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Trump Supporters Can't Wait to Get America Back (Original Post) Different Drummer Aug 2016 OP
john stewart reznor73 Aug 2016 #1
...and they didn't build it, either.... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #3
But the Republicans sure did build Trump up to be their candidate. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #5
So glad we have John to say what needs to be said. lindysalsagal Aug 2016 #12
Jon is right: American belongs to those who believe in America: and those stand up lewebley3 Aug 2016 #29
welcome to du niyad Aug 2016 #33
When America's middle class was thriving, unions were at their strongest. Trump is right to work. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #2
I just want to tell backwards, TransitJohn Aug 2016 #4
We, need to tell conservative that they are voting against their own interest: The lewebley3 Aug 2016 #30
Slavery, of course. Coyotl Aug 2016 #6
Fundamentally white supremacy; white male supremacy, means coat-hanger abortions follow. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #7
Democratic House Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee once remarked oasis Aug 2016 #8
Those Good Old Days Were When This Country Practiced Liberalism Leith Aug 2016 #9
The America they Think They Want Ccarmona Aug 2016 #11
And the right wing has never been the strength of our history. n/t Beartracks Aug 2016 #22
? BumRushDaShow Aug 2016 #16
You Are Right Leith Aug 2016 #20
When they lost themselves a link on the chain annabanana Aug 2016 #31
I have the solution, thanks to Douglas Adams (RIP) Fritz Walter Aug 2016 #10
There was a cult some years back that committed mass suicide keithbvadu2 Aug 2016 #13
Heaven's Gate. I remember that. The website stayed up forever after that too. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #14
Take away the one thing they can't live without Pakid Aug 2016 #15
Sounds Good Leith Aug 2016 #21
yes theyd love to get the country back as they feel they own the house , senate and the white house allan01 Aug 2016 #17
To when the top tax rate on rich was 92%? ErikJ Aug 2016 #18
92%!???!! That's cruel. Let's be reasonable. nikto Aug 2016 #19
HA! . . ~Compassionate Progressivism~ annabanana Aug 2016 #32
I seriously think Progressives should start to use that term nikto Aug 2016 #34
I've recommended before HeiressofBickworth Aug 2016 #23
Great meme Gothmog Aug 2016 #24
for Russia, that is ananda Aug 2016 #25
Get it back as in 2naSalit Aug 2016 #26
Internment brooklynboy49 Aug 2016 #27
Thanks for that. rivegauche Aug 2016 #28

reznor73

(17 posts)
1. john stewart
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:44 PM
Aug 2016


"You just want that person to give you your country back because you feel that you’re this country’s rightful owners.

The only problem with that, this country isn’t yours! You don’t own it! It never was! There is no real America!

You don’t own it!

You don’t own patriotism,

you don’t own Christianity,

You sure as hell don’t own respect for the brave and sacrifice of military, police and firefighters! Trust me!"
 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
29. Jon is right: American belongs to those who believe in America: and those stand up
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:32 PM
Aug 2016

for the American dreams.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
2. When America's middle class was thriving, unions were at their strongest. Trump is right to work.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:55 PM
Aug 2016

Does he not mean that either when he says it?

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
4. I just want to tell backwards,
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:58 PM
Aug 2016

conservative, rural, white voters (who kept telling me this during the Bush* years), "This is America! If you don't like it, get the fuck out!" #StrongerTogether

 

lewebley3

(3,412 posts)
30. We, need to tell conservative that they are voting against their own interest: The
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

GOP people are the ones sending jobs over seas.

oasis

(49,309 posts)
8. Democratic House Rep. Shelia Jackson Lee once remarked
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:12 PM
Aug 2016

"So many Republicans say they want America to return to the 'good old days'".

Jackson continued, "good for who?".

Leith

(7,806 posts)
9. Those Good Old Days Were When This Country Practiced Liberalism
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:27 PM
Aug 2016

Strong unions built the middle class and made everyone more prosperous. Strong public schools educated everyone, rich or poor. Strong liberal government kept roads and bridges from crumbling under our feet, kept water safe to drink, and helped the Allies defeat Naziism. Safety nets brought the elderly out of poverty and fed destitute families.

What do we have by doing it their way? An overbloated military that has bases (some of them secret) in countries we've never heard of. A disappearing middle class. Crumbling roads, bridges, schools, and country. People at each others' throats for not repeating the right phrases. Jobs shipped overseas.

We've all heard far too much of what they mean. They should just shut the hell up.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
11. The America they Think They Want
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:49 PM
Aug 2016

Had a top tax rate of 90% and incentives to re-invest in America.
Face it, History has NEVER been the strenghth of the right wing

BumRushDaShow

(128,257 posts)
16. ?
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:18 PM
Aug 2016
Strong unions built the middle class and made everyone more prosperous. Strong public schools educated everyone, rich or poor.


