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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:06 PM Aug 2016

Is Trump's letter from his doctor about his superman health a fake? It may well be:

A fake in the sense that Trump wrote it and his sycophant doc signed it:

<snip>

On December 4, 2015, the Trump campaign released…something.






It purports to be a medical letter, but it is one of the most ridiculous documents ever to emerge in any political campaign. First, the letterhead is in the same font as the letter, which appears to have been created using Microsoft Word. The signature from the doctor is several inches past the signature line—the result you might get if the document had been signed as a blank and filled in later. The letterhead includes a Gmail address—something doctors tell me is extremely unusual, since doctors do not want patients contacting them directly by email as a substitute for scheduling an appointment.

There is also a website listed, but if you follow the URL (haroldbornsteinmd.com), it takes you to cdn.freefarcy.com, a blank page that asks if you want to upload an update to a Flash program onto your computer (the domain name, freefarcy.com, is still for sale. No, I can’t explain that.) If you decline, it does so anyway and, based on the response of the security system on my computer, the “program” on the doctor’s supposed website is a virus.

Then, there is the doctor who allegedly signed this document. His name is Harold N. Bornstein, and he is a gastroenterologist. This kind of physician is a specialist who treats the digestive tract. This is not an internist, who is trained specifically in providing full histories and physicals of patients. The letter signed by Dr. Bornstein, who did not return an email from Newsweek seeking comment, says that he has treated Trump since 1980. However, it mentions no history of the gastrointestinal problem that led the Republican candidate for president to seek out his help. In fact, the letter says Trump has had no significant medical problems. So why has he been seeing a gastroenterologist for over 35 years?

<snip>

read:http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-health-doctor-490836

