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Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:02 AM Jul 2016

How it became cool to hate Hillary Clinton...

snip:

PHILADELPHIA ― Donald Trump bragged not long ago that he could shoot someone dead on New York’s Fifth Avenue and his supporters would still love him.

The boast was meant to illustrate the loyalty of his fans. But if the Republican nominee truly wants to know how such a charge can affect a political career, he could just ask Hillary Clinton.

Murdering someone with a gun is just one of the things Clinton has been accused of over the years by her political opponents, who have attacked her for such things as profiting from insider information in the commodities market, enabling husband and former president Bill Clinton’s infidelities, and, more recently, mishandling the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya.

A quarter-century of drama involving the former first lady brings her to a remarkable threshold: on the doorstep of becoming the first female American president, despite being seen as a villain by a sizable segment of the population.

“There’s a narrative here, and it’s a real narrative, and she hasn’t dealt with it at all,” said David Winston, Republican pollster and former aide to Bill Clinton-era House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) “The challenge for her is the things that have happened recently that are feeding into an existing storyline.”

So ingrained is the anti-Hillary sentiment, crossing party and demographic lines, that even those too young to remember anything about Whitewater or “Troopergate” know it’s cool to dislike her -– even though they may not be quite sure why.

A private person by nature, Clinton responded through the years by throwing up even more barriers against outsiders, her supporters say, culminating in the decision that led her to use a private email server to handle her official communications as secretary of state. A November 2011 email to her top confidante stated it best: “I don’t want any risk of the personal being accessible.”

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clinton-trust-unpopular_us_57969600e4b0d3568f84486d

The article is worth the read at the link.

How it became cool to hate Hillary Clinton... (Original Post) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 OP
Misogyny has always been "cool" rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #1
Bingo greatlaurel Jul 2016 #2
Truth is succinct rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #3
K&R 2naSalit Jul 2016 #4
I had been thinking that treestar Jul 2016 #5
Good point PatSeg Jul 2016 #7
K&R betsuni Jul 2016 #6
It is amazing how many young "progressives" buy the Arkansa Project wildeyed Jul 2016 #8
That chart Priebus is standing next to says it all. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #9
Give up the martyr pose, please. It doesn't help win. It's inauthentic. There are stories that highprincipleswork Jul 2016 #10
Great post. bigwillq Jul 2016 #11
That's the point this post is trying to make. I was never a huge HRC fan, but acting as if she's Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #12
Well, on that I'm with you. And I'm glad that the overwhelming spirit of yesterday, highprincipleswork Jul 2016 #14
And they ignore her record Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #13
kick Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #15

treestar

(82,352 posts)
5. I had been thinking that
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jul 2016

Hillary hasn't done anything to deserve not being trusted. She's just had more accusations thrown at her and unproven. People should not let this influence them. Also making the accused person claim they didn't do anything wrong is wrong. I had a stupid relative doing that. So I said to them if I just make up something and accuse you, you are willing to accept that you have to prove it untrue?

PatSeg

(45,999 posts)
7. Good point
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:05 AM
Jul 2016

People tend to confuse accusation with fact. If we hear that someone is arrested or accused or indicted, in our minds we are apt to see him/her as guilty. Even if they are proven innocent (or not proven guilty), the tag of "guilty" tends to linger.

Few people have been accused as much as Hillary Clinton and the right knows exactly what they are doing. Perception trumps truth after awhile. "Well, if she is innocent, why is she accused so often of wrong doing or dishonesty?" Throw in some unflattering photos here and there - mission accomplished.

wildeyed

(11,240 posts)
8. It is amazing how many young "progressives" buy the Arkansa Project
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:08 AM
Jul 2016

disinformation hook, line and sinker. They are all up in arms about how biased the media is and conspiracy theories, yet they don't even check the facts behind the smear they use against Clinton.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
10. Give up the martyr pose, please. It doesn't help win. It's inauthentic. There are stories that
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jul 2016

have been baked, and there are stories that have merit. And there are things that would give Progressives of any stripe real pause.

But she's the nominee now, in all but final tabulation, and people are generally uniting behind her and extolling her good qualities, of which there are also many.

If Hillary and Co. can keep to a course that's even moderately Progressive, the world should be rosy and a better place.

But please, let's not act as if Hillary has never done anything that would give an honest Democrat pause.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
12. That's the point this post is trying to make. I was never a huge HRC fan, but acting as if she's
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jul 2016

some right wing nut job is just plain nuts, so you give it up.

The fucking primaries are over!!

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
14. Well, on that I'm with you. And I'm glad that the overwhelming spirit of yesterday,
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 01:29 PM
Jul 2016

for me anyway, was of hope and unity and a party and people that are acting in a way so far more worthy than Republicans that this elections SHOULD BE an easy choice.

I know it won't be. Will require hard work. But it will be worthwhile work, and looks like we'll be at it together.

Johnny2X2X

(17,852 posts)
13. And they ignore her record
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jul 2016

Hillary should be one of the most beloved figures in our country, she's spent her entire career helping people. It's a career marked by service to those who need help. But people want to see her as evil because she's been in the public eye for so long.

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