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(40,202 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Just the kind of person GOPpers LOVE!
Lisa0825
(14,489 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)let's hope more join Susan Collins
Beartracks
(13,358 posts)At least, the GOP for what it has become in the last 30-40 years.
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BlueMTexpat
(15,475 posts)adigal
(7,581 posts)I hope so!
catbyte
(35,500 posts)enough
(13,436 posts)spooky3
(35,711 posts)chillfactor
(7,675 posts)t-rump has stepped wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the line.
True Dough
(19,509 posts)He was relatively well behaved yesterday. There was no way he could pull it off two days in a row. What a turd!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)True Dough
(19,509 posts)Both apply! Drumpf is dangerous.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)It seems like every other day I hear about a reboot or pivot.
Bob Buttons
(51 posts)downeastdaniel
(497 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)He is the worst candidate the GOP has ever put up. The GOP doesn't want him. He successfully hijacked their party, and they'd as soon just try to keep the legislature and maintain the status quo of railing against a (D) POTUS.
Nixon's historic 1972 victory against McGovern might just look like a close race compared to the Clinton - Trump result. It is in our interest if he stays in the race and more and more people are disgusted by him.
Bob Buttons
(51 posts)I'm also hoping we see big numbers for Johnson/Weld, would be nice to see a viable 3rd party emerge as a real contender. That could be the one positive outcome of this insane election cycle.
MADem
(135,425 posts)We support Democrats, not 3rd parties, for election here. And Libertarians are basically Republicans who want to smoke pot. They don't give a shit about anyone but themselves--they're not good people. "Antisocial and Selfish" should be their motto.
As for Johnson/Weld, the only reason they and that CIA guy are running is to get REPUBLICANS to the polls, to try and mitigate the bloodshed that will happen downticket.
FWIW, Bill Weld went to school with Bill and Hillary Clinton. He thought Bill was smart, but he thought Hillary was fooking BRILLIANT. His praise for her in past interviews has been nothing short of effusive.
Bob Buttons
(51 posts)After I posted it, I thought "hmm I wonder if I should've elaborated", then thought "naaaah they'll get it". Clearly I should've elaborated.
I reaaaallly get the impression that libertarians would split the republican party, and maybe take a little bit of the vote from democrats, but by and large not in any significant way. I don't know much about Weld, but Johnson was a republican if memory serves. Lots of republicans have talked about voting for the libertarian party instead. If you look at what libertarians stand for, like you said, they're largely a bunch of republicans who want to smoke pot. Sounds like a win-win to me!
Not to mention, if you get a third voice in the debates, my thinking is, there would be less time to spend on attacking each other and more time devoted to actual policy positions. When it comes down to it, I think we can all agree Clinton can win just about any debate she's in, as long as it's focused on issues and not mud-slinging. Which we all know Trump is great at, being the overgrown orangutan that he is.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Jesse Helms put a stop on his confirmation hearing over weed and other issues.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/1997/08/weld_vs_helms.html
He was a MA Republican (RINO to the die-hards) at the time. He went to law school with the Clintons (and thought Hillary was the smartest of the lot) and WJC thought the GOP would confirm him because of his party affiliation. Nutso Helms thwarted that idea.
Why anybody would want to drive more people to the polls who very well might vote downticket GOP escapes me. A third party at the debate would do that.
We don't just want to win the Presidency, we want the legislature too.
Clinton can handle herself at debate--she wins them, hands down, every time, because she's so in command of facts and she doesn't let an asshole get to her.
Libertarians are Republicans and Paulbots and selfish young men who want to smoke pot, by and large. They don't care about anything but themselves. We don't want them returning Republicans to the House or Senate.
The GOP voters are so disgusted, a lot of them just may stay home. I'd rather that be the situation as opposed to giving them an alternative/reason to go vote.
Bob Buttons
(51 posts)That's a fair point, I always think people will turn out no matter what, since that's the way I think about it. Then again, I don't think we've seen a candidate this unstable in either party, at least not since I've been voting. (Or alive.)
Trump just makes me nervous... I like the idea of a pressure release valve, someone who lets them vote for not-trump without feeling like they're betraying their principles. But I agree, I'd rather they stay at home!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Bob Buttons
(51 posts)calimary
(83,695 posts)It IS INDEED in our interest if he stays in the race and more and more people are disgusted by him.
mahannah
(893 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,537 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)This isn't some "Whoa people, it was just a joke!" comment; this was an incitement to violence for political gain. No amount of spin or explanation or clarification can erase the plain meaning of Trump's irresponsible statement.
Let's not let this one slide by; it's a quantum leap past his usual claptrap. This is as dangerous as leaving the town pyromaniac alone in the fireworks booth. Someone's going to get killed if Trump is allowed to let this stand.
catbyte
(35,500 posts)Andy823
(11,514 posts)They don't know what to do with him. If they give him the boot, his followers will go crazy, not to mention that President Obama has told them that's what they need to do, and they won't do anything he wants. This could be the last straw, but I doubt it. They will make excuses once again, avoid talking about what he said, and worry about losing not only the WH, and Senate, but possible the House.
No matter what they do they are screwed. As for Trump he could end up in jail, that might solve the problem, but again what would his crazy followers do?
calimary
(83,695 posts)I am, too. A lot of 'em luv-luv-luv their guns.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)to be held accountable no only from today also all the other outlandish statements / activities of past . They better stop with the don is an outsider ..... never held office crap . Don has been around too long and too many years behind the scenes along with characters like Manafort, Stone , Ailes and who know who else .