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Is Trump's letter from his doctor about his superman health a fake? It may well be: (Original Post) cali Aug 2016 OP
Unequivocally Trump like liberal N proud Aug 2016 #1
Have you seen the "doctor" lately? I mean have you seen his photo: Coyotl Aug 2016 #27
Reminds me of John Lennon...... LuvNewcastle Aug 2016 #51
it's truly bizarre Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #75
Looks like 'Boris The Animal' revmclaren Aug 2016 #101
Jesus, I thought that was a joke! All photos of him look like a stoner! nolabear Aug 2016 #108
Is this also Putin's doctor? (NT) The Wizard Aug 2016 #115
Is that Trump's doctor, or his meth dealer? GoDawgs Aug 2016 #118
WTH? Dr Feelgood? Blue Idaho Aug 2016 #136
yep, that's what stuck out for me, too. geardaddy Aug 2016 #43
More evidence that he wrote it... pokerfan Aug 2016 #145
I wish my blood pressure was that low superpatriotman Aug 2016 #2
lol! sarae Aug 2016 #5
My blood pressure IS that low, and holds steady. But I suppose if anybody could boil it up, calimary Aug 2016 #14
If his blood pressure were that low, why would any spooky3 Aug 2016 #69
Well... tavernier Aug 2016 #91
Sheesh - what a statistic. calimary Aug 2016 #104
LOL - "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency". Avalux Aug 2016 #3
That is the Trump "giveaway" nadine_mn Aug 2016 #19
I agree, that is just not med speak from a legit doctor. Motley13 Aug 2016 #24
Avalux: SCantiGOP Aug 2016 #37
Trump speech - hilarious! And what about Obama? Hello? Avalux Aug 2016 #57
His health is "astonishingly excellent" Ligyron Aug 2016 #44
That was the line that sealed my opinion as well. Ilsa Aug 2016 #49
Anything is possible in Trumpland... First Speaker Aug 2016 #4
A doctor didn't write that letter. It's got Trump's tiny fingerprints all over it. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #6
"...tiny fingerprints..." hopeforchange2008 Aug 2016 #9
+1 and KMOD Aug 2016 #20
but, but... Ligyron Aug 2016 #47
That would prove conclusively that the letter is a fake. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #48
And that the dog really did eat his homework.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #76
Love the tiny fingerprints. SharonClark Aug 2016 #94
To Whom IT May Concern: OilemFirchen Aug 2016 #7
Astonishingly excellent? Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #8
totally false..... dawnie51 Aug 2016 #10
Hey, no knocking rural country docs cali Aug 2016 #11
You are correct... dawnie51 Aug 2016 #17
No doctor would write canetoad Aug 2016 #12
good point treestar Aug 2016 #23
"Negative is good?" Tommy_Carcetti Aug 2016 #41
Maybe that's the dr's version of secret code. Ilsa Aug 2016 #52
Exactly. If your rapid strep test is... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #74
Precisely, you nailed it steve2470 Aug 2016 #123
I wonder how much Bornstein PatSeg Aug 2016 #13
And wouldn't that be a breach of medical ethics? spooky3 Aug 2016 #61
If it isn't, it should be. SharonClark Aug 2016 #93
You would think so PatSeg Aug 2016 #102
We don’t just need to see Trump’s taxes — we need a real medical report on him napkinz Aug 2016 #15
Yeah a letter from a shrink Stryguy Aug 2016 #126
Considering that he ALWAYS accuses his opponent of those things HE IS MOST GUILY of... 63splitwindow Aug 2016 #16
I thought it was bogus from the beginning. No actual M.D. would use superlatives like catbyte Aug 2016 #18
You KNOW why a GI specialist is giving Trump complete physicals jmowreader Aug 2016 #113
On webmd.com, Dr. Bornstein only gets........ mrmpa Aug 2016 #21
He does treat anal fissures, though. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #31
:-) he obviously didn't treat THIS one effectively. spooky3 Aug 2016 #67
HA! Moonwalk Aug 2016 #79
Why thank you! spooky3 Aug 2016 #81
The page has been pulled! . . ."404" . . . n/t annabanana Aug 2016 #34
That's interesting........ mrmpa Aug 2016 #45
The information is still there but you have to start over The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2016 #46
If its a free Gmail account its not HIPPA compliant FreeState Aug 2016 #22
Rumor has it trev343 Aug 2016 #25
How Hitleresque AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #39
You nailed it. Mendocino Aug 2016 #53
His doctor said Trump 'will be healthiest individual ever elected' president DesertRat Aug 2016 #60
You goofed, posting pictures of golfer John Daly... Mendocino Aug 2016 #73
If Daly had an orange mullet DesertRat Aug 2016 #84
John Daly would never wear such obnoxious slacks! (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2016 #129
He does not look particularly healthy. 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #78
Exactly! DesertRat Aug 2016 #85
In fact, his BMI is even greater than his IQ Fritz Walter Aug 2016 #142
Ha! I'm sure it is! DesertRat Aug 2016 #143
Where did you hear that rumor? DesertRat Aug 2016 #50
On the Internet, of course SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #56
An obvious fake playing to his cult. And smokescreen for Hannity's attack on HRC. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2016 #26
He's kidding, right?? Marie Marie Aug 2016 #28
Laughable it is. Kidding he is not. cali Aug 2016 #33
Seems rather effusive/adoring of Trump Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2016 #29
Does he have regenerative blood like Khan on Star Trek? No? Initech Aug 2016 #30
there is NO physician, NO veterinarian, no nurse nor dentist who would not know POSITIVE results hlthe2b Aug 2016 #32
probably not fake. The 'rich & famous' like a Doctor who enables them & are also 'rich & famous' Sunlei Aug 2016 #35
Probably fake. The long-dead father's name is still listed on the letterhead. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #59
Is it a "law" that a candidate release a medical status documents? world wide wally Aug 2016 #36
