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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:56 PM Aug 2016

I had an idea last night and I'm not going to vote for Hillary

HEAR ME OUT!

Sure, according to the record my vote will be cast for Hillary, but I think after I fill out all the down ticket D's, I'll let my 5 year old daughter fill in the bubble next to Hillary's name (I'll assist and double check) and send it into the scanner.

It's legal to take kids under 17 into the voting booth with you. During the Primaries and the last local election she went with me and even fed the ballot into the scanner and got her I Voted sticker.

How cool would it be for the generation of girls from 4-12 (or thereabouts) to participate in the historical vote. I think it'd be one hell of a civics lesson.

If it's a bad idea I'm sure y'all will let me know.

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I had an idea last night and I'm not going to vote for Hillary (Original Post) NightWatcher Aug 2016 OP
That seems like a really nice idea. Chemisse Aug 2016 #1
Grumble grumble grumble! Rex Aug 2016 #2
Nice idea! femmocrat Aug 2016 #3
Cameras and picture taking is a big no no MagickMuffin Aug 2016 #28
How about outside? With a Hillary poster? femmocrat Aug 2016 #29
As long as they are 100 ft from the main entrance MagickMuffin Aug 2016 #32
I would have her practice beforehand. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #4
She can read Hillary and we've taught her that Trump is bad NightWatcher Aug 2016 #6
On Texas voting machines, you choose the candidates, christx30 Aug 2016 #33
That is a ... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #5
Introduce a Child to Civic Involvement During a Historic Election? TheBaculumKing Aug 2016 #7
Hate to rain on the parade here SticksnStones Aug 2016 #8
It's Florida, the poll workers are in their late... NightWatcher Aug 2016 #9
Well, I think it'll be a memorable moment for your daughter SticksnStones Aug 2016 #11
Check election laws to make sure it is OK. liberal N proud Aug 2016 #10
I'm only bummed that I don't have a daughter so I can do that with her myself! 4lbs Aug 2016 #12
Yes TuxedoKat Aug 2016 #13
Wouldn't that be election fraud? no_hypocrisy Aug 2016 #14
Election Fraud? Definitely not. Thor_MN Aug 2016 #17
I was a Judge of Elections in Pennsylvania for ........ mrmpa Aug 2016 #24
My 11 year old voted for Hillary in the primary. Kber Aug 2016 #15
In Minnesota, FWIW, you have the right to assistance, if you choose. Thor_MN Aug 2016 #16
Why just girls? tavernier Aug 2016 #18
My mother took me in the voting booth... iandhr Aug 2016 #19
Cool idea Dad! Soxfan58 Aug 2016 #20
My one year old granddaughter will be voting with me Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #21
Make sure wallyworld2 Aug 2016 #22
Beautiful!7 AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #35
I LOVE this idea!!! I will do the same with my daughter. It IS a historic moment and I want my AgadorSparticus Aug 2016 #23
nice, my granddaughter just turned 18 and votes for the first time tomorrow tiredtoo Aug 2016 #25
EXCELLENT title. eom guillaumeb Aug 2016 #26
My grandson voted for Obama twice gwheezie Aug 2016 #27
I have brought my dog to the polling place milestogo Aug 2016 #30
I suppose if you can show up with a baby in your arms and vote... randome Aug 2016 #31
I did the same with my daughter during primary voting. Quayblue Aug 2016 #34
Great ideas all around AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #36
Found this Pacifist Patriot Aug 2016 #37

MagickMuffin

(15,943 posts)
32. As long as they are 100 ft from the main entrance
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:11 PM
Aug 2016

Again this is in Texas. I serve as an Election Judge and this is what we are instructed to do in our training.

LiberalFighter

(50,942 posts)
4. I would have her practice beforehand.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:08 PM
Aug 2016

You don't want to have the vote not count because it wasn't filled properly.

Better yet, have her start it and then you finish it.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
6. She can read Hillary and we've taught her that Trump is bad
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:16 PM
Aug 2016

She saw the Hillary ad that shows the children watching tv as Trump mocked the reporter with disabilities and said other horrible stuff.

"Who is that bad man?" She asked and thus started her civics lesson today.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
33. On Texas voting machines, you choose the candidates,
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:20 PM
Aug 2016

and there is a final CAST BALLOT button you press when you're done. I'm going to let my 8 year old daughter press that.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
8. Hate to rain on the parade here
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:20 PM
Aug 2016

Even though I think it's a wonderful idea but it may be illegal.

If you do, I wouldn't make a big deal out of taking a picture or making a big noise about it.

You could have some real strident poll worker who might disqualify the vote...could happen.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
9. It's Florida, the poll workers are in their late...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:24 PM
Aug 2016

She's helped put the ballot in the scanner in elections past.

liberal N proud

(60,335 posts)
10. Check election laws to make sure it is OK.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:27 PM
Aug 2016

Know before you go!

I think it is a beautiful idea. Our girls are of voting age, the youngest Hillary has the name because her sister was so impressed with Hillary Clinton when she was 1st Lady.