I hope the media holds him accountable and the lies exposed and TAXES released no more easy questions nd make him answer
PatrickforO
(15,009 posts)If the GOP doesn't abandon this evil clown, then they don't deserve to continue to exist as a party.
Initech
(101,334 posts)SansACause
(520 posts)The last thing we want is the GOP replacing the Cheeto Fuhrer with someone better.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Granny M
(1,395 posts)before I read DU.
One of these days, it's going to cost me a keyboard.
madokie
(51,076 posts)out there. I'm talking the 20 bucks and change ones. I've gone through so many and been using them so long I've grown to like them.
Because I know someone is going to type something that is going to make me spew coffee, soft drink, or an occasional beer everywhere. LOL
Locrian
(4,523 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)Paladin
(28,665 posts)ailsagirl
(23,531 posts)Gutsy!!
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Paladin
(28,665 posts)Heard him on TV last night. I certainly don't agree with all of Dershowitz's opinions and actions, but I'm sure as hell with him on this one.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)By Jason Easley
Aug 9th, 2016
The FBI has already been contacted after Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump called for violence against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton
The super PAC Democratic Coalition Against Trump has already contacted the FBI:
The Democratic Coalition Against Trump today reached out to high-level contacts in the Washington, D.C. field office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) to voice concerns about Donald Trumps call for violence against Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, and to argue that Trump should be arrested for attempting to incite political violence.
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The Democratic Coalition Against Trump immediately reached out to senior officials from the FBI to raise alarms about this call to violence, and to demand that Trump face felony charges under 18 U.S.C. § 879 for making these threats.
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08/09/fbi-contacted-trump-face-criminal-charges-violent-threat-clinton.html
Paladin
(28,665 posts)sheshe2
(86,456 posts)Thanks for the link, napkinz.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)It was nice when reading was essential.
MinM
(2,650 posts)Joisey Boy
(55 posts)Last edited Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:51 PM - Edit history (1)
Donald Trump must end his campaign for the White House in a reckoning with his own madness, while praying that nothing comes of his musing about an assassination of Hillary Clinton.
In the event that Trump fails to abandon his candidacy as he seems determined to the Republican Party, including vice presidential nominee Mike Pence, must instead abandon Trump for toying with political bloodshed. Trump hurtled past offensiveness into dangerous recklessness on Tuesday by suggesting violence as a means to prevent Clinton from nominating U.S. Supreme Court justices.
At a rally in North Carolina, Trump leveled a standard accusation that Clinton intends to essentially repeal the Second Amendment by naming justices who would eviscerate the right to purchase and own firearms.
Then, referring to gun owners, he said: By the way, and if she gets the pick if she gets the pick of her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I dunno."
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-hinting-assassination-article-1.2744789
I signed up just so I could post this! If elected Republicans don't un-endoorse Trump, and if the Party does not replace him, they should all be tried for treason!
napkinz
(17,199 posts)welcome to DU
just add the link to your post: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/trump-hinting-assassination-article-1.2744789
And thanks for the guidance!
athena
(4,187 posts)There is a four-paragraph limit when you're posting from another article. Please see this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=copyright
Joisey Boy
(55 posts)And the post has been edited!
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Hillary could outshoot him with her tongue alone, and I've never known anyone from Arkansas who couldn't handle a shootout. Trump will be certified insane just before the election to give the Repukes a "do - over". Bush v. Gore???
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)bulloney
(4,113 posts)They've sung that same old song in every presidential election that I can remember. Obama was supposed to have taken away our guns. Bill Clinton was supposed to have taken away our guns. Never happened, did it?
DinahMoeHum
(22,362 posts)n/t
get the red out
(13,528 posts)They are too ignorant of how the Constitution works to understand what it takes to change it! Repeal an amendment? PLEASE, it just couldn't happen.
FighttheFuture
(1,313 posts)sellitman
(11,656 posts)Bizzaro world.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They appeal to Housewife Martha and Lunch Pail Joe (those are old constructs, used with a full measure of mind you!) and they can and do easily cross ideological divides.
It is owned by Mort Zuckerman, who couldn't be classified as a conservative any day of the week. He is a billionaire, and he's donated to both parties, but he donates twice as much to Dems as he has done to the GOP.
Sample:
The irony is that Mort, himself, is Canadian born! Of course, he's not running for POTUS, either....
Laser102
(816 posts)find at the bottom of stagnant sewage ponds. They are without morals, values, ethics. They are loving this stuff. Feeding off of it like maggots on rotting flesh.
Baitball Blogger
(47,587 posts)Sure, that's as good as a euphemistic remark as any other.
SheriffBob
(552 posts)which is forbidden by the conus.
Congress is obligated to quell insurrections.
It's enumerated there, repubs please read it.
dlk
(12,195 posts)We can all remember how Sarah Palin put Gabby Giffords "in the crosshairs." It was far from a joke, yet no one held Palin accountable. Neither is Donald Trump joking about someone assassinating Hillary Clinton. He should be arrested. Certainly, any average person would be.
In his entire life, has Donald ever had to face the consequences of his actions? Remember how he remarked that he could shoot someone and get away with it? Apparently, he is putting that idea to the test. He is a very dangerous man.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Trump: "Second Amendment people..."
Typical Trump Voter: "He didn't really mean that! What the hell are you people in such an uproar over?"
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)I was looking for that tweet, but I had to paraphrase it when I couldn't find it