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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:08 AM Aug 2016

Am I going to hell?

The custodian at work has been a very vocal supporter of Trump for months now. It is an outsourced company and I am sure he is not paid much so I just keep my mouth shut. Plus politics is not really discussed at my work place as we are a big, diverse company.

Well apparently this guy has never voted before and yesterday he confirmed that I do vote and he asked me what he needed to do.

I told him to find his nearest voting location and show up on Election Day. And now I feel a little guilty. I grew up having the importance of civics instilled in me at home, in school and even church, which I no longer attend. So the going to hell question was rhetorical.

Should I correct myself next week? If I thought I could change his vote I would in a heart beat.

Have a great weekend

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Am I going to hell? (Original Post) GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 OP
You aren't going to hell but it is a pretty shitty thing to do. Statistical Aug 2016 #1
Everybody should vote - even Trump supporters. Chemisse Aug 2016 #2
Agreed. sarae Aug 2016 #3
Agreed Sherman A1 Aug 2016 #11
This is a Trump voter True Dough Aug 2016 #4
When they go low, you go high..... 😉 OnDoutside Aug 2016 #5
You gotta fix this this. grubbs Aug 2016 #6
Yea, you might want to fix that Siwsan Aug 2016 #7
3 opinions is all it took GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #8
Good. alphafemale Aug 2016 #10
Thanks GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #14
He has to register first. apcalc Aug 2016 #9
You'd never see a conversation like this on Breitbart SticksnStones Aug 2016 #12
No such mythical place, but, MineralMan Aug 2016 #13
Tell him he needs to register and where, Ilsa Aug 2016 #15
My plan exactly GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #17
Maybe once he gets registered athena Aug 2016 #16
Nah, it's fine. There's such a thing as being too stupid to vote. If dude is so lacking in, well underahedgerow Aug 2016 #18
You won't go to hell (because there's no god and no such place), but TonyPDX Aug 2016 #19
Doing it when I see him Tuesday. GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #20
You won't be sorry. Good luck. TonyPDX Aug 2016 #25
Next week tell him you checked and you were wrong, and give him the RIGHT info. Yo_Mama Aug 2016 #21
Give him the straight story. Better yet, give him a voter registration form struggle4progress Aug 2016 #22
If your state allows same day registration, you are good. Thor_MN Aug 2016 #23
you should never do this JI7 Aug 2016 #24
From the thread, I see you've made a decision PJMcK Aug 2016 #26
Thanks for the response GulfCoast66 Aug 2016 #28
Is Goggle broken in his part of the world? HipChick Aug 2016 #27
A custodian might have only a dumb phone and no computer. Warpy Aug 2016 #29
It is his responsibility to do it treestar Aug 2016 #30

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
1. You aren't going to hell but it is a pretty shitty thing to do.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:10 AM
Aug 2016

His vote isn't going to decide the election but being disenfranchised will leave him a bitter marginalized low information (non)voter in the future.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
2. Everybody should vote - even Trump supporters.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:13 AM
Aug 2016

My opinion is - if it's wrong for the other side to do it (such as with voter ID laws and harassment at the polls), then it's wrong for us too.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
3. Agreed.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:14 AM
Aug 2016

As much as I hate the idea of another vote for Trump, I'd be livid if someone did that to our side.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. Agreed
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:46 AM
Aug 2016

I believe the OP's should correct themselves offering an apology and give the proper method of registering and voting. I would also include giving this custodian a referral to iSidewith.com or another similar type of website in order to assist the custodian in learning more about the candidate they have discussed and how they might match up in positions.

Everyone should register and vote.

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
4. This is a Trump voter
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:17 AM
Aug 2016

So if he figures out that you misled him he is liable to beat you with a broom stick. Watch your back!

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
7. Yea, you might want to fix that
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:18 AM
Aug 2016

I'd just say to him, "I know you said you never voted, but I just want to make sure that you know you have to register to vote, first."

