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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:02 PM Aug 2016

Burglar dies after 68-year-old homeowner ties him to tree with ‘multiple layers of masking tape’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/31/burglar-dies-after-68-year-old-homeowner-ties-him-to-tree-with-multiple-layers-of-masking-tape/

Nathanial Johnson had grown tired of the burglaries at his mobile home in the small town of Leroy, Ala., about 60 miles north of Mobile.

So the 68-year-old decided to take matters into his own hands Friday night by springing a trap, Washington County Sheriff Richard Stringer told Fox affiliate WALA-TV.

In an attempt to make it look like nobody was home, Johnson parked his vehicle at a neighbor’s home and returned to his abode and waited, according to Al.com.

Sitting near his back door, Johnson told police, he turned the lights off and placed a car mirror near a window so he could see what was happening outside, according to WALA.

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Burglar dies after 68-year-old homeowner ties him to tree with ‘multiple layers of masking tape’ (Original Post) steve2470 Aug 2016 OP
No charges as of yet. PeteSelman Aug 2016 #1
the tape and bindings must have been so tight to close his nose and... steve2470 Aug 2016 #2
I don't get why he taped up the intruder's head Orrex Aug 2016 #4
yea that's a puzzler steve2470 Aug 2016 #12
Don't people usually get charged wheniwasincongress Aug 2016 #7
Setting a booby trap is illegal Ex Lurker Aug 2016 #9
Even if not present, a "man trap" is illegal to set (shotgun with trip wire, etc.). Eleanors38 Aug 2016 #21
The guy shouldn't have talked about "springing a trap". Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #3
That's what he was doing. Igel Aug 2016 #19
And we know he is burglar and not a guest how? The Second Stone Aug 2016 #5
Going to the back of a dark house when there was no answer at the front door....... WillowTree Aug 2016 #6
Per the man who killed him. My point being what is the The Second Stone Aug 2016 #11
Burglary does not merit a death sentence. uppityperson Aug 2016 #8
No, but it's one of the risks of the profession. n/t cigsandcoffee Aug 2016 #10
As it is the risk of any profession. Or any hobby. Or simply eating any meal. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #18
No it doesn't, and this kind of thing is why GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #20
Could go either way... TipTok Aug 2016 #13
Sounds completely accidental, judging from the lack of details like 'and nose' when describing... Shandris Aug 2016 #14
if he used a gun to kill him, some here would praise him . . . as well as most RWers and DrDan Aug 2016 #15
Sounds like Depraved indifference to me. We'll have to see. nt stevenleser Aug 2016 #16
The "trap" phrase came from the cops. It's not illegal to sit in your home and grab a burglar. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #17

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
1. No charges as of yet.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:10 PM
Aug 2016

How can you tape up someone's entire head and not know you're going to suffocate them?

This whole "setting a trap" thing sounds like premeditated murder to me.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
2. the tape and bindings must have been so tight to close his nose and...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:13 PM
Aug 2016

constrict his chest, or cut off circulation (?).

Orrex

(63,213 posts)
4. I don't get why he taped up the intruder's head
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:25 PM
Aug 2016

Did the homeowner expect him to chew through the bindings?

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
9. Setting a booby trap is illegal
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:20 PM
Aug 2016

doubtful that a homeowner minding his own business in his own house would be.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. The guy shouldn't have talked about "springing a trap".
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:24 PM
Aug 2016

He should have just said he was at home, somebody broke in, and he was able to overpower the intruder but was panicking and taped him up a bit too enthusiastically. No grand jury would ever have indicted him.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
19. That's what he was doing.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:34 PM
Aug 2016

Most of the "booby trap" problems are things like setting up an arrow to shoot at the first person through the door. You're not at home so there's no risk to you, just to your stuff.

But Johnson was at home. The pictures show that his back door lock was broken. Johnson wasn't exactly wealthy--his trailer is really crappy looking from the outside.

The family's response is what most would expect--our side's right and good, their side is wrong and bad. The deceased "never bothers anybody" (apart from robbing their homes, I guess, stealing from the poor) and helps everybody (at least in this family). I have to wonder what the dead guy's family means by "resolve" this?

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
6. Going to the back of a dark house when there was no answer at the front door.......
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:08 PM
Aug 2016

.......and then breaking the lock on the back door to gain entry isn't indicative of anyone who's ever been invited as a guest to my house. Is that how your guests behave?

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
11. Per the man who killed him. My point being what is the
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:40 PM
Aug 2016

confirmation that this isn't a straight up murder by a liar? He may very well be a burglar, but we have the word of an admitted bushwhacker, a man who laid in wait and killed him. There is only the evidence of his word. It needs to be investigated.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
18. As it is the risk of any profession. Or any hobby. Or simply eating any meal.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:05 PM
Aug 2016

As it is the risk of any profession. Or any hobby. Or simply eating any meal.

So pointing towards the subjective measurement of risk seems irrelevant... at best.

GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts)
20. No it doesn't, and this kind of thing is why
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:27 PM
Aug 2016

vigilantism should neither be practiced nor encouraged in real life.

 

Shandris

(3,447 posts)
14. Sounds completely accidental, judging from the lack of details like 'and nose' when describing...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:57 PM
Aug 2016

...how he was taped to the tree.

Breaking and entering is a life or death job. Don't take it unless you don't mind not coming home literally any night.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
15. if he used a gun to kill him, some here would praise him . . . as well as most RWers and
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:59 PM
Aug 2016

all trump supporters

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
17. The "trap" phrase came from the cops. It's not illegal to sit in your home and grab a burglar.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:03 PM
Aug 2016

In many states it's perfectly legal to shoot someone who has broken in to your house.

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