As fake as the Meredith McIver letter oldtime dfl_er Aug 2016 #38
good reminder of that obvious fake! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #77
statin = high cholesterol, or a risk (like diabetes) for high cholesterol Ms. Toad Aug 2016 #40
'astonishingly excellent' sounds like it was written by dr trump spanone Aug 2016 #42
Exactly..I read medical records all day long and JenniferJuniper Aug 2016 #72
No, his doctor was being sarcastic. ThoughtCriminal Aug 2016 #54
Ha-HA! ^ This! Moonwalk Aug 2016 #83
He Cannot Say That erpowers Aug 2016 #55
And obviously the dead ones did not give permission spooky3 Aug 2016 #65
And why would the physician's DEAD FATHER still be listed on the letterhead? pnwmom Aug 2016 #58
That could be for legal reasons SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #96
Well it turns out Trump lied about finishing top of his class @ Wharton too Botany Aug 2016 #62
If his lab results are so... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #63
The bombastic language in the letter says that Trump wrote it. yardwork Aug 2016 #64
Absolute twaddle. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2016 #66
I still don't understand why this in itself didn't get Trump laughed out of the GOP primary. tanyev Aug 2016 #68
It was released in December, when the GOP was absolutely, positively, 100% sure he'd never win.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #90
Watch him when gets off a plane he has a death grip on railing with head down to see the next step FreeStateDemocrat Aug 2016 #70
And don't forget that Trump originally trumpeted the name of the DEAD FATHER, Jacob, pnwmom Aug 2016 #71
Physical strength and stamina are extraordinary. :D :D :D :D C Moon Aug 2016 #80
It's not fake wheniwasincongress Aug 2016 #82
But what about his baby hands doc? His tiny little fingers, they are like vienna sausages! Rex Aug 2016 #86
Apparently this "Doctor" wrote his own review postatomic Aug 2016 #87
Nurse here for 40 years. Document is as phony tavernier Aug 2016 #88
I'm not in the medical field postatomic Aug 2016 #92
Signed, Epstein's mother. JBoy Aug 2016 #105
Zactly. tavernier Aug 2016 #106
LOL, saved me from posting it ! nt eppur_se_muova Aug 2016 #125
It is dangerously shameful that the press doesn't care about this fraud Pathwalker Aug 2016 #89
Check cali Aug 2016 #107
This thread exists because the press is investigating this fraud: Newsweek, Salon. Read OP. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #119
Lucky for us that he released this back in December.... Moonwalk Aug 2016 #95
It also says ailsagirl Aug 2016 #97
No doctor would say ReformedGOPer Aug 2016 #98
I don't think the guy ever sleeps... kentuck Aug 2016 #99
Don't gastroenterologists do colonscopies? central scrutinizer Aug 2016 #100
Nope. Fritz Walter Aug 2016 #144
meanwhile trump is attacking Hillary's health spanone Aug 2016 #103
Here's some fun. Before they "fixed" it, Trump referred to his doctor by his long dead father's name nolabear Aug 2016 #109
Trump probably confused it with the dead doctors's million dollar letter to Trump's draft board pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #110
Better check Dr. Bornstein's facebook page jcgoldie Aug 2016 #111
I found the doctor who wrote that jmowreader Aug 2016 #112
Letter is probably as genuine as Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. mwooldri Aug 2016 #114
and those comments..... CarrieLynne Aug 2016 #116
I sure hope this becomes an issue since he's pushing Hillary's legitimate doctor's report world wide wally Aug 2016 #117
His tests have had positive results for what? Hep C? Syph? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2016 #120
This document needs extreme vetting. ExTREEME... EXTREEEME vetting. JohnnyRingo Aug 2016 #121
Too feeble for the Vietnam draft, but suddenly now immortal pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #122
Forgive you? Fuck no. Not when there is NOTHING to forgive. cali Aug 2016 #124
This really hits home for me pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #127
I could tell from your initial terse comment- the one I responded to. cali Aug 2016 #128
No 70 year old is in perfect health sarge43 Aug 2016 #130
why isn't this story being covered by the news networks? napkinz Aug 2016 #131
it is- albeit anemically. But you are right. This should have been covered the moment cali Aug 2016 #132
what do we need to do, suffix a "gate" to it? napkinz Aug 2016 #133
Donnybrook. cali Aug 2016 #134
that's a good one! napkinz Aug 2016 #135
Oh come off it - how could you doubt something Trump told us.... LynneSin Aug 2016 #137
You set yourself a sisyphean task. Imfuckingpossible. cali Aug 2016 #139
The sig extending past the sig line is no big deal. People who sign big do that. uppityperson Aug 2016 #138
About as authentic as Trump's PR guy John Miller... backscatter712 Aug 2016 #140
Looks like a note a kid typed to get out of school.... Historic NY Aug 2016 #141
Rachel covering the story right now on MSNBC! napkinz Aug 2016 #146
good. this needs to be investigated. Not just reported on. cali Aug 2016 #148
Donald's "doctor" is probably a quack, just like Trump himself Lsantos04 Aug 2016 #147
I didn't see that news report about Trumps's health DesertRat Aug 2016 #150
haroldbornsteinmd.com - try going to that site. sarcasmo Aug 2016 #149
Does Trump have Khan's super blood from Star Trek? Initech Aug 2016 #151
So are there any AMA or state licensing recorder on this guy? CanonRay Aug 2016 #152
if only Hillary had the mental and physical stamina of Donald Trump napkinz Aug 2016 #153
Trump tweets ... napkinz Aug 2016 #154
Is Dr. Bornstein actually a doctor at said hospital? Answer, "Trump lies again." Coyotl Aug 2016 #155
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
27. Have you seen the "doctor" lately? I mean have you seen his photo:
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:54 PM
Aug 2016