Otherwise, his reaction when he gets turned away at the polling place might be to blame you, loudly. to anyone who will listen.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
8. 3 opinions is all it took
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:20 AM
Aug 2016

Was always taught if I feel guilt about the way I treated someone there is a good reason. I will see him Tuesday and fill him in. I will also engage him about his vote. I know he will be shocked I am a liberal and he seems to like me ok. Maybe I can at least get him thinking.

Thank you for confirming my feelings.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
10. Good.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:46 AM
Aug 2016

If you have access to computers at work you might even be able to help him register.

It takes just a few minutes and you can even let him know where his polling place will be.

Your soul will thank you for it.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
12. You'd never see a conversation like this on Breitbart
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:53 AM
Aug 2016

Proud of this place today...

Well done community, well done.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
13. No such mythical place, but,
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:00 AM
Aug 2016

that was the wrong approach, I think. I'd have just left him to his own devices, frankly. Generally, I give people who aren't registered to vote the official form, regardless of their political leanings. I truly believe that voting is a real responsibility we should all observe.

However, I don't always engage in encouragement for people I think will vote for Republicans. I do give them the form, knowing that most won't take the time or bother to fill it out if they're not already voters. I do somewhat more for people who indicate that they'll vote for Democrats, though, of course.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
15. Tell him he needs to register and where,
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:03 AM
Aug 2016

But let him take responsibility for doing the rest. It will be empowering for him to figure out some of it on his own.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
17. My plan exactly
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

But I will also explain to him how the republicans govern against his best interest.

While we do not generally talk politics at work, this guy has for months now. Plus he asked my help.

athena

(4,187 posts)
16. Maybe once he gets registered
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:03 AM
Aug 2016

he'll start taking his vote more seriously and look into the two candidates more closely. You never know.

These days, the Clinton campaign is focused on registering voters. Sign up to volunteer at a registration table, and you could make up for his vote many times over. Check out:
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/states/
and enter your zip code to find volunteering opportunities near you.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
18. Nah, it's fine. There's such a thing as being too stupid to vote. If dude is so lacking in, well
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:18 AM
Aug 2016

everything, it's not your responsibility to make sure he votes for a nutjob like trump.

It's fine, well done!

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
19. You won't go to hell (because there's no god and no such place), but
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:26 AM
Aug 2016

you should set the guy straight about how to cast his vote. IOW, don't be a dick.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
21. Next week tell him you checked and you were wrong, and give him the RIGHT info.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:38 PM
Aug 2016

He will never, ever forgive or forget this if you don't - it is a bad thing to do and very counterproductive in terms of the future of the party.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
23. If your state allows same day registration, you are good.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 03:26 PM
Aug 2016

Here in Minnesota, that would be adequate advice.

PJMcK

(22,029 posts)
26. From the thread, I see you've made a decision
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:04 PM
Aug 2016

You've made an excellent ethical decision, GulfCoast66. You can clarify that he needs to register before a specific deadline (in some states). If the conversation is polite, you'll demonstrate American democracy by example.

In the United States, there's supposed to be more that binds us than divides us. You've shown that you personally, and Democrats generally, are made of better stuff.

As an aside, you note that this gentleman hasn't voted before. I wonder what percentage of Mr. Tump's supporters are unregistered. I know several loudmouthed right-wingers that don't actually vote. On the other hand, in the Republican primaries, Mr. Trump received over 14 million votes. I guess we'll see what his real support is on November 8th.

Oh, by the way, there is no hell so you're safe! Enjoy the weekend.

Warpy

(111,241 posts)
29. A custodian might have only a dumb phone and no computer.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:36 PM
Aug 2016

I'd have told him he needed to go down to the courthouse to register and hope he couldn't be bothered to.

That's the best I could do.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. It is his responsibility to do it
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 04:46 PM
Aug 2016

Misleading him sort of. Interesting if he would rely on your word. He might ask others ar actually find out from the board of elections. Very young voters seem to have these problems. We forget how innocent we were. I missed my first vote due to not realizing I should get an absentee ballot

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