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Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:25 AM

 

This is apocryphal and decidedly politically incorrect.

I heard it from someone who covered politics, ages ago.

JFK and Governor Pat Brown were speaking at some point after Brown defeated Nixon in the 1962 gubernatorial election. Brown supposedly said to JFK, well you beat him and I finished him. JFK responded (supposedly again) "yeah, but did anyone put a stake through his heart?"

This was after Nixon's news conference where among other things, Nixon accused the media of making him lose. (he lost by 4%)

I couldn't help but think of that story during the republican primary circus. And I still think of it in regards to Trump.

He needs a metaphorical stake through the heart of his political and business ventures.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:32 AM

1. If the poll numbers hold up to what they are today

 

Hillary will have driven the metaphorical stake through his heart.

She's an exceptionally qualified candidate and he is an exceptionally unqualified candidate, and this is becoming very clear to most voters.

Honestly, I'm more worried about 2018 and 2020 than 2016.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:59 AM

4. So am I. Trump is Pennywise the clown.

When he loses, his voters will nominate John Wayne Gacy. Bet on it, and be ready.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:42 AM

2. I think that metaphoric stake would be

his tax returns if he released them.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:45 AM

3. he'll be a right-wing brand like sarah palin, but he'll extract more money out of it.

he'll slap his name on a book and go on a pricey speaking tour.
he's already talked about creating trump tv.

in fact, he's probably talked more about what he'll do after losing than what he'd do if he won.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:01 AM

5. Trump is his own stake

Just like all extremists.

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Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:05 AM

6. Nixon- who may not have been an extremist in the same way,

 

(Brown called him psychotic by the way- and explained why)

went on to win the presidency after losing the presidential race of 1960 and the governor's race in 1962.

Fortunately for us, this will be Trump's one and only foray into politics.

And many extremists aren't there own stakes and manage to do horrific things for a long time.

Fortunately, Trump is quite inept, so I agree that he is his own stake.

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Response to cali (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:08 AM

7. Yes but in the end

Nixon committed political suicide as well.

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Response to Shankapotomus (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:49 AM

9. But his party was allowed to rise up out of their fetid coffins again, just like with Contragate

 

Dems get pretty timid when those stake are in their hands...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:18 AM

8. Let's be clear - even Trump wants Trump to be over

We know from defecting staffers that he never planned to be the nominee -- he was hoping to finish second as a way of building his brand.

Now, instead of getting a boost as the non-politician-who-almost-got-nominated, he's about to go down in history as the most incompetent and reviled candidate ever nominated by a major party, and he's going to do the one thing he hates doing -- lose, lose big, and lose publicly in a way that will never be forgotten.

And if that's not enough, he's actually already hurting his brand -- business at Trump properties is down, and the downturn seems directly linked to his campaign.

So mark it well: Trump (now 70, and not that healthy-looking) will retreat to the wingnutsphere and bilk the gullible, Palin-style, for a few more years. But this election will be a net loss for him, in terms of both money and reputation. He's over, and I suspect it can't come soon enough for him.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:37 AM

10. The Repubs hate losers nowadays

Look at how Romney was viewed when he was dithering about running this year. The base hates him for losing to 'The Kenyan". Trump will suffer the same fate if he loses to Hillary.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:44 AM

11. I hope come November he locks himself up at the top of Trump Tower Howard Hughes style....

....and never bothers to speak out or show his face in public for the rest of his life.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:54 AM

13. That's very kind and generous of you

 

I wish him to lose his Trump University case. I wish him charged criminally... on anything. I wish him a plague of locusts. I wish him humiliation and ignominy followed by obscurity. I wish him every possible business setback. I wish Melania would divorce him.

I'm not nearly as nice as you are.

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:57 AM

15. I wouldn't mind that, either.

But honestly, I'd be happy if he just goes away and never bothers the American people again.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:47 AM

12. nixon was a vampire. so I see no problem with the comment. nt

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Response to Javaman (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:55 AM

14. I always thought it was funny as hell, but in this day and age....

 

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Response to cali (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:07 PM

16. I know. today is not yesterday, sadly.

as all things are in their original context.

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