This is the guy who writes Trump's prescriptions ....

revmclaren

(2,520 posts)
101. Looks like 'Boris The Animal'
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:42 PM
Aug 2016

in 'Men in Black 3' but more disturbing!

Probably takes more prescriptions than he writes.



Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
136. WTH? Dr Feelgood?
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:05 AM
Aug 2016

Well, I gotta hand it to the good doctor, at least he hasn't killed Trump... Yet...

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
145. More evidence that he wrote it...
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:06 PM
Aug 2016

Look at his choice of words when describing his temperament:

"I think I have the best temperament or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever," he told the crowd today. "Because I have a winning temperament. I know how to win."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-best-temperaments-presidential-candidate/story?id=41003314

Compare with this from the purported letter from his doctor:

“If elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest person ever elected to the presidency.”

I rest my case.

calimary

(81,240 posts)
14. My blood pressure IS that low, and holds steady. But I suppose if anybody could boil it up,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:42 PM
Aug 2016

it'd be The Donald and all thoughts of the horrors he would cause if he were President and had the nuclear codes at his disposal.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
91. Well...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:47 PM
Aug 2016

One in four Americans over the age of 45 are now taking a statin drug, despite the fact that there are over 900 studies proving their adverse effects, which run the gamut from muscle problems to diabetes and increased cancer risk.
Statins deplete your body of CoQ10, which can have devastating results. If you take statin drugs without taking CoQ10, your health is at serious risk. If you have symptoms of statin damage, such as muscle pain, take anywhere from 200 to 500 mg of CoQ10 or ubiquinol, which is the reduced form. Ubiquinol is the recommended form if you’re over the age of 25. For preventative use, take around 100-200 mg.
Statins also impair the function of all sterols, including cholesterol and vitamin D (which is similar to cholesterol and is produced from cholesterol in your skin), all your sex hormones, cortisone, the dolichols, which are involved in keeping the membranes inside your cells healthy.
--------

So basically, he's a mess!

calimary

(81,240 posts)
104. Sheesh - what a statistic.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:49 PM
Aug 2016

That's terrible! My blood pressure is so low that, one time, when I went to donate blood, they almost sent me away. Because they couldn't find my blood pressure! Took three different nurses trying to get a reading on me before they finally found one. They kept joking with me - "are you sure you're not dead?" Since it was fairly early on a Saturday morning, I responded - "well, no, but kinda feels like it."

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
3. LOL - "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency".
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:15 PM
Aug 2016

A legitimate physician would never write such a thing. Either it's fake, or "Dr. Bornstein" needs to be disbarred for making such a ludicrous statement.

Either way, it's a big steaming pile of horse shit.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
19. That is the Trump "giveaway"
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:49 PM
Aug 2016

not just healthy but the healthiest ever in the world of all time...

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
24. I agree, that is just not med speak from a legit doctor.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:51 PM
Aug 2016

I want to see a psychological report from a proven legit psychiatrist.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
37. Avalux:
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:14 PM
Aug 2016

Are you sure this doctor hasn't examined every President that has ever served? I'm just saying, that's what some people say, believe me...............

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
57. Trump speech - hilarious! And what about Obama? Hello?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:48 PM
Aug 2016

Of course if we make that comparison, it will surely set the Little Blowhard off on a twitter rant.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
49. That was the line that sealed my opinion as well.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:33 PM
Aug 2016

A doctor would never make such a ridiculous assertion. It sounds more like Trump-talk. Also, I don't believe his blood pressure is that low unless he's taking antihypertensive medication. I simply don't believe anything in the letter.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
4. Anything is possible in Trumpland...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:15 PM
Aug 2016

...phony doctor letters, phony spokespeople, phony campaign managers...that's why some little part of me still wonders about the Andy Kaufman scenario...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
6. A doctor didn't write that letter. It's got Trump's tiny fingerprints all over it.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:20 PM
Aug 2016

He or one of his minions managed to get a signature (they probably bought it), which doesn't line up with the printed signature block, and he created the letter around it. No actual doctor would issue a medical report that used those Trumpian words.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
47. but, but...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:31 PM
Aug 2016

on the reverse side the doctor says that Mr. Trump has the largest johnson he's ever examined.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
76. And that the dog really did eat his homework....
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:13 PM
Aug 2016
It's like a he's remembering how to forge letters from his mother to his 5th grade teacher.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
94. Love the tiny fingerprints.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:53 PM
Aug 2016

Maybe it's like Dorian Grey except the more he lies and bloviates, his hands get smaller and smaller.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
7. To Whom IT May Concern:
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:21 PM
Aug 2016
Donald Trump's doctor claims he's in perfect health and has never touched alcohol, but Twitter disagrees

... since the release of the letter, social media users have taken the opportunity to criticize the claims and post photos of the GOP frontrunner drinking what appears to be alcohol.

One person on Twitter posted a photo of President Barack Obama playing basketball, implying that he was a healthier man than Trump.

While Hillary Clinton, Jeb Bush and Chris Christie have released medical records, the Trump campaign had been holding out, with Trump both saying he was incredibly healthy – pointing to the fact that his parents had lived so long – but also bragging about his manly diet of bacon and steaks.

Trump's doctor said Trump had 'no history of ever using alcohol or tobacco products', but actual medical records were not included in the announcement.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
10. totally false.....
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:32 PM
Aug 2016

forged, or even worse, the good doctor had the paper put in front of him and he signed it. That hot mess was written by Trump, in the usual Trump-ian hyperbole, and without a shred of fact or proof. And that's the only medical anything anyone will see too. No doctor, even the most rural country doc, would ever put out a mess like that. Let alone a Manhattan MD.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. Hey, no knocking rural country docs
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:38 PM
Aug 2016

My doc now is good. My prior doc, who decided to quit a couple of years ago, was fantastic. My orthopedist when I smashed my leg up and required 3 surgeries was amazing (hey, you get a lot of practice as an orthopedist if you work right by Stowe Mountain).

