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seaglass

(8,185 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:31 AM Aug 2016

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Stop it, the fucking primaries are over. WHY do you want to continue possible alienating support? onecaliberal Aug 2016 #1
You don't think Bernie's supporters are interested in DURHAM D Aug 2016 #2
1: If he were our nominee this would be relevant. katsy Aug 2016 #8
This Opening Post is like critical comments of Obamas, Clintons or John Kerry Jeffersons Ghost Aug 2016 #26
Exactly. katsy Aug 2016 #31
I'm not. LWolf Aug 2016 #30
Why would this alienate support? A factual article posted about Independent Senator Bernie Sanders - seaglass Aug 2016 #4
I think he's unwittingly given Trump cover to avoid disclosure. bettyellen Aug 2016 #9
That's a fair point. It would help to keep the issue of Trump's nondisclosure in the forefront stopbush Aug 2016 #11
Trump consistently cites the Sanders campaign rhetoric... yallerdawg Aug 2016 #19
Bernie isn't our nominer h e l l o katsy Aug 2016 #32
In most cases I would agree, but in this one the OP has a point. Renew Deal Aug 2016 #15
Please jehop61 Aug 2016 #3
This is ridiculous. Let it go. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #5
This is news today. What is ridiculous about the content of this article? n/t seaglass Aug 2016 #7
If Bernie diehards were pointing out every loophole that Clinton has jumped through, NightWatcher Aug 2016 #10
+1 demmiblue Aug 2016 #12
Because it IS an issue with Trump also, and this provides him with a big excuse not to do the one bettyellen Aug 2016 #13
+1000 Mika Aug 2016 #16
Linking to a factual article is piling on? Bernie is still a player, he is looking to become seaglass Aug 2016 #18
Never have been fond of sore winners. Iggo Aug 2016 #20
Always the same people over and over and over again. n/t demmiblue Aug 2016 #23
No point to this anymore MattP Aug 2016 #6
this kind of post helps Donald Trump by antagonizing people who voted geek tragedy Aug 2016 #14
Ridiculous. Will Bernie voters now vote for Trump if they read it somewhere else on the internet seaglass Aug 2016 #21
rubbing salt in the wounds. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #33
Keep fighting that primary! Iggo Aug 2016 #17
Bernie doesn't have to jack shit. mahina Aug 2016 #22
WHo honestly gives a shit? CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #24
You Better Believe It!!11!! n/t demmiblue Aug 2016 #25
At this point it doesn't matter, but I havta say that... Adrahil Aug 2016 #27
Lolz...all the outrage kicking this thread again & again & again JNelson6563 Aug 2016 #28
The Primary is over. Let kick Trump's rump. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #29
Sanders has endorsed Hillary and is fighting for her to be elected. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #34
This is hurting people's feelings so I am deleting. seaglass Aug 2016 #35
 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
1. Stop it, the fucking primaries are over. WHY do you want to continue possible alienating support?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:32 AM
Aug 2016

STOP!

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
2. You don't think Bernie's supporters are interested in
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:33 AM
Aug 2016

his financial info?

katsy

(4,246 posts)
8. 1: If he were our nominee this would be relevant.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:42 AM
Aug 2016

2: Review every political fact-checking source & both SBS & HRC are honest & that's verifiable so FUCK NO I don't see it as necessary to make SBS do ANYTHING other than reinforce HRC as the right choice for prez.

3: I wanted HRC to release her speeches to wall st. I fucking grew up when faced with the possibility of a trump presidency and no longer give 2 fucks about her speeches.

4: Hopefully this thread will be locked for the shit it is.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
26. This Opening Post is like critical comments of Obamas, Clintons or John Kerry
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

Pick a democrat and someone with an unusual political agenda will criticize them at Democratic Underground. Does anyone have a criticism of any of the Kennedys?

katsy

(4,246 posts)
31. Exactly.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:29 AM
Aug 2016

This is very divisive and mean-spirited. Reminds me of trump tactics

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
30. I'm not.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:24 AM
Aug 2016

This was never an issue for me.

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
4. Why would this alienate support? A factual article posted about Independent Senator Bernie Sanders -
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
Aug 2016

explain why someone would change their vote because this article is posted on DU.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. I think he's unwittingly given Trump cover to avoid disclosure.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:43 AM
Aug 2016

Suddenly the rules change and they don't have to disclose? It's totally unfair and damaging to the Dem candidate. Disappointing.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
11. That's a fair point. It would help to keep the issue of Trump's nondisclosure in the forefront
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:48 AM
Aug 2016

were Sanders to release his taxes, as he promised.

By not releasing them, Trump can point to Sanders and use his nonrelease as an excuse.

Not a yuge issue at this point, but definitely a missed opportunity to drive home the unity message that the Ds are the transparent political party.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
19. Trump consistently cites the Sanders campaign rhetoric...
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

to attack Hillary.

His surrogates offer Trump as an alternative to "establishment insider political corruption."

Two out of the last three viable national candidates refused to disclose their Federal taxes.

Very bad precedent.

