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This article explains that, contrary to armchair anthropologists, the answer is a more interesting story....
https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/opinion/sunday/the-secret-of-jamaicas-runners.amp.html
How do Jamaicans do it? Its not because of genetics, as some claim. A vast majority of Jamaicans ancestors are from West Africa, which has relatively few outstanding sprinters. Nor can genetics explain why Jamaicans outperform other blacks in the Americas, especially in Brazil, which has 36 times as many of them.
Ask a Jamaican like me (I was born and raised there), and well give you a very different answer: Champs. Officially called the Inter-Secondary Schools Sports Association Boys and Girls Athletics Championship, Champs is an annual competition attended by 30,000 wildly enthusiastic fans. Jamaica is perhaps the only country in the world where a track and field meet is the premier sporting event.
But its not just Champs. The competition is one part of a broader framework track and field is huge at every educational level, with periodic regional meets drawing athletes of all ages from the most remote rural areas. So the real question is, why is Jamaica nuts for track?
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The answer is complex and incomplete. But it might lie in a deeper truth about the island. Political and economic successes are often top-down, relying on leadership that adapts and manages appropriate institutions that also benefit the non-elite. But things like health reform and sports success and the reggae industry, for that matter are largely bottom-up. Jamaica is yet to acquire the leadership for national development it deserves. But it has no lack of talent, energy and self-reliance qualities as evident in health statistics as they are on the track.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Explains it all.
Ellen Forradalom
(16,160 posts)The sport's presence in everyday lives, and a good scouting and development system lead to discovering and mentoring greatness.
We see it time and again with soccer, basketball, running and even gymnastics in different countries of the world.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)In looking at answers to that question, what emerges is "they want to".
RandySF
(59,221 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)why are Phelps/Lotche so fast? why not "them" and "they" analysis for swimming?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Like when Eastern Europeans had a monopoly on women's gymnastics.
I did not know that Norman Manley did 110 yards in 10 seconds.
Forgive me for posting what I thought was an interesting article on Jamaican history.
I'm pretty familiar with US culture and history. I would imagine that the use of a third person plural pronoun indicates that the author is not Jamaican.
malaise
(269,157 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)The thing is, Jamaica has less than 3 million people, so it's truly remarkable that they dominate sprinting events like they do. The US has a strong cultural tradition of swimming (and sports in general, other than soccer), but they also have 300 million people to pick from, so it's less noteworthy that they dominate in swimming, and in the total medal counts.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I couldn't put my finger on it but, yes, it's the numbers in part.
Statistically, if you have a huge population, then you have a lot of people at the skinny end of any bell curve.
Conversely, India - a billion people waiting for cricket to be made an Olympic sport. I'm sure there are many great athletes in India, and there are also sports there, like Kabadi, that just aren't played widely elsewhere. But you'd think on numbers alone, that the "fastest Indian runners" would be pretty darn fast.
Come to think of it, has anyone normalized the national "medal count" to population? That would be an interesting chart.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)If you count winter olympics also, then I think Norway comes out on top. They have 5 million people and dominate the cross-country skiing events.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)http://www.topendsports.com/events/summer/medal-tally/rankings-population.htm
Confirming my suspicion on the gold medal/population ratio, and "why Jamaica?"
DanTex
(20,709 posts)that would put them about tied with Jamaica at 2.1 gold medals per million people.
For some mysterious reason, Jamaica doesn't do as well in winter, and Norway doesn't do as well in summer...
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Every event in the winter games relies on frozen water, so there is an advantage to those places where it occurs naturally.
I don't understand why they don't offload some games like, say, basketball.
What makes indoor sports like basketball or, say, gymnastics a "summer" sport and not a winter one?
And, by the way, isn't it winter in Rio anyway?
PSPS
(13,614 posts)KMOD
(7,906 posts)The simply are in better shape.
They exercise more, they eat a better diet, and they breath cleaner air.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It is a consequence of a focused public health effort.
SunSeeker
(51,694 posts)But it does seem that it is a much admired sport that any kid can play in that poor island country, since running requires no special or expensive equipment.
StrictlyRockers
(3,855 posts)Live up!
SunSeeker
(51,694 posts)JI7
(89,264 posts)so more chance of getting those with talent.
That simple and loads of co-operation at all levels.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)They have to run to stay ahead of their mothers when they are in trouble or their mothers have chores for them. Since it is a island there are only so far you can run before hitting water. They tend to run a lot to stay out of her way.
B Calm
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malaise
(269,157 posts)Orlando is spot on about bottom-up development in track. Basic schools (Pre Ks) have track meets
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I read a companion piece about East Africans and their dominance in distance running, which I might post in a separate thread. I think the question strikes people as racist because they buy into "race" as an explanation, which is simply not the case. It is about wanting to do it, and the way it has woven itself into the society in general. Like football in Texas.
It's interesting that you mentioned netball - another sport which I had never heard of before spending time in the Caribbean. Beyond the sport itself, it strikes me that there is quite an intergenerational network of women netball players, which creates opportunities off the court.
malaise
(269,157 posts)it takes place over four days.
Your point about networking is very important because Jamaicans who live all over the world come home to root for their former school. The strongest alumni are associated with the schools that have done well at Schools' Champs. They will provide the equipment, shoes, gearetc and ensure that the participants have a good diet.
This extends to other areas of these schools - computer labs, science labs, etc.
Then they all head to the Penn relays to see how well their teams do against yours.
MiniMe
(21,718 posts)Other than the track speed, it made no sense at all
Retrograde
(10,156 posts)then when they all hop in gravity and inertia take over. The steerer does have to do something, but the initial speed comes from the push-off.
underpants
(182,877 posts)Jamaican bobsledding
Succesful diving programs use oversized or not top tier gymnasts. I know if a fairly accomplished high school gymnast who got a full ride at Stanford to be on their diving team.
Ex-gymnasts also make up trampoline and sync gymnastics teams.
The Kenyans and Ethiopians started using second tier marathoners for their 5 and 10K teams about 15 years ago and dominated.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)nt