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cornball 24

(1,475 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:21 AM Aug 2016

Can anyone help me on this. Did Trump actually end his disgusting 2nd amendment statement

with "that would be a horrible day, folks"? If so where can I find testament to that and why is it not being reported via MSM? Thank you for your help.

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Can anyone help me on this. Did Trump actually end his disgusting 2nd amendment statement (Original Post) cornball 24 Aug 2016 OP
Here's the video: librarylu Aug 2016 #1
Thank you for posting the video. This is very scary stuff. He makes me sick to my stomach. cornball 24 Aug 2016 #17
The real telling part comes at the 6 second mark... lame54 Aug 2016 #18
He did and it completely debunks the argument that he was talking about voting against her. Stubborn Aug 2016 #2
I got into it in cyberspace librarylu Aug 2016 #6
Exactly and if you look at the rhetoric skip fox Aug 2016 #8
We're missed the big statement "Do the right thing" underpants Aug 2016 #9
Wow. I missed that. skip fox Aug 2016 #10
Posted the text below and posted in GD underpants Aug 2016 #15
Text underpants Aug 2016 #14
I'm sure this will be posted on "Great American Speeches" klook Aug 2016 #27
Ha! underpants Aug 2016 #29
It was a CALL TO ACTION on a DEATH THREAT... NurseJackie Aug 2016 #16
Even though it was surrounded thecrow Aug 2016 #20
Have that person look up safeinOhio Aug 2016 #24
Oh, and note the guy yawning librarylu Aug 2016 #3
And there is the couple that looked at either and smiled. Ugh. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2016 #5
Yep, in the red golf shirt underpants Aug 2016 #30
"That would be a horrible day" imo is VERY important. PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #4
The way he speaks he leaves whole sentences empty. joshcryer Aug 2016 #13
He said, "That WILL be a horrible day." nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #21
You're correct. I listened to the clip again. PearliePoo2 Aug 2016 #23
IIRC, he said WILL rather than WOULD. nt July Aug 2016 #7
Trump encouraging the continuance of the trump-pets' "kill her" meme sanatanadharma Aug 2016 #11
Holy shit, how is this cut out of all the clips I've seen? joshcryer Aug 2016 #12
He said, "That WILL be a horrible day"--i.e., it was presented as an inevitable outcome that tblue37 Aug 2016 #19
Yes! "will" gives it a different meaning than "would". Lars39 Aug 2016 #28
That's what he said, and it totally debunks the later Trump spin. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #22
The guy comes up with more excusses safeinOhio Aug 2016 #25
yet seems the repug core will vote for the slimeball no matter what he says. riversedge Aug 2016 #26
I think the "horrible day" reference True Dough Aug 2016 #31
I don't know why they ignore that which makes it perfectly clear he meant Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #32

lame54

(35,287 posts)
18. The real telling part comes at the 6 second mark...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:54 AM
Aug 2016

When the guy gives a big yawn during a Trump speech

 

Stubborn

(116 posts)
2. He did and it completely debunks the argument that he was talking about voting against her.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:34 AM
Aug 2016

Because, why would it be a horrible day for him if he won.

It would only be horrible if what they did was something else that a second amendment person would do.

librarylu

(503 posts)
6. I got into it in cyberspace
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:39 AM
Aug 2016

before the last election with a fellow who absolutely believed the Constitution gives citizens the right to overthrow the government - and then quoted the Declaration to prove it.

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
8. Exactly and if you look at the rhetoric
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:50 AM
Aug 2016

You'll see he had made a dark suggestion because he undercut it twice with "I doono" and then the "horrible day" comment.

In effect he is making the darkest suggestion and then disavowing his involvement in it. It's the same thing as wehne he say "I doon. That's what I' hearing," and such.

The entire statement, its logic (clearly referring to after she's elected), and the two distancing statements show clearly he meant exactly what we all heard and what the man in the background laughs at.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
9. We're missed the big statement "Do the right thing"
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:58 AM
Aug 2016

After he said "horrible day" he said something about "Do the right thing". THAT send chills up my spine.

skip fox

(19,357 posts)
10. Wow. I missed that.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:09 AM
Aug 2016

Then he drops his turd of a statement, makes two distancing remarks, then turns around and digs the knife in!

That's rhetoric with an edge.

