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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmerican psycho: Is Donald Trump clinically deranged?
Truly self-made billionaire Michael Bloomberg deftly suggested that Donald Trump is mentally unstable when New Yorks former mayor called on Americans to elect a sane person as President.
Doing so at the Democratic National Convention, Bloomberg made public what many wonder in private: Is Trump certifiable?
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Cross Trump and prepare to be on the receiving end of threats, including of physical violence. Previously, he had directed them at protesters. Now, the would-be President has targeted a former mayor and one of Americas most respected businessmen and philanthropists.
Trump is forever vindictive. The previous week right after the Republican Convention he announced that he would create a SuperPAC to defeat at the polls former primary rivals Sen. Ted Cruz and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, both of whom pointedly refused to endorse him.
Of course, add pathological lying to the mix.
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/donald-trump-american-psycho-article-1.2731580
I vote: Clinically deranged.
edhopper
(33,576 posts)about Phil Collin's second albumn?
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)edhopper
(33,576 posts)I was referencing the movie American Psycho.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)or "i'm just going to go fuck myself".
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)over dinner at Dorsia? They have great sea urchin ceviche
edhopper
(33,576 posts)you couldn't get a reservation at Dorsia's?
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)results of a 30 day psychiatric hold on him. I think he's got a lot of really deep and nasty issues.
safeinOhio
(32,675 posts)Fucking nuts.
lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)angrychair
(8,698 posts)YES. Next question?
spanone
(135,831 posts)or deranged
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Mental illness is characterized by -dysfunction- and -distress- for the afflicted person.
Trump isn't dysfunctional, but rather successful, and for all his deviant messaging, he doesn't seem to suffer any distress.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)of a number of what we call mental disorders. They are not, frankly, "mental" - because they involve the whole body, but anything in the current DSM can surely exist with the person still being "high functioning" and even successful.
In fact, the unsuccessful examples we don't generally hear about. It's the successful maniacs that make their mark, like, let's say Hitler.
Successful? Well, very much so, up to a point. Mentally secure? I can't imagine any one among us saying so.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Their sociopathy permits them to ignore the point of view and suffering of others in favor of achieving the CEO's primary goals.
Some of us on DU have noticed details about the Donald's speech, both content and delivery, that indicate he may have several mental health issues, including narcissism and perhaps episodes of mania. I don't have as much professional experience on this as some other DUers, but I've encountered it in my nursing work and personal life.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)So that's -very- meaningful, I am sure.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)IOW: do not expect a 70-year-old man to make lasting changes in his personality, as the habits are too deeply ingrained and not recognized by the person in whom they reside.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)Inability to change is one of the classic traits of the narcissist. They only seek treatment during the comparatively rare bouts of depression, in which they experience regret for their actions and can feel empathy for others. Then, when their self esteem recovers and they start believing their own bullshit again, they invariably leave treatment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/definition/con-20025568
Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for admiration and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of ultraconfidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.
That's what we've been seeing since Thursday: a massive crack in Trump's self esteem, and he's lashing out against his critics in every malevolent way that he can. If we're lucky, the slide will accelerate into depression and withdrawal, and at that moment I think he can be induced to leave the race. That's not the best thing for the Democrats, who now appear to be coasting toward a landslide, but it is in the best interests of the nation as a whole.
No Vested Interest
(5,166 posts)I believe, unfortunately, that he's past that point, due to the involvement and support of his "team", including his adult children and managers.
They are now so invested in his race that would/will cover for him and persuade him to carry on, even when he is really no longer able.
We've seen this happen with entertainment celebrities surrounded by team members and hangers-on, so that the entertainers linger on in the business, at lessened capacity.
We also saw it happen in the 1980's, when the President of the US continued in office long past his capacity.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)It is those people around him who rebuild Trump's self-esteem when it is bruised or crushed, not unlike Hitler's "secretary circle."
We may be able to see signs of a declination in advance, when close associates begin fleeing the bunker, so to speak.
We may already be seeing some of the signs, as Trump has a very busy two day week scheduled this week, while his running mate continues to carry a full load.
randome
(34,845 posts)But I do think he will suffer a meltdown before November and then we may gain some insights into his deeper psychological makeup.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)trainload of psychopathology underneath that rabid wombat.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There is also the fact that much of the evidence people are using in their speculation is based on Trumps bigotry. Finn has a great piece how Wrong Does Not Mean Crazy which focuses on how problematic it is to equate ideas we disagree with as evidence of the idea holders mental instability.
I cannot say strongly enough that bigotry is not a mental illness. It is also important to remind you that Trump doesnt exist in a vacuum. He didnt reach where he is by donning the guise of a supervillain (mo matter how abhorrent many of his ideas are) and threatening his way to the nomination.
https://crippledscholar.wordpress.com/2016/07/28/on-the-medicalization-of-donald-trump/
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)lay money on it
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Something in his face the first time I saw him reminded me of early dementia.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)For the clinical determination, a good CAT Scan might to the trick.
Which could turn out to be ironic for him, given the way that he bullies disabled people.
Gothmog
(145,198 posts)imanamerican63
(13,787 posts)think there is something rotten in Trump's mind!
Henhouse
(646 posts)This is and actual photo of Trump's mom. Not a photoshop. Not to speak ill of his dead mother but this gives that thing on his head new context. Very creepy.