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It is what it is. Plagiarism that is -- is what it is.
There are too many students on the collegiate level that are expelled, removed and otherwise kicked out of Associate's, Bachelor's, Master's and Doctorate programs due to plagiarism. Is it right? Sure it is went one can Google Search a plagiarism checker in less than 10 sections.
The problems with Melania Trump's speech are many.
First, she stole at least 26 words and nearly complete paragraphs that were obviously someone else's written work.
Second, this Woman seeks (although it's likely NOT to happen) to be First Lady of the United States. A position held in honor and virtue. How can she be held in neither plagiarizing another First Lady, Michelle Obama's Speech?
Next is the issue of White Women Excuses.
Yes, it was written and meant in every light it was written "White Women Excuses".
If Michelle Obama did this to Nancy Reagan or Hillary Clinton in 2008, 2012 or anytime since coming on the Political Scene in Chicago, Illinois - that would have been the END of her husband's Presidential aspirations. Period. Done. It would have been OVER.
However, due to White Women Excuses,Melania Trump can, did and will likely get completely away with what was done. Equally, IF Michelle Obama did a similar action - Michelle and Barack would have been done.
What is up with that?
Why do we as a society repeatedly allow this?
Furthermore, Michelle Obama is a Harvard Educated Attorney. Top of her high school class. Near the top of her Harvard Undergrad and Graduate level education pursuits.
Meanwhile, Melania -- Let's Be Honest.
She married a man for money, was a "spokesmodel who not only lied about "lifting" a speech but equally lied about ever graduating from any University, College or Certificate Program - anywhere. Even a mail-in degree program.
The double standards are beyond belief.
Especially for African-American Women who like Michelle Obama earned collegiate level degrees. Who have to repeatedly deal with the faux "double standard" not matter how much achieved - with "White Women Excuses" for their faults.
Sadly, tomorrow Melania's Plagiarism will be shoved back under the rug.
However, Michelle Obama, Minority Students in Colleges across America and African-American Women in general will still be held to the same "White Women Excuses" that allow individuals like Ms. Trump to get away with, whatever.
#Truth
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)apologies to woody allen from What's Up, Tiger Lily?
kimbutgar
(21,060 posts)Per Media Matters:
But Several Right-Wing Media Figures Bend Over Backwards To Defend Speech
Foxs Kilmeade: Plagiarism Was OK Because It Actually Applies To Her Life. Fox co-host Brian Kilmeade claimed the plagiarism was acceptable because the speech actually applies to her life. From the July 19 edition of Fox News Fox and Friends:
AINSLEY EARHARDT (CO-HOST): I think [Melania Trump] represents women very well. She's poised. She's polished. She represents the American dream. She teaches. She talks about teaching her son Barron the same values that we all grew up with, working hard. Here's a lady who's not from this country, and she could become the first lady of the United States of America. If that's not the American dream, I don't know what it is.
STEVE DOOCY (CO-HOST): Well put.
BRIAN KILMEADE (CO-HOST): She knows five languages, this is just one of them. So she comes out. She reads this speech and she goes abroad and brings things up we would not know about Donald Trump, what kind of father he is. Talks about how he does not judge people by their religion, does not judge people by their background and how much money they make and how patriotic he is. I think its great. A lot of people are pointing to the fact that there are some passages that are similar to Michelle Obama. And Im astounded to -- you know, we have to go to bed at some point. And this is on at late. Im astounded to wake up and everybodys talking about, "Well well she plagiarized some parts of the speech. It's exactly like Michelle Obama in 2008." So, you read them, and they are very similar. And you know, the speechwriter who crafted this together has got people to answer to.
DOOCY: Well she said she wrote it herself.