There are a lot of excellent rural docs.

canetoad

(17,154 posts)
12. No doctor would write
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:39 PM
Aug 2016

'Only positive results'.

It would be something like 'unremarkable' or 'within normal range'. Positive results means he has something wrong.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
74. Exactly. If your rapid strep test is...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:11 PM
Aug 2016

...positive, you have strep. If your urine culture is positive, you have a UTI. If your pregnancy test is positive, you are preggers. If your drug screen is positive, you've been using. If your TB test is positive, you are not a happy camper. If your chest Xray is positive, there is something in your lungs that shouldn't be there.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
123. Precisely, you nailed it
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:08 AM
Aug 2016

I've read a lot of doctor-generated documentation, and that's exactly what they say. I'd be shocked if a real MD wrote this. More like Trump wrote it and his paid-off doc signed it.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
15. We don’t just need to see Trump’s taxes — we need a real medical report on him
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:44 PM
Aug 2016
Donald Trump isn’t just a bloviating fraud, he might truly be physically unfit to be president

SOPHIA MCCLENNEN
AUG 10, 2016

There has been a recent flurry of news media coverage that has focused on whether or not Trump might not be well, whether he might suffer from dementia or Alzheimer’s, and whether or not his thin skin and uncontrollable temper might be a problem for a president. Even more disturbing we learned of his inability to understand why we should not nuke Europe. Then–after all that–we get the frightening and unhinged 2nd Amendment comment. Clearly we have reason to question whether or not he has the ability to do the job.

Anticipating that concern, Trump released a letter from his physician back in December attesting that“if elected, Mr. Trump, I can state unequivocally, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.” When the letter was first released many laughed it off. It seemed like yet another sign of a bombastic and surreal campaign. But now that we are only months away from the general election it is time to return to that letter and wonder if it is further proof that Trump is scamming the US public.

-snip-

The letter does not uphold even the flimsiest medical standard and it uses hyperbolic language that has no connection at all to facts. Aside from making the outrageous and completely unverifiable claim that Trump would be the healthiest president ever, it makes other odd statements. We read, for instance, that he has had a medical exam that revealed “only positive results.” In the medical community a “positive result” means a bad prognosis. What we want are “normal” results. The letter uses the word “excellent” twice in relation to medical tests—another oddity since again the standard would be to say “normal.” The letter also states that Trump’s only medical issue was an appendectomy but there is no mention of the bone spur, which kept him from serving in Viet Nam.

Apart from the lack of scientific rigor, the letter starts with “To Whom My Concern.” It is worth pausing to worry that the physician who has been taking care of Trump since 1980 has such a poor command of the English language. In fact, the language in the letter mirrors the same sort of bombastic language common to Trump-speak. The writing was so bizarre that it led Robert Reich to wonder if it had been written by Trump himself.

read more: http://www.salon.com/2016/08/10/we-do-not-just-need-to-see-trumps-taxes-we-need-a-real-medical-report-on-him/

Stryguy

(209 posts)
126. Yeah a letter from a shrink
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 04:37 AM
Aug 2016

Yeah but a medical report from a physician is the wrong type of doctor in my opinion. Lets get one from a psychologist.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
16. Considering that he ALWAYS accuses his opponent of those things HE IS MOST GUILY of...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:45 PM
Aug 2016

you are damn right it is a bought and paid for bullshit opinion.

catbyte

(34,382 posts)
18. I thought it was bogus from the beginning. No actual M.D. would use superlatives like
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:48 PM
Aug 2016

"astonishingly excellent", "health is extraordinary", or, my personal favorite "healthiest person ever..."

Give me a break. This was Don the Con pretending to be his doctor instead of his assistant. It's childish and reminds me of a kid forging a note from mom to explain why little Donny wasn't in 3rd period Study Hall.

Pathetic.

On edit: I just thought of something--why would a GI specialist be giving him a complete physical instead of a GP or FP physician?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
113. You KNOW why a GI specialist is giving Trump complete physicals
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:34 PM
Aug 2016

A complete asshole like Trump needs to visit a doctor that specializes in that part of the anatomy.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
45. That's interesting........
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:29 PM
Aug 2016

it was available when I posted. I guess the Doc is having some problems.

 

trev343

(11 posts)
25. Rumor has it
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:53 PM
Aug 2016

That Trump was prescribed Meth for many years, which could be causing his personality disorder.

Mendocino

(7,488 posts)
53. You nailed it.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:37 PM
Aug 2016

Hitler was claimed to be a vegetarian, celibate, a teetotaler, an "aryan superman" immune to the faults and desires of the common person. He was none of those and his life ended with being a total drug addict. I'm no doctor, but Dullard does not seem to be in good health. He is overweight and wears increasingly ill fitting suits to try to cover it up. He looks puffy and blotchy. He seems to have labored breathing. His gait is unsteady. I think he has advanced cardiovascular problems. Melania is just marking time to this toad drops dead.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
78. He does not look particularly healthy.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:15 PM
Aug 2016

With as angry as he is all the time, I am dubious about the quoted blood pressure reading.

