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Not. The. Onion.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/08/18/anti-semitic-trump-advisor-says-holocaust-never-happened-because-the-ovens-were-too-small/
McClatchy reports that Joseph Schmitzs bigotry has gotten him into some pretty serious hot water. For starters, hes accused of bragging about getting Jewish coworkers fired back when he was the inspector general for George W. Bushs Defense Dept....
Oh, but wait. The plot sickens. In the same complaint, Daniel Meyer declared that John Crane, another top Pentagon official at the time, insists Joseph Schmitz is a Holocaust denier.
In his final days, he allegedly lectured Mr. Crane on the details of concentration camps and how the ovens were too small to kill 6 million Jews.
Thats right. Joseph Schmitz (allegedly!) claimed that theres no way the Holocaust happened because those ovens at Auschwitz were too small to kill six million Jews. First of all, Nazi Germany didnt actually bake their Jewish prisoners in the ovens. They used the ovens to cremate them. Second of all, anyone who has actually visited the sites of Auschwitz and other concentration camps can see that those ovens were definitely big enough.
chillfactor
(7,694 posts)seeks advice from an anti-semitic....makes sense to t-rump.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)I'm sure recruitment and activity in the Ku Klux Klan has increased, as a result of the type media attention Trump antics propagate.
ryan_cats
(2,061 posts)Well, too small to fit six million at once but I am pretty sure they did a few at a time. I could see how he could make this mistake...
I have never, ever seen someone so tone deaf. GWB is FDR compared to this guy.
DURHAM D
(33,085 posts)The tour guide told us the ovens and gas showers were never used. Immediately everyone started calling the guide out. I wonder if they are still telling the same lies.
When I visited Auschwitz/Treblinka/Buchenwald in the late 70s they told no such lies. Perhaps because the guides were Polish.
unblock
(56,243 posts)among other stories, he said he was forced to build a platform for hanging prisoners and was told they would test it out on him.
obviously, they didn't, but death threats of that sort were any every day occurrence. of course, they did kill prisoners more than enough so that the death threats felt very real.
DURHAM D
(33,085 posts)your guide. Was he a political prisoner or a minority?
btw - - Did they have any displays/information in English. When I was there most of the people around me were Brits and they were pissed off about nothing in English.
When I was in Poland everything was printed/displayed in Polish, German, Russian and English.
unblock
(56,243 posts)i also don't remember if the signs were in english. my mother is a holocaust survivor, born in vienna, so she spoke german. i do remember her translating signs and such throughout west germany; she might have translated the displays at dachau and now in my memory i just remember seeing and understanding them. sorry, i was only 8 years old at the time!
one more bit i do remember, we had to stop and ask a local for directions. turns out it was just another 1/4 mile up the same road, but the local had no idea where it was. my nature is to take people at their word, but my father was uncharacteristically upset when we found the concentration camp entrance a minute later. he insisted (reasonably enough, in retrospect) that there was no way they couldn't know they lived practically next door it.
OnDoutside
(20,868 posts)Sgent
(5,858 posts)the ones at Dachau were never used. They didn't want the exterminations going on in Germany itself. Not to say they didn't find other ways of killing people there.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)it's likely they would have reached, collectively, the 6 million number without difficulty, by war's end. The math is easy - 1,000 concentration camps (though there were thousands more) * 12 (murders per day) * 365 (days/years) = 4,380,000.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)and this bullshit new campaign crapola ain't gonna work.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)These are the sort of cretins that trump has surrounded himself with.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)I took a look at Breitbart today. For all intents and purposes, it's this generation's version of Der Sturmer
Rex
(65,616 posts)Fucking idiots.
Major Nikon
(36,927 posts)No less than 3 people are making the same allegations against him, but they are all lying while he is telling the truth.
His dad was also an anti-Semite. Looks like the nut didn't fall too far from the tree.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)According to the Nazis' racist ideology, Arabs and other Muslims are racial Semites and thus subhumans, similar to Jews. Millions of Gypsies, Muslims and Jews were exterminated in Auschwitz. At this particular Nazi camp of disease, starvation and torture, Doctor Mengele (aka The Angel of Death) conducted perverse experiments on prisoners.

Also, the Warsaw Ghetto, called Jüdischer Wohnbezirk in Warschau, by Hitler, was the Jewish residential district in Poland and the largest of all the ghettos in Nazi-occupied Europe during World War II. It was established in the Muranów neighborhood of the Polish capital between October and November 16, 1940, part of the territory of the General Government of German-occupied Poland, with over 400,000 Jews from the vicinity residing in an area of 3.4 km2 (1.3 sq mi). From there, at least 254,000 Ghetto residents were sent to the Treblinka extermination camp over the course of two months in the summer of 1942.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Think of all the money the Top 1% of wealth-holders will save, after Trump and other Republicans destroy and loot Social Security Disability Income and replace it with their special brand of childcare:


Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)
Behind the Aegis
(56,181 posts)Also, 6 million Jews weren't "sent to the ovens". You can always tell someone is an ahistorical asshole when they think all six million of my people were sent to "the ovens."
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)Others were tortured to death in hideous ways, simply to entertain Nazis. Your history is accurate. There were hundreds of ways to die in Auschwitz.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)that the main oven was big enough to fit perhaps 100 people at a time, maybe more depending on how tight they were being corralled. There are estimates in the tens of thousands as to the number of concentration camps in WWII Germany, but for argument's sake, let's say there were only 1,000.
To murder 6,000,000 people, they'd each need to murder 16 people per day, every day, for only 1 years' time. A place like Auschwitz, which could accommodate a large number of death row concentration camp residents, would be able to meet that number many times over in a single gassing.
struggle4progress
(126,605 posts)We talk with best-selling author Jo Gobbles, author of last year's best-seller The Most Misunderstood Austrian Painter
Gobbles new research shows that WWII was nothing but Communist propaganda and that the Americans who "fought" in the "war" were deceived!