KILMEADE: But the other thing, Steve -- but I will say this, Steve, it actually applies to her life. It talks about her parents and the values and the values she wants to put to her kids. I got a chance to talk to her off-camera. We go to all those Apprentice finales and we have a good time. And all she talks about is her kids. And we met her parents, and that's all they talk about. [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 7/19/16]
After I saw this I wanted to puke
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)kimbutgar
(21,060 posts)arthritisR_US
(7,283 posts)plagiarize in each of them...
lapfog_1
(29,194 posts)and, whoever did write it, rickrolled the RNC
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)She doesn't care.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)They Are Sociopathic Liars.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)Her shit doesn't stink either.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)Students are NOT expelled nowadays in our "special snowflake" society. I know. I have had 4 plagiarism cases against students. Know how many were expelled? 0.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)"A student found guilty of violating a college's plagiarism policies can face sanctions ranging from failure of a class to expulsion from the school. In minor instances, such as copying a homework assignment, instructors may simply fail you for the work. However, major plagiarism cases involving copying significant portions of papers or projects often result in referrals to college judiciary boards that make judgments and issue sanctions."
http://education.seattlepi.com/can-happen-student-found-guilty-plagiarism-1029.html
Also, are we now saying Plagiarism is A Okay because using the lean of "White Women Excuses" because Melania Trump done it?
Seeking clarity?
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)Two of them, major state universities and the other an elite liberal arts college. So please...spare me. Nobody will give two shits about this in a few days.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Nobody will care about this in a couple of days, but I don't mind taking the opportunity to talk about it. I think it was Melania's tribute to her birth and upbringing in a Communist country (as long as conservatives want to harp on President Obama, Kenya, anti-colonialism, and whatever other xenophobic bugaboos are dancing around inside their tiny skulls).
She was just following her Marxist indoctrination: From each (Michelle Obama) according to her ability (to write a speech) to each (Melania Trump) according to her need (to read a speech off a teleprompter).
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Defending Plagiarism. PLEASE -- As there is no excuse, no matter how many or what type of Universities you "taught at"!
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)If you think I'm defending plagiarism, you're delusional. I go after every student. I am telling you that universities DO NOT EXPEL students. And if you think I agree with that, well...again, you can't read.
randome
(34,845 posts)So I think it may be fair to say that they truly did not know they had plagiarized. They're stupid people.
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LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)And thought they could get away with it.
randome
(34,845 posts)And STILL have gotten away with it in the eyes of The Faithful.
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Kathy M
(1,242 posts)maybe even on purpose ? Disrespect towards Obama 's and the uproar it would cause . Melania played her scene Monday night .......
Came across this earlier " CLEVELAND A Democratic super PAC has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission charging that the Trump campaign broke federal election law by using his corporation to advance his presidential campaign. "
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-conventions/democratic-pac-files-fec-complaint-over-melania-trump-s-rnc-n614131
This is inexcusable on mr and mrs T parts to do for so many reasons imo
kathy
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Supposedly.
maxsolomon
(33,252 posts)the Rickroll is proof.
If she'd just said she had help, English is not my 1st language, the Finger of Blame would fall on the writer. Instead she foolishly claimed to have written "most" of it.
I'm at the point of feeling sorry for a gold-digging trophy wife. Weird.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Not one bit. Google It, is what she should have done. Also, considering the fact she lied about graduating college ever -- this is more than just a one-time lie and copy/paste occurrence.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)during my undergrad and grad through turnitin. Even though I knew that my content was properly sourced and original, those first few seconds while it was evaluating my work was excruciating.
I can't believe this happened, and I can't believe they are outright denying this crap.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Sweat pouring down my back. Feeling guilty even though I knew I quadruple checked my work. Relieved it was over and done. Ugh....memories. Lol.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)It is an eye opening experience, one that I have drilled into my kids' heads so they learn how to write and properly cite their papers.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)No getting out alive on that one. Lol.
Phentex
(16,330 posts)all she had to do was keep it about her background and her experience with knowing him. NOT the other more general kind of speech. You would think she would want to say something different on purpose.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)We know that Trump is a pig, but no personal anecdotes after 18 years? Heck, I would have had a ton after just a few years of marriage!
Just goes to show you he isn't really a family man.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)They were cute objects that he might have hugged occasionally. I give 100 percent credit for the kids upbringing to the 3 wives for sure.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)wondering how that reflected on Obama himself, etc. Double standards is what they do.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)You can bet on that!
malaise
(268,724 posts)Rec
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)plage! the 'u' is optional, along with the honesty part