And that middle picture - Trump is a big ass, and he has a big ass.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
26. An obvious fake playing to his cult. And smokescreen for Hannity's attack on HRC.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:54 PM
Aug 2016

Ailes advising and Hannity the water boy.

hlthe2b

(102,255 posts)
32. there is NO physician, NO veterinarian, no nurse nor dentist who would not know POSITIVE results
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:03 PM
Aug 2016

INDICATE ABNORMALITIES. The language used in medicine is that NEGATIVE results are normal, not Positive.

This is pure BS and clearly a letter crafted by a medical ILLITERATE.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
35. probably not fake. The 'rich & famous' like a Doctor who enables them & are also 'rich & famous'
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:09 PM
Aug 2016

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
38. As fake as the Meredith McIver letter
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:15 PM
Aug 2016

Which, by the way, NEVER apologizes to FLOTUS Michelle Obama. These fake documents are so sycophantic, so fawning and so unprofessional that I wonder why anybody takes them seriously.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
40. statin = high cholesterol, or a risk (like diabetes) for high cholesterol
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:15 PM
Aug 2016

Same for the aspirin, although since that is over the counter he could be self-medicating.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
72. Exactly..I read medical records all day long and
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:06 PM
Aug 2016

doctors simply don't write shit like that.

Sounds just like Trump though.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
55. He Cannot Say That
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:39 PM
Aug 2016

Even if that is Donald Trump's real doctor he cannot say that Trump will be the healthiest person elected President. Since he was not the doctor for every President he does not know whether or not Trump is healthier than the other Presidents. In addition, I would go as far as to say Trump is not healthier President Obama. President Obama is much younger and as far as I know works out much more than Donald Trump.

spooky3

(34,448 posts)
65. And obviously the dead ones did not give permission
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:57 PM
Aug 2016

for their private records to be released, even if the physician HAD examined some of them.

Trump is not a good liar if his lies are so obvious.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
58. And why would the physician's DEAD FATHER still be listed on the letterhead?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:48 PM
Aug 2016

The letter is a fake, and this has been clear since the day it was first released. I'm glad the story has come up again.

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
96. That could be for legal reasons
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:00 PM
Aug 2016

As a medical corporation. My childhood doctor's name was on the door long after he passed.

A better question might be why was Don seeing a specialist in gynecological oncology? Is there something he's not telling us?

Botany

(70,503 posts)
62. Well it turns out Trump lied about finishing top of his class @ Wharton too
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:55 PM
Aug 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028096415

Melania college degree ... lie
Trump U .... a lie
Trump Institue ... a lie
The Trump Network .... a lie
Trump condos .... a lie
Trump steaks ... a big old con
Trump's VA golf course and "the River of Blood" civil war battle ..... a lie
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/politics/in-renovation-of-golf-club-donald-trump-also-dressed-up-history.html

yardwork

(61,604 posts)
64. The bombastic language in the letter says that Trump wrote it.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:57 PM
Aug 2016

The whole letter sounds just like him.

And why is he taking a statin?

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
66. Absolute twaddle.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 04:59 PM
Aug 2016

The fact that anyone falls for this or any of Trump's blowhardy prattle is a testament to the pathetic lack of logical thinking skills among the masses.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
90. It was released in December, when the GOP was absolutely, positively, 100% sure he'd never win....
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:38 PM
Aug 2016

...so why bother kicking him out? At this point, however, any sane republicans who haven't sprinted over to Hillary are either getting very drunk or thinking of slitting their wrists. If Trump hasn't embarrassed them into a hole yet, the resurfacing of this letter will. It's so amateur, so ridiculous, so amazingly stupid! And there's no escaping it now that Trump and Hannity have made Hillary's health a "thing." They've invited every news outlet, pundit, democrat, comedian or internet wit to ruthlessly hammer and mock this letter, Trump's doctor, Trump's health, Trump, Trump voters, his surrogates, and the RNC.

This should fuel the Democratic campaign across the nation for at least this week if not the rest of August. I wonder what Trump et al will give us next?

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
70. Watch him when gets off a plane he has a death grip on railing with head down to see the next step
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:01 PM
Aug 2016

as he slowing plods down, he is a an unhealthy old man. By comparison watch Obama dance down the middle of stairs waving to the crowd with head up and moving in a robust manner! Despite the age difference, ASSWIPE is in poor condition, I'm 70, conditioned and I don't use the hand rail and can confidently walk down the middle of steps. This is dead give away, if he has that much trouble walking down a flight of steps, he must really struggle just to walk up one flight. Get Hannity on it, he has all the medical expertise necessary to make a fair and balanced pronouncement on tubby's health.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
71. And don't forget that Trump originally trumpeted the name of the DEAD FATHER, Jacob,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:03 PM
Aug 2016

as the doctor who wrote the report.