Unless you were black, when many unions kept us out, developments refused to sell houses to us, and schools refused to integrate... And if they did (by court order), it resulted in de facto segregation via white flight to suburbs that we couldn't live in, and those who stayed refused to hire black teachers at the secondary levels (including my mother) despite being qualified - this all under Truman, JFK and LBJ.

For some of us, the "good old days" are only starting to happen "now", and even with that, forces continue to try to keep it from us. "Liberalism" is good as a theory but it has rarely been applied to all.

Leith

(7,806 posts)
20. You Are Right
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:42 PM
Aug 2016

I'm from Flint, MI, and I've always attended school with all ethnicities. The factories had union members that were black, white, middle eastern, and hispanic (okay, not many Asians). That's what I'm used to so I forget that other places aren't the same.

Yes, these are the becoming the Good Old Days when everyone is included. We're not there yet - but today's Republicans will never get us there.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
31. When they lost themselves a link on the chain
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 12:37 PM
Aug 2016

on the chain

FOURTH and FIFTH VERSES

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Fritz Walter

(4,290 posts)
10. I have the solution, thanks to Douglas Adams (RIP)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 07:35 PM
Aug 2016

Between Election Day and Inauguration Day, we have to get these people off this planet -- let's face it: there's no other country that will accept Drumpf supporters, and they're not likely to willingly go to a place where 'Merican is not the official language.

So, let's ask Elon Musk and other aerospace entrepreneurs to build a giant spaceworthy Ark to cart them off to another planet. While the low-information types will gladly follow Drumpf aboard the vessel, there might be some who'd resist. So we have to come up with a plausible story.

Douglas Adams wrote about the Golgafrinchans' fear of some planet-wide catastrophe -- enormous mutant star-goat, twelve-foot piranha bees -- that persuaded an entire useless third of their population to evacuate.

What would persuade ALL Drumpf supporters to board a spaceship and evacuate this planet?

Hillary's presidency -- while abhorrent to them -- won't persuade all of them to give up their SUVs and double-wide trailers.
Zika virus -- unlikely.
Same-sex marriage -- maybe.

What instills the "flight" response in this group? We have 3 months. Let's get cracking on this.

The prospect of sharing oxygen with these people beyond mid-January is too horrible to contemplate.

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
13. There was a cult some years back that committed mass suicide
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:10 PM
Aug 2016

waiting for the spaceship to come get them.

Pakid

(478 posts)
15. Take away the one thing they can't live without
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:13 PM
Aug 2016

their guns, after all if you listen to them nothing else matter but their guns. Clean air and water, safe food, good union jobs women's right, health care for them and their family, etc none of those thing matter to them. There is only one thing that they love their guns.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
17. yes theyd love to get the country back as they feel they own the house , senate and the white house
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:25 PM
Aug 2016

yea, thed love to sculttle it starting with nixon, the buscos and if trump is in hed finish it for sure .

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
19. 92%!???!! That's cruel. Let's be reasonable.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:05 PM
Aug 2016

I say not one penny above 90%.

I call it, "Compassionate Progressivism".

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
34. I seriously think Progressives should start to use that term
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:22 PM
Aug 2016

Letting the wealthy still exist, and still stay quite rich, is one of the results, and hallmarks of,
Democratic Socialism. Sure taxes go way up for the rich, but it is an essentially peaceful process.

That actually constitutes Compassionate Progressivism, because progressives are not
eliminationists (wanting to destroy/eliminate some "enemy" via specific policies, as corporate Conservatives
ALWAYS try to do, as a rule).

Ofcourse, if Democratic Socialism a la FDR/Bernie Sanders is defeated and crushed by the elites (as it seems
they want to do), then somewhere down the line the elites are going to have to deal with decidedly
less-compassionate social movements of tens of millions of massed, disillusioned, angry people staring them in the face.

If I were the elites, I would settle this thing (and get back to helping the US middle class) via Social Democracy, rather
than something farther down the line that could really be nasty, and probably will not be good for either democracy or
the economy.



HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
23. I've recommended before
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:38 PM
Aug 2016

and it's even more relevant now. The Way We Never Were by Stephanie Coonts. It is a study of the US, exposing the myth that there was ever an American utopia to which we can go back. Rather we continue to evolve, correcting problems and expanding as time goes on. I've wondered what period of supposed "greatness" Trump wants to restore. Why don't these alleged reporters ask?

 

brooklynboy49

(287 posts)
27. Internment
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:16 AM
Aug 2016

In all fairness, it should be recognized that the internment of the Japanese was under a Democratic administration (FDR). FDR was a great president, but that's the big blemish on his legacy.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
28. Thanks for that.
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 11:46 AM
Aug 2016

That idiotic slogan infuriates me. It's so utterly stupid and MEANINGLESS. But they cling to it like it's a prayer, and not one of the trumpettes can provide an intelligent answer for what it really means.

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