fetched. AAs in our country are at risk every day.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
44. As a white guy, even I am nervous driving cross-country with plates that are out-of-state
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 06:05 PM
Jul 2016

That often seems to guarantee more police attention. But being white means my police encounters will not be negative. It's just the hassle of a stop and I'm quickly on my way.

For someone who isn't white and has the wrong plate it means an even greater likelihood of a stop, with results that are unpredictable but could be decidedly negative. Certainly a reason for a lot more nervousness than I experience.

CarrieLynne

(497 posts)
45. Last night we had to call 911 to my neighbors
Fri Jul 15, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jul 2016


the apt across the hall from me...

we heard a woman yelling, and kids screaming bloody murder - we called - we didn't know what was happening but we knew kids were being hurt...

when they entered the Apt I head the woman saying "Thank you! Thank you!" a little while later paramedics showed up - and still later a man was taken away in cuffs....

but I was terrified that we had done wrong and someone would end up shot....but i HAD to call...those poor kids
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