How could Trump forget that the doctor who has been treating him since 1980 is named HAROLD, not Jacob?

http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/14/10123368/donald-trump-health-doctor-report-heaven-protect-me



wheniwasincongress

(1,307 posts)
82. It's not fake
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:18 PM
Aug 2016

Donald J. Trump has the most best, most spectacular health of any human ever recorded and would have liked to participate in the current Olympics but his Presidential campaign has rendered him busy. His glowing skin tone indicates health of the highest caliber and his eyes reflect extremely high intelligence. --Trump spokesman John Miller

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
87. Apparently this "Doctor" wrote his own review
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:28 PM
Aug 2016
-Harold bornstein md in 101east 78th street nyc 10075 | Jan 22, 2016
Extrairdinary


And no, I didn't misspell extraordinary.

This "Doctor" also was sued for over-medicating a colonoscopy patient in 2000. It was settled in 2006.

The doctor who gave Donald Trump an outrageously enthusiastic health assessment was sued for allowing a colonoscopy patient to die in 2000.

Court papers filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court charged that Dr. Harold Bornstein was performing the procedure on 57-year-old Vincent Pollifrone when the patient was “improperly medicated” and died of a drug overdose that could have been prevented.


This medical report is phony as a six dollar bill.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
88. Nurse here for 40 years. Document is as phony
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:34 PM
Aug 2016

as Trump University diploma. I've worked with hundreds of docs, and not ONE would ever write a paper so silly and sophomoric. I'm surprised he didn't sign it "Mr. Trumps Phyzishun."

postatomic

(1,771 posts)
92. I'm not in the medical field
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:50 PM
Aug 2016

But I has access to ALL my medical records which includes letters sent to my GP Doctor. Nothing comes close to this phony letter.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
89. It is dangerously shameful that the press doesn't care about this fraud
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:37 PM
Aug 2016

being perpetrated with such an obvious fraudulent "report". If only we could make them investigate this blatant in-your-face bullshit. I consider them Don The Con's accomplices.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
95. Lucky for us that he released this back in December....
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 05:55 PM
Aug 2016

...before his campaign had gained people who *might* have created something more legitimate looking. I mean, could anything look more amateur? Trump REALLY must have created it himself! As I said in another post, it reads like Trump flashing back to faking a note from his mother to his elementary school teacher. I can even hear him saying to his wife as he types it up in bed, "This'll be easy. I use to create fake letters like these all the time....won't take but a few minutes. You just throw in a few terms that sound medical, like 'statin' and cardiovascular. No one will know the difference."

And I'm sure this would fool those voting for him, even most of the American public, which is all he thought he needed to fool while in the primaries.

But now he's up for president and if he's bringing up Hillary's health, then there's no way this letter isn't going to come back to haunt him. And it can be seen not only instantly as a fraud, but ridiculously so from so many different angles: From any college kid whose going to roll his eyes at the Trump's inability to mask his use of a word processing program, to doctors, to journalists, to, well, frankly, anyone with half a brain.

As Trump would put it...the letter is a disaster.

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
97. It also says
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:03 PM
Aug 2016
"To Whom My Concern"

"astonishingly excellent" (not exactly an objective medical phrase-- lousy writing, to boot)


Along with all the other things you pointed out!!

This letter is phony as the day is long!!

kentuck

(111,092 posts)
99. I don't think the guy ever sleeps...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:17 PM
Aug 2016

and he is not in good health because of sleep deprivation. It clouds the mind and limits the ability to reason in a responsible way.

There are probably other conditions that we do not know about and will not know about because of his tendency to hide everything from the public.

spanone

(135,831 posts)
103. meanwhile trump is attacking Hillary's health
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:29 PM
Aug 2016
Hillary health myth: From Twitter theories to a Trump speech

In the 2016 presidential campaign, the line between fringe theory and stump speech material is blurring.

In less than a month, unsubstantiated claims about Hillary Clinton's health have gone from chatter on Twitter to an attack line by Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Without offering any evidence, Mr Trump said in Ohio on Monday that she "lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on Isis [Islamic State] and all of the many adversaries we face". Mr Trump, 70, is almost two years older than Mrs Clinton.

Most of the latest reports on her health assert that she never recovered from a blood clot that she suffered in 2012, and is keeping her frailty secret.


http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37090082

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
109. Here's some fun. Before they "fixed" it, Trump referred to his doctor by his long dead father's name
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:16 PM
Aug 2016

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
110. Trump probably confused it with the dead doctors's million dollar letter to Trump's draft board
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:52 PM
Aug 2016

Easy mistake, as that long-ago letter was the one that really counted. Gotta be impressed with a doctor who can get you excused from war for a sudden, temporary condition that prevents military service but not playing 5 or 6 sports.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
111. Better check Dr. Bornstein's facebook page
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:01 PM
Aug 2016

I bet he's wearing the same dress as Meredith McIver in Trump's office with a different head or something.

