New Miss Teen USA from Texas will keep crown after using racial slurs online

[TexasTowelie]

The newly crowned Miss Teen USA from Texas was receiving harsh criticism Sunday over a series of online posts she wrote that used racial slurs.

Karlie Hay, 18, of Tomball won the Teen USA title Saturday night in Las Vegas. Shortly after the pageant ended, a Twitter user posted a screenshot of tweets that included the N-word -- and a variation of it -- that Hay had sent to some of her acquaintances in January 2014 and July 2013.

The Miss Universe Organization, which owns the Miss Teen USA pageant, issued a statement Sunday evening condemning Hay's words, but the organization will also be "supporting her continued growth" and allow her to keep her crown.

Hay issued a series of apology tweets Sunday night.

Read more: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/headlines/20160731-new-miss-teen-usa-from-texas-will-keep-crown-after-using-racial-slurs-online.ece

[font color=330099]The statement by The Miss Universe Organization that they will allow Miss Hay to keep her crown is appropriate since the operating company for the pageant is owned by Donald Trump.[/font]

[brettdale]

1. I bet ya she will end up at Faux.

Olielly and hannity will take her under their wing.

[Proud liberal 80]

4. Olielly and Hannity will blame it on

Rap music. And in this instance they are probably correct. Unlike when they use this same defense for racist kids.

[BlueMTexpat]

2. This! Is! Outrageous! eom

[Proud liberal 80]

3. As a black guy

I don't think she was being racist. She was using it like many other kids. I am not saying it's right, but I do not think she was using it to be racist. This is one instance where the media can blame rap music and the entertainment industry. Unlike when the right wing media uses the same excuse to defend racist kids for using the word, like the Oklahoma fraternity. It is all about intent, you can tell when someone is using it to be racist or when someone using it to be cool. Both are wrong though.

[Lochloosa]

6. As a white guy

I thought the same thing. I have 5 sons, all over 18 now, and this type of speech was common a few years ago. I had a few heart to hearts with the kids about this and was I was not going to tolerate it in my house. I also think it's a cultural thing advanced by the music and entertainment industry. Thankfully, it seems to be phasing out.

[7962]

8. Its "being phased out"? it sure doesnt SEEM like it around here.

But GA is usually late to the "trends" anyway. But I hear it CONSTANTLY in even the most simple conversations

[Skittles]

45. if I heard it I would call it out

sorry, no, I do not want to hear that

[7962]

46. Well, you've got more guts than I. You'll likely end up with your ass beat

I'm sure not about to walk up to a bunch of 20-somethings and tell them to stop using it!

If anything, I hear it MORE today than 10 yrs ago

[Skittles]

48. LOL

jeez, maybe they use it around you because they know you find it acceptable

[7962]

50. I'm talking about random people, smart guy!! I WISH i was still in my 20s

oh, the different choices i would make.......

[Skittles]

51. I would TRASH "random people" for talking like that

that's just GARBAGE

and I am NOT a GUY

[7962]

52. In that case YOU might get away with it.

But these days just walking up to a bunch of strangers throwing the word around and telling them off is not very safe. At the least they'll laugh at you. Regardless of whether they're white, black or whatever.
Some people will hurt you just for looking at them!
Only times I have said something; I've been around tenants of rental units I help manage talking shit among themselves and said something to them, since i did kind of know them. They just laughed at me. Once I was asked if i was the language cop, another time I was told "who the hell are you?", etc
After that, screw 'em. Let em show their ignorance

[Skittles]

53. I would not give a fuck if they laughed or sneered

the important thing is to let people know YOU DON'T CARE FOR IT......SILENCE = AGREEMENT

I am DONE here.

[uponit7771]

15. On what planet is the general use of the n-word been "phased out"? She wasn't using it in specific

... to her friends it was for general consumption where she hasn't gained the benefit of the doubt.