Thanks.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
14. Text
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:18 AM
Aug 2016

(CROWD BOOING) If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is. I don’t know. But — but I’ll tell you what. That will be a horrible day. If — if Hillary gets to put her judges — right now, we’re tied. You see what’s going on.

XXX you see what’s going on? We tied because Scalia – this was not suppose to happen. Justice Scalia was going to be around for ten more years at least and this is what happens. That was a horrible thing.

So now look at it. So Hillary essentially wants to abolish the Second Amendment. Now, speaking to the NRA folks – who are great – when you – when you — and I’ll tell you, they endorsed me.

(APPLAUSE)

They endorsed me very early. My son’s a member. I’m a member.

If you – we can add I think the National Rifle Association, we can add the Second Amendment to the Justices – they almost go – in a certain way, hand in hand. Now the Justices are going to do things that are so important and we have such great Justices, you saw my list of 11 that have been vetted and respected.

(APPLAUSE)

And have gotten great. And they to a little equate – but if you don’t do the right thing, either you’re not going to have a Second Amendment or you’re not going to have much of it left. And you’re not going to be able to protect yourself, which you need.

klook

(12,154 posts)
27. I'm sure this will be posted on "Great American Speeches"
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:54 PM
Aug 2016

along with all of Drumpf's other masterpieces of rhetoric!

He got his point across to his minions, though. Looks like the FBI and Secret Service will continue to have their work cut out for them protecting the Democratic president.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
29. Ha!
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

I had to read through the whole thing. For my next trick in going to step on a rake.

Tttthhwwaaapp

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
16. It was a CALL TO ACTION on a DEATH THREAT...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:37 AM
Aug 2016

... there are no two ways about it. It is what it is. It's clearly what it is.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
30. Yep, in the red golf shirt
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:09 PM
Aug 2016

It was pretty clear what he thought Trump meant.

The guy in the blue/black baseball cap over Trumps right shoulder too.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
4. "That would be a horrible day" imo is VERY important.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:36 AM
Aug 2016

What did he mean? WHAT would be "horrible" Donald? Please explain! (hopefully to the secret service)

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
13. The way he speaks he leaves whole sentences empty.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:17 AM
Aug 2016

It can be interpreted either way, but he knows what he's saying because both interpretations, in his mind, are true.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
23. You're correct. I listened to the clip again.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:17 PM
Aug 2016

There is a important, distinctive difference between "would" and "will". (auxilliary verbs)

Would: Used to express contingency or possibility.
Will: Used to express determination, insistence, or persistence.




sanatanadharma

(3,701 posts)
11. Trump encouraging the continuance of the trump-pets' "kill her" meme
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:12 AM
Aug 2016

Trump said, "Nothing you can do folks"
Some audience shouts are then heard
Trump then says, "Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don’t know.”

Was he reacting to what he heard from the audience?
I'd certainly like to know what was shouted out from the audience.
It might clarify that Trump was reflecting (encouraging) the continuance of the trump-pets' "kill her" meme.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
19. He said, "That WILL be a horrible day"--i.e., it was presented as an inevitable outcome that
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:59 AM
Aug 2016

the event would occur.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
22. That's what he said, and it totally debunks the later Trump spin.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

Trump would not call it a "horrible day" if gun nuts stopped 2nd Amendment regulations through legal means. He was clearly implying that it would be "horrible" if gun nuts assassinated her.

The MSM? They're often cowards and downright stupid.

I still remember Katie Couric (on some morning show) repeatedly asking people if the second plane crash into a WTC building could have been another accident. Peter Jennings (may he rest in peace) also made some dumb remarks that day. In addition to being stressed by the attacks, some of the commentary that I heard that day made me strongly question the intelligence of some of our reporters.

I assume that someone like Jon Stewart would pounce upon and stay focused on the "horrible day" part of Trump's remarks.

True Dough

(17,303 posts)
31. I think the "horrible day" reference
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:33 PM
Aug 2016

refers to Hillary picking SC judges. Even though "horrible day" precedes Drumpf making referee to Clinton's appointees to the court, Drumpf is a disjointed speaker.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
32. I don't know why they ignore that which makes it perfectly clear he meant
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 01:47 PM
Aug 2016

assassinate. Start at about 5700 and it ends somewhere around 5730

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