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SHRED

(28,136 posts) Sat Jul 16, 2016, 02:30 PM Jul 2016

"Conservative Values" "Family Values"

Notice how every time a rightwingnut says these the listener is just suppose to assume what they mean?

If anyone ever says this directly to you simply ask them to list these "values" and detail them.

Anyone ever do this? I'm curious as to their answers.

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"Conservative Values" "Family Values" (Original Post) SHRED Jul 2016 OP

I have a button that says "Hate is not a Family Value" irisblue Jul 2016 #1

Here ya go.... Ghost in the Machine Jul 2016 #2

I ask them to define those values all the time Warpy Jul 2016 #3

Family Values = bigotry and discrimination, conservative values = fearmongering and warmongering Initech Jul 2016 #4

This is true of almost every single political slogan in use. Shandris Jul 2016 #5

I lay it on thick shadowmayor Jul 2016 #6

irisblue

(32,910 posts)

1. I have a button that says "Hate is not a Family Value"

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 02:36 PM

Jul 2016

I'll pull it out and wear it this campaign season. And I will ask about values.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)

2. Here ya go....

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 02:45 PM

Jul 2016

http://antitheist-atheist.blogspot.com/2012/06/republican-sex-offenders-antitheist.html

Peace,

Ghost

Warpy

(111,108 posts)

3. I ask them to define those values all the time

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 02:51 PM

Jul 2016

since as a Democrat I can't possibly share any of them and I'd like to know what they are.

The dumb ones just go blank with curls of smoke coming out of their ears as they try to reboot. The smarter ones splutter and insult and either stomp off in a snit or change the subject fast.

Initech

(100,024 posts)

4. Family Values = bigotry and discrimination, conservative values = fearmongering and warmongering

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 02:58 PM

Jul 2016

Shandris

(3,447 posts)

5. This is true of almost every single political slogan in use.

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 03:42 PM

Jul 2016

It's intentional, as it forces in-group loyalty and, through it, 'radicalization' (more appropriately, polarization of the fanatical variety). It also serves as a marker for people who are infiltrators, as an infiltrator (presumably) won't 'get' what they mean by it. As someone who has lived on both sides at various points in my adult life, it's always fascinating watching the lingo differences back and forth and the amount of sheer delusion attached to both 'sides' (lol) about the other.

Try it sometime. You'll find it's actually ridiculously difficult to describe what anything we 'believe in' actually means consistent with other liberals that you don't know.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)

6. I lay it on thick

Reply to SHRED (Original post)

Sat Jul 16, 2016, 04:28 PM

Jul 2016

Ask them what they think of the idea - From each according to his ability to each according to his need? Seems like the foundation of a family unit - parents do what they can for the needs of their children. Most seem to agree with this idea until I explain that it is what Marx wrote. Then the cognitive dissonance algorithm in their little minds goes kaput. It's OK to love the Jesus but not espouse anything he mentioned, but Marx? Hell no. It's kind of like Krassner's Fuck Communism poster.

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