It was really stupid, I don't give her the benefit of the doubt... I don't know her

[rug]

7. Especially when the tweets are from a 15 year old Tomball, Texas.

[marble falls]

10. Bingo.

[uponit7771]

14. Soooooo, rap music came up with the N- Word? Also, she somehow has the benefit of the doubt...

... from the general public?

tia

[Proud liberal 80]

21. No rap music didn't come up with N word

And I usually hate it when people use that as an excuse for when a racist kid uses it. But rap did come up with the way she used it. Both are wrong, but I didn't see racism with her usage.

[metroins]

26. Training Day the movie

Also made it pretty mainstream the way Denzel used it.

[uponit7771]

28. So the way she used it wasn't used BEFORE rap music? (not a trick question)

[Proud liberal 80]

37. Probably was

But rap music made it common, popular, and acceptable. Again, I normally hate it when this excuse is used by the right wing media to justify a racist usage of the word. But in this case I can really see it as an excuse.

[uponit7771]

41. K, so it wasn't COMMON before rap music?!?! Richard Pryor? Red FOX!?!? I'm dating myself here...

... but to intimate rap music spread the use when Richard Pryor was saying it on SNL and the Late Show is ... well... you know

[Proud liberal 80]

42. Richard Pryor and red foxx

Weren't marketing to suburban white kids like rap in the 90's was.

[7962]

47. And there you have it.

[independentpiney]

25. Read the linked article and look at the screen shot

that's why the general public is giving her the benefit of the doubt.She used it the same way many teenagers use it, or at least used it a few years ago, mostly referring to friends. I don't know if it's used as much anymore. But the poster you replied to is absolutely correct that rap music and associated entertainment popularized the word in a non-racist way among younger people. If that's taken power away from the word, that's a good thing, even if as an older person, I'll never be comfortable with it.

[uponit7771]

30. WHICH "general public"? tia

[independentpiney]

32. I was responding to your use of 'general public'

so you tell me, which 'general public'.

[uponit7771]

34. Not mine, I don't know where the use of those words outside of close relationships is being used in

... the way she used it and no...

Rap music did NOT normalize the use of the word AT ALL outside the context of the community the word has effected the most.

I don't know what world people live in, but there's no way they'd go to work saying any inflection of the n-word in any context.

It sounds like white splaining to me (don't care what the person's color is) to intimate that its ok to use the word outside of the context that even that generation called defined or that it shouldn't be offensive to blacks like me.

This had to be explained to Gweneth Paltro also, I don't know her ... no way i'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

[independentpiney]

38. Well I guess we live in different worlds

In my worlds I heard it and saw it used on myspace and facebook by teenagers of every ethnicity in their interactions. I saw it in an area that was 98% white, and the same after moving to a much more diverse area. If rap and related entertainment wasn't responsible for the spread of it's usage, what do you propose was? Notice I didn't and haven't said it 'normalized' it, I've said it 'popularized' or 'spread' it's use. Please, no straw men.

[uponit7771]

40. Sigh, If I go to work and use the word outside of the context that even you describe (which I don't

... agree its EVERY or even MOST teenagers) I would be fired and I'm black.

So NO.... it's usage has NOT been "spread" beyond some anecdotal acknowledgements ... there's no facts backing that up.

I don't read anyone using those words any FB pages I read... and again I'm black...

I don't know anyone black who would be OK if Donald Dump used the word cause it was popular on FaceBook

Also, popularized and spread or aspects of normalized...

But even using your description where in the world is this kind of language popular than among close friends or in the black community?!!?

Again... Gwenyth Paltro is a prime example... she used the word outside her circle of friends ... then got lambasted for it.

Ok...

There's a definitive context for the word, use it outside of such and then its disingenuously asking people to give one the benefit of the doubt.

[independentpiney]

43. I think you're actually responding to a different thread?

The one about people using it at work? This thread has nothing to do with using it in the workplace. I am not defending it's usage at all and particularly anywhere outside the black community. What I am doing is not getting outraged that a white future beauty pageant winner used the word as a term of affection in her social media posts when she was 15. She also called a friend 'bitch' in one of the posts. Teenagers post stupid stuff like that online and regret it years later when they mature . If you've never seen it on facebook I guess you've either not seen too many teenagers facebook feeds or you run with a higher socio-economic class than I do.

