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Isn't calling for the Russians to hack a US computer...... (Original Post) mrmpa Jul 2016 OP
Definitely sounds like advocating a crime against a US government agency. Koinos Jul 2016 #1
The DNC is a government agency? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #5
The State Department is. NuclearDem Jul 2016 #6
Putting aside for a moment that hacking is in and of itself a federal crime... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #18
Yep SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2016 #20
State Department is, though. Iggo Jul 2016 #7
It was privately owned and operated. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #19
Depends on whether he was referring to State Department "missing" emails. Koinos Jul 2016 #8
not specifically treasonous, as that requires actually taking up arms. unblock Jul 2016 #2
That is silly. yourpaljoey Jul 2016 #3
He should 2naSalit Jul 2016 #4
Would that be considered Sedition? blue neen Jul 2016 #9
It's definately a crime of some sort....... mrmpa Jul 2016 #10
This just demonstrates how wholly unqualified Trump is for the Presidency. blue neen Jul 2016 #11
it demonstrate his unseriousness maxsolomon Jul 2016 #12
That's all The Donald's got. blue neen Jul 2016 #16
The Putin-supporting traitors on Free Republic and elsewhere think this is A-Ok! Oneironaut Jul 2016 #13
... napkinz Jul 2016 #14
Oooh. That would make a really good poster blue neen Jul 2016 #15
I would like to point out edhopper Jul 2016 #17
LOCK HIM UP! napkinz Jul 2016 #21
Because he doesn't live in Russia Worktodo Jul 2016 #22
 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
18. Putting aside for a moment that hacking is in and of itself a federal crime...
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

I'm confused. I haven't been watching much news lately in an effort to protect my mental health. After I posted my response I heard about Trump hoping the Russians could find Hillary's "missing emails". It's the treason thing I was asking about in the post you replied to.

Correct me if I'm wrong:

Hillary Clinton did not once use State Department computers to send or receive emails. She used her private server exclusively.

The "missing emails" Trump referred to are the ones deleted from the aforementioned server, which no longer exists.

Her private server didn't belong to the US Government, State Department, or any other entity one could be charged with treason against.


Treason? How?

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
19. It was privately owned and operated.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jul 2016

Of course, hacking is a federal crime, but treason for hacking a privately owned and operated server?

Therein lies my problem with public officials going off the reservation in their attempts to maintain total privacy.

Koinos

(2,792 posts)
8. Depends on whether he was referring to State Department "missing" emails.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:17 PM
Jul 2016

Although advocating cyberhacking is probably a federal crime in any case.

ETA: Definitely referring to Clinton's emails as Secr4tary of State:

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?post_id=10207763114496909_10209985105285290#_=_

unblock

(52,196 posts)
2. not specifically treasonous, as that requires actually taking up arms.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:08 PM
Jul 2016

but it probably is a violation of federal law.

incitement or conspiracy to commit a felony.

not that any prosecutor would pursue such a case.

yourpaljoey

(2,166 posts)
3. That is silly.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jul 2016

Hack what from where?
At any rate, it is likely Wiki has those emails.
If the Russians hack Wiki, who cares?

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
4. He should
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:13 PM
Jul 2016

be arrested for all kinds of offenses but he probably won't be because... well, you know.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
10. It's definately a crime of some sort.......
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:28 PM
Jul 2016

treasonous isn't there a cyberwar going on? Sedition, possibly. I don't know but it is criminal in nature.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
11. This just demonstrates how wholly unqualified Trump is for the Presidency.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:37 PM
Jul 2016

He has no comprehension or respect for basic and complex laws.

Donald Trump is not even qualified to be dog catcher.

Oneironaut

(5,492 posts)
13. The Putin-supporting traitors on Free Republic and elsewhere think this is A-Ok!
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 01:33 PM
Jul 2016

This is how low American politics has gotten: Americans are happy that a foreign power is trying to rig our election for its own interests.

edhopper

(33,570 posts)
17. I would like to point out
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 05:31 PM
Jul 2016

it has never been shown that Clinton's servers were anything but secure and never hacked.

We can't say the same about many official servers.

Worktodo

(288 posts)
22. Because he doesn't live in Russia
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jul 2016

In the US you can say whatever you want. In Russia, journalists that Putin doesn't like get blown up by car bombs. That's why Trump can say he admires Putin as "a great leader." Remember it's not treason if the president does it, and that's why you don't vote Trump.

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