Of course, the one who did release her taxes is the next President of the United States. Maybe there are consequences?

katsy

(4,246 posts)
32. Bernie isn't our nominer h e l l o
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:33 AM
Aug 2016

So if MOM hasn't released his disclosure or any of the old gop candidates haven't disclosed AFTER losing the nomination it gives trump cover to not release HIS returns?

Give. Me. A. Break.

Self delete you are embarrassing yourself.

Renew Deal

(85,147 posts)
15. In most cases I would agree, but in this one the OP has a point.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:56 AM
Aug 2016

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
3. Please
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
Aug 2016

save your energy and work to support our candidate.

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
5. This is ridiculous. Let it go.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:35 AM
Aug 2016

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
7. This is news today. What is ridiculous about the content of this article? n/t
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:37 AM
Aug 2016

NightWatcher

(39,376 posts)
10. If Bernie diehards were pointing out every loophole that Clinton has jumped through,
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:44 AM
Aug 2016

they'd be removed.

What are you gaining by piling on after you've won?
You look like a bad sport

demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
12. +1
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:52 AM
Aug 2016
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
13. Because it IS an issue with Trump also, and this provides him with a big excuse not to do the one
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:54 AM
Aug 2016

Thing that could result in him losing a ton more voters. And that totally sucks. He should be a mensch and release them and challenge DT to do so too. It makes it seem like it's okay to hide that info- and it is not.

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
16. +1000
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
18. Linking to a factual article is piling on? Bernie is still a player, he is looking to become
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

chairman of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. I disagree with his lack of transparency and do not particularly care if you think stating truth is being a bad sport.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
20. Never have been fond of sore winners.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
23. Always the same people over and over and over again. n/t
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:08 AM
Aug 2016

MattP

(3,304 posts)
6. No point to this anymore
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:37 AM
Aug 2016
 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. this kind of post helps Donald Trump by antagonizing people who voted
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:55 AM
Aug 2016

for Sanders in the primary.

Completely pointless.

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
21. Ridiculous. Will Bernie voters now vote for Trump if they read it somewhere else on the internet
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:04 AM
Aug 2016

or just here?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
33. rubbing salt in the wounds.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:46 AM
Aug 2016

Certainly during the primary this sort of thing was valid for litigating. One could even argue that, yes, it would have been better if he had done so.

But, water under the bridge.

Iggo

(49,927 posts)
17. Keep fighting that primary!
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

mahina

(20,645 posts)
22. Bernie doesn't have to jack shit.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:05 AM
Aug 2016

"If he wants to maintain his persona as the man of honesty and integrity?"

I don't think Bernie gives a rats about that cosmetic jive. He IS a man of honesty and integrity.

The OP is reliving the primary and in so doing deserves to be deleted.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
24. WHo honestly gives a shit?
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:10 AM
Aug 2016

Oh wait, I know who. The never-letting-it-fucking-go society, that's who.

I look forward to their complaints about Bernie they will post in December of 2024 during the waning days of the last Clinton administration.

demmiblue

(39,719 posts)
25. You Better Believe It!!11!! n/t
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:13 AM
Aug 2016
 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
27. At this point it doesn't matter, but I havta say that...
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:14 AM
Aug 2016

... number of us CALLED IT.

He knew he was going to lose and wanted to avoid the disclosure of potentially embarrassing information. Same this with his taxes. All that BS about them "not being done," was a delaying tactic.

Now let me be clear. I don't really care. I think sanders is honest and sincere, and I think he means what he says as far as his policies go (though I disagree with him on a number points there).

But I do think that like a lot of folks, he and his wife have managed some level of success, and I REALLY suspect that Jane got a sweet deal when she left the presidency of that college she ran. That could potentially have hurt his message, and he wanted to avoid it, IMO.

But at the end of the day? Meaningless.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
28. Lolz...all the outrage kicking this thread again & again & again
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:16 AM
Aug 2016

Seems everybody, all of us, needs to let it go. In doing so, this thread dies as it should.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
29. The Primary is over. Let kick Trump's rump.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:18 AM
Aug 2016

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
34. Sanders has endorsed Hillary and is fighting for her to be elected.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:53 AM
Aug 2016

There is no need for this kind of criticism anymore.

seaglass

(8,185 posts)
35. This is hurting people's feelings so I am deleting.
Thu Aug 18, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

How Bernie Sanders beat the clock — and avoided disclosure
...But when federal law required Sanders to reveal, by mid-May, current details of his personal finances, his campaign lawyer asked the Federal Election Commission for a 45-day extension.

Request granted.

On June 30, Sanders’ campaign requested a second 45-day extension, saying the senator had “good cause” to delay because of his “current campaign schedule and officeholder duties.”

Again, regulators approved Sanders’ punt.

Now that Sanders’ second extension has expired, spokesman Michael Briggs confirmed to the Center for Public Integrity that the senator won’t file a presidential campaign personal financial disclosure after all.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2016/08/18/20074/how-bernie-sanders-beat-clock-and-avoided-disclosure

He legally doesn't have to file this but if he wants to maintain his persona as the man of honesty and integrity he will. Do you think it's reasonable to expect transparency from Bernie?

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