You don't want some poll judge challenging your vote. I know it is OK in nearly all states to take you child in the booth with you, but you just want to be armed with a statute covering it. While in the booth, they shouldn't be able to know what you are doing unless you have those damn electronic machines and there is virtually zero privacy.

Let your children be part of history. Something I did in 08 was take them out canvassing with me.

TuxedoKat

(3,818 posts)
13. Yes
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:36 PM
Aug 2016

I always bring my kids to vote with me. My two daughters helped me vote for President Obama. Now my oldest will be voting for the first time this fall. She was a Bernie supporter but will gladly vote for Hilary.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
14. Wouldn't that be election fraud?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:38 PM
Aug 2016

You're registered to vote. You signed the book. It's expected that you alone cast the votes. Your daughter is too young to legally vote. I know it's private, nobody will know. I'm a poll worker and I don't think your proposal is allowable.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. Election Fraud? Definitely not.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:00 PM
Aug 2016

Depending on state laws, it might be possible to claim Voter Fraud, but not Election Fraud.

I encourage you to look up the laws in your state, most states allow assistance when filling out the ballot, and assistance is usually very loosely defined. I am an election judge and in Minnesota, this would not be any sort of violation, unless the minor child was also an agent of one's employer, union or a candidate. I know some of Trump's agent act like children, but I doubt any are actual minors.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
24. I was a Judge of Elections in Pennsylvania for ........
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:19 PM
Aug 2016

12 years. I've had a lot of voters take their kid/s in with them, prior to the new election machines they would be in a machine that curtains covered them, so what went on in there was none of my business.

With the new machines where there's very little privacy, if the adult tells their child to push a button, I wouldn't have a problem with that, it's still their vote no matter who pushes it. The voter has the control over the casting of it. And by the way, it's still none of my business.

Kber

(5,043 posts)
15. My 11 year old voted for Hillary in the primary.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:39 PM
Aug 2016

And my at the time 11 year old son voted for Obama.

But at 9 I voted for Carter, so it's a long standing family tradition.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
16. In Minnesota, FWIW, you have the right to assistance, if you choose.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:52 PM
Aug 2016

I am an election judge and would not stop you. I doubt that anyone would notice, and if they did, it would be very difficult to challenge your ballot based on 5, 6 and 7 below.

VOTER'S BILL OF RIGHTS”
For all persons residing in this state who meet
federal voting eligibility requirements:
(1) You have the right to be absent from
work for the purpose of voting
in a state
or
,
federal
, or regularly
scheduled
election
without reduction to your pay, personal leave, or vacation time on election day for the time
necessary to appear at your polling place, cast a ballot, and return to work.
(2) If you are in line
at your polling place any time
before 8:00 p.m., you have th
e right to vote.
(3) If you can provide the required proof of residence, you have the right to register to vote and to vote on
election day.
(4) If you are unable to sign your name, you have the right to orally confirm your identity with an election
judge and to direct another person to sign your name for you.
(5) You have the right to request special assistance when voting.
(6) If you need
assistance, you may be accompanied into the voting booth by a person of your choice,
except by an agent of your employer or union or a candidate.
(7) You have the right to bring your minor children into the polling place and into the voting booth with
yo
u.
201
5
MINNESOTA ELECTION LAWS
136
(8) If you have been convicted of a felony but your felony sentence has expired (been completed) or you
have been discharged from your sentence, you have the right to vote.
(9) If you are under a guardianship, you have the right to vote, unless the
court order revokes your right to
vote.
(10) You have the right to vote without anyone in the polling place trying to influence your vote.
(11) If you make a mistake or spoil your ballot before it is submitted, you have the right to receive a
replacement b
allot and vote.
(12) You have the right to file a written complaint at your polling place if you are dissatisfied with the way
an election is being run.
(13) You have the right to take a sample ballot into the voting booth with you.
(14) You have the
right to take a copy of this Voter's Bill of Rights into the voting booth with you."

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
22. Make sure
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:16 PM
Aug 2016

to make a copy of this thread

then print it

and then put it in a envelop

and date it

then give it to her when she really can legally vote

write something sentimental on it too

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
23. I LOVE this idea!!! I will do the same with my daughter. It IS a historic moment and I want my
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:18 PM
Aug 2016

daughter to be as involved as possible. She is already a big Hillary fan. She did her living museum project and became Hillary 2 years ago. She will love it! Thanks for sharing this idea.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
25. nice, my granddaughter just turned 18 and votes for the first time tomorrow
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:20 PM
Aug 2016

I sat her down with my absentee ballot and let her look it over just to give her an idea of what it looks like etc. I had registered her a few months ago and she is fired up and exictedl

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
31. I suppose if you can show up with a baby in your arms and vote...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:04 PM
Aug 2016

...you can have a minor with you, as well. Good idea! Wish I'd thought of it when my daughters were younger!
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AwakeAtLast

(14,130 posts)
36. Great ideas all around
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:25 AM
Aug 2016

We have voting machines, but what I think I will do is put my hand on the "submit" button and put hers on top of mine.

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