CarrieLynne

(497 posts)
116. and those comments.....
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:53 AM
Aug 2016

I mean really...."...the healthiest person ever elected to office" lol! First of all...I can hear the "lemme tell you...' right after that lol but what Dr would make a statement like that knowing they have not examined every president for comparison? Lol

Certainly..... certainly......Obama is healthier...I mean....really lol

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
121. This document needs extreme vetting. ExTREEME... EXTREEEME vetting.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:57 AM
Aug 2016

I'm glad Newsweek is on it.

Thanx for posting.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
122. Too feeble for the Vietnam draft, but suddenly now immortal
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 02:02 AM
Aug 2016

As one who served back then and got a REAL Purple Heart (which I never "always wanted&quot , forgive me for calling 'bullshit' on this puffed up charlatan and all of his bogus testimonials.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
127. This really hits home for me
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:02 AM
Aug 2016

Too many friends died in faraway jungles while Trump went on with his playboy life and joked that avoiding STDs was his Vietnam.

I have no problem with those who avoided service in that war out of conscience (and as a congressional intern I wrote my Rep's press release reporting and explaining President Carter's draft amnesty).

But for Trump avoiding service was just a matter of convenience and privilege. Let the chumps get called up, he was above that.

When Trump's student deferments ran out he was a prime candidate for the draft. He got a doctor to spare him. I wonder who went in his place, and what happened to him. Unknowable, of course, but we know about the suffering and the carnage and the 58,000 Americans who didn't have compliant doctors and who served, and who died. While the guy who claims to be the best patriot ever stayed home.



R.I.P. to my friends They may not have liked it or even agreed with it. They may have gone because their dads and uncles went in WWII. Or because they heard JFK appeal to our generation to "Ask not..." For whatever reason, they showed up. Some probaby would have loved to have had a doctor who could get them out of it...but they weren't privileged, so they went. And died. While the truly privileged endured combat against STDs and lamented that horrible ordeal.

R.I.P., my friends. You would not believe the people who are being elevated since your passing. But some of us still remember who you were and what you did and what we lost in losing you.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
128. I could tell from your initial terse comment- the one I responded to.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:09 AM
Aug 2016

I don't what to say to you. I suppose I could glibly thank you for your service, but I won't. I can only say you I'm so sorry for the losses you endure. And that I think your outrage over Trump vis a vis the Vietnam War and his callous comments and egocentric pov, is entirely justified. It's one I share, though I certainly don't have the personal connection to loss and the horror of the Vietnam war that you do.

With respect,

cali

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
130. No 70 year old is in perfect health
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 07:25 AM
Aug 2016

No matter how careful we are, life, time and gravity have their way with us.

"He has no history of ever using alcohol..."

Oh for Christ's sake, with his life style? Please.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
131. why isn't this story being covered by the news networks?
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:56 AM
Aug 2016

You can bet if Hillary had concocted such a letter it would be a top story.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
132. it is- albeit anemically. But you are right. This should have been covered the moment
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:58 AM
Aug 2016

he released this ludicrous document. We need to keep pushing this via social media.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
133. what do we need to do, suffix a "gate" to it?
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

Lettergate?

or maybe just combine all Don the Con's scandals and call it Trumpgate.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
137. Oh come off it - how could you doubt something Trump told us....
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016


Ok I tried to post that with a seriousness and straight face but dagnabbit that's hard to do!!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
138. The sig extending past the sig line is no big deal. People who sign big do that.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

As for the rest, it reads as something a kid wrote to give to his school to explain his skipping school. It is not in any way a document to be taken seriously by a doctor. It says nothing in flourishes. I agree, why would he be seeing a gastroenterologist for 35 yrs?

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
141. Looks like a note a kid typed to get out of school....
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 01:31 PM
Aug 2016

To whom my concern........ really Donald, you do always talk about yourself

 

Lsantos04

(48 posts)
147. Donald's "doctor" is probably a quack, just like Trump himself
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 09:15 PM
Aug 2016

Seriously, with the way Trump has been behaving recently, it's pretty obvious that his mental health is in question. And didn't a news report recently confirm that Trump's campaign has taken a great toll on his general health?

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
153. if only Hillary had the mental and physical stamina of Donald Trump
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:20 AM
Aug 2016







Trump: Clinton Lacks ‘Mental and Physical Stamina’ to Fight ISIS
by Josh Feldman | August 15th, 2016

“She also lacks the mental and physical stamina to take on ISIS and all of the many adversaries we face, not only in terrorism but in trade and every other challenge we must confront.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-clinton-lacks-mental-and-physical-stamina-to-fight-isis/
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