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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:04 PM Jul 2016

It’s Not Just Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders—The Whole World Is Turning On Its Elites

It’s Not Just Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders—The Whole World Is Turning On Its Elites

by Yuri Vanetek at the Daily Beast

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/07/30/it-s-not-just-donald-trump-and-bernie-sanders-the-whole-world-is-turning-on-its-elites.html

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And in the distant Caucuses, the republic of Georgia, where nearly 70 percent of the population claims unemployment, famous opera singer Paata Burchuladze has embarked on a campaign to be the country’s next prime minister. With an endorsement from United States, the newly-established State for the People party aims to “completely change the paradigm of the relations between the people and the state.” As he sees it, Georgia’s political class, specifically the Georgian Dream party, has failed to serve the interests of average people.

He’s tapped into something powerful by challenging leadership that has been accused of imprisoning political foes and attempting to free political prisoners involved in terror acts.

While the policy proposals of each of these movements may vary significantly, the grievances animating these campaigns are broadly similar. Voters are making a deliberate decision to reject an elite ruling class in favor of political outsiders more attuned to the concerns of ordinary citizens.

Far from a threat to the neo-liberal order, these insurgencies may be the key to retaining the integrity of our political systems.

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applegrove

(118,677 posts)
3. I agree. But we are talking about the educated and political elites. They
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jul 2016

followed the neoliberal line for 20 years. Now they are realizing they lost the people and lives were not always made better by their policies. Time to do a little reconnection with the people.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
2. Watched 'The Big Short' on Netflix last night. I have watched Frontline and other
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jul 2016

specials on what the Wall Street elites, hedge funders etc. did in 07-08.

I gotta tell ya', I am NOT looking for a re run of that. I can't imagine our financial world with Trump.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
8. Oh I am pro trade. But it has got to not be accompanied by austerity
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jul 2016

and tax cuts for the rich and deregulation of all markets. Liberal is the way to be. That way all people participate in the benefits of trade. Thankfully Hillary has moved in that direction.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
6. God this narrative is getting obnoxious.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jul 2016

This isn't the rise of some "anti-establishment" sentiment; it's the rise of nationalism, fascism, and xenophobia across the world, and labeling it as some virtuous popular revolt against "the elites" is just playing right into the narrative pushed by lying, racist scumbags like Le Pen, Farage and Trump.

Farage convinced some of the most EU-dependent constituencies of the UK that the EU and immigrants were the source of their problems, and not the terrible economic decisions of the Conservative government. Republicans have been convincing people to vote against their best interests in this country for years.

Populism in its current form is an absolute joke, used almost exclusively as a tool by demagogues to convince absolute morons without a shred of understanding of the complexities of finance, international relations, governance, science, and economics that they somehow by simple virtue of being the majority, inherently are better qualified to make judgments on these issues than the people who have studied and practiced them their entire lives. It's an anti-intellectual, irrational, fear-driven scam, and it's getting really old having to treat the people who fall for it like the special, innocent snowflakes they've convinced themselves they are.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. Wrong it is the rise of BLM and Occupy Wall Street, you can deny reality all you want to.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jul 2016

Cute you pretend this is all about the BREXIT. Your last paragraph says it all about you and your own narrative.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
9. What, that I think people who believe in ghosts, the Illuminati and dihydrogen monoxide poisoning
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jul 2016

are prone to making catastrophically-stupid, ill-informed decisions when lied to by demagogues? Or that I don't think "I'm mad as hell" is an adequate substitute for a comprehensive, practical, rationally-informed set of policies for addressing major problems?

Sorry, populism is a fucking scam. OWS has been dead for years (because, again, "I'm mad as hell" wasn't a model of governance or policy, and just a temporary emotional outburst with no lasting impact), and "populism" has brought Donald Trump within one step of acquiring one of the largest nuclear arsenals in the world. Republicanism is not the same thing as direct democracy, and for good goddamn reason.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. CTs are dead, you can pretend this is all a nice CT to wrap it up under a nice bow but that is wrong
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jul 2016

Yeah you don't like populism, we all know by now. OWS is STILL putting people back in their homes, but you probably had no idea.

So the revolutionaries should have just stood down, since British taxation was just a giant CT and they really wanted respectable wages? Revolutions are cyclic in nature, that you do not understand how they work is something you will have to deal with.

CTs...how DU2. The rest of the world doesn't work in the way you pretend it does.

applegrove

(118,677 posts)
11. "I don't mind that you are rich; I mind that you are buying my government"
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:03 AM
Aug 2016

was on a sign during Occupy Wall Street. It is as supported now as it was then. I think it is natural for people to go tribal when they are weaker. Someone like Trump counts on it. Someone like Hillary appeals to the strength and hope for the future in those that are suffering. With liberal policies that will help the middle class grow. Not neoliberal policies. There is no reason why kick ask union laws could not have been written into trade agreements. The world is ours to remake. Not the right wing elite's.

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