Donald Drumpf is well outside the age group that uses it non-pejoratively. I don't know any one who would be ok with him using it for any reason.

But even using your description where in the world is this kind of language popular than among close friends or in the black community?!!?

Not sure if you're asking where it's popular outside of or inside of the black community, but St Pete , Florida, with the younger crowd, it was common with both a couple of years ago, and I still overhear it being used fairly often.

I have to get off the laptop, so don't take it as an offense (or victory) when I don't respond if you reply. Have a good day and thanks for your replies.

[Proud liberal 80]

39. Well, growing up as a black teenager in the 90's

It was common in my world to hear white teenagers saying that word. Looking back it, it was dumb, but back then I didn't think anything of it.

Matter fact, it started with them saying the lyrics to their favorite rap songs.

Edit: and it wasn't just white teenagers. Hispanics and Asians, too.

[sakabatou]

5. *sighs*

[-Steph-]

11. If they had stripped her of her crown, it would have sent a strong message to young people...

That it's not okay to use the "N" word in any kind of capacity, ever.

[cherokeeprogressive]

19. Yeah because all young people look up to teen beauty pageant winners.

[-Steph-]

20. I wasn't trying to insinuate that all young people look up to teen beauty pageant winners...

I am simply stating my opinion that it would have sent a strong message to those that do enter these pageants or follow them, or for those that come across the story through some other means, that it's not okay to use that word.

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. It should be common knowledge the word is unacceptable.

It ain't though. That's a shame
The trouble I see in young people is the attitude "they do it, why can't I?" As long as some use the word others will too.

[3catwoman3]

29. A perfect example of the notion that...

"...just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

[cherokeeprogressive]

36. How do you propose to change that attitude in teenagers?

[jtuck004]

22. Millions do, and this teaches them that racism can be excused.

See, not only parents can fuck things up.

[LanternWaste]

33. You invented a premise no one else did! How adorable...

You invented a premise no one else did! How adorable that you pretend she implied "all young people" rather than observing merely the obvious.

[Eleanors38]

44. They are so beautiful, then that mouth opens, and all stuff tumbles out.

[downeastdaniel]

12. This captures the essence of Miss Teen USA, not worth watching let alone endorceing.

[maryellen99]

13. Trump doesn't own the Miss Universe Organization anymore

WME-IMG does.

[book_worm]

16. beauty pageants should become a thing of the past

[SwankyXomb]

17. Lyrics of "Secret Agent Man" seem relevant

Beware of pretty faces that you find
A pretty face can hide an evil mind

[maxrandb]

18. Hey, if it's acceptable in a Presidential candidate for a major political party

why not in a Miss Teen USA pageant.

This is another example of how Trump has already done damage to our country.

At least we can't say the Pageant Officials were "being politically correct"

[jtuck004]

23. Was there even a person of color in the competition? The five finalists looked liked

they had been bleached in the sun.

And to put that crown on that person's head while she had racist messages all over her facebook account makes me realize I need to stop suggesting to people that they no longer used racists terms.

I can't fight millions of people and kids being shown on national tv that we talk one way and act another.

[EX500rider]

35. Here:

[geek tragedy]

24. seems like she was engaged moreso in cultural appropriation rather than being a bigot.

the public humiliation should be enough

[Oneironaut]

31. 15-year-olds can do dumb things.

Even now, she's still a child. Hopefully she learned her lesson, but I agree with the poster above - she probably just thought she was being "cool" and "edgy."

[Hortensis]

49. This is what a "Miss Teen" anything looks like this day?

She looks like she's made up to compete for Melania's position.

[7962]

55. Well, its a pageant. They ALL do.

Its not a Spartan Race!

[oberliner]

54. She was 15 years old

And it's a fricking beauty pageant.

Screenshots of tweets from when she was 15? Come on now.

[GOLGO 13]

56. Pretty girl.