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bigtree

(94,261 posts)
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:41 AM Jun 2012

BREAKING: President Obama To Stop Deporting DREAM-Eligible Youth

from ThinkProgress: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/15/500227/obama-to-protect-undocumented-students/


Jun 15, 2012 at 9:26 am

President Obama will announce a new immigration policy this morning that will allow some undocumented students to avoid deportation and receive work authorization.

Under the president’s “deferred action” executive order, students in the U.S. who are already in deportation proceedings or those who qualify for the DREAM Act and have yet to come forward to Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials, will not be deported and will be allowed to work in the United States.

An estimated 1 million young people could benefit from the deferral. To be eligible, applicants have to be between 15 and 30 years old, live in the U.S. for five years, and maintain continuous U.S. residency. People who have one felony, one serious misdemeanor, or three minor misdemeanors will be ineligible to apply. “Deferred action” will last for two years and can be renewed.

Obama is expected to speak about this new policy later today.

Obama’s announcement will create a smart policy to help protect young adults at risk of deportation who have spent years establishing their homes in the United States while boosting the U.S. economy.


read: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/06/15/500227/obama-to-protect-undocumented-students/


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BREAKING: President Obama To Stop Deporting DREAM-Eligible Youth (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2012 OP
Good start on a rational and compassionate approach. pinto Jun 2012 #1
great move bigtree Jun 2012 #2
and the banshee-like, ear-splitting wails the Congressional Republicans will make this afternoon.... Volaris Jun 2012 #23
Telemundo's Jose Diaz Balart just said on MSNBC, 'This is a big (pause) deal!' flpoljunkie Jun 2012 #26
i say its about time! liberalnationalist Jun 2012 #3
I can see why they held back while trying to pass the Act bigtree Jun 2012 #4
Due process. Igel Jun 2012 #22
Kick pinto Jun 2012 #5
k&DUrec JTFrog Jun 2012 #6
Finally some commonsense. (n/t) spin Jun 2012 #7
Awesome- I see these kids every day! w8liftinglady Jun 2012 #8
these youth are their best advocates bigtree Jun 2012 #10
DU rec...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #9
Great to hear! morningfog Jun 2012 #11
There is nothing but good and wonderful in this action Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2012 #12
You think that many are actually deported? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2012 #13
There was an article in WAPO last weekend brer cat Jun 2012 #14
while it's clear that you can't realistically remove the millions of students from the country bigtree Jun 2012 #16
I've taught in an immigrant community for 3 decades. Yes, deportations happen daily. proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #17
yes, they have been deported at a very high rate Enrique Jun 2012 #20
I work across the street from ICE. I see 2-4 huge bus loads of human beings Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #27
Yes, I get several emails a week about a student facing deportation. EFerrari Jun 2012 #29
Awesome news! proud2BlibKansan Jun 2012 #15
I agree. This is wonderful news... YvonneCa Jun 2012 #24
This is great news nt steve2470 Jun 2012 #18
congratulations dreamers!!! Slit Skirt Jun 2012 #19
This is great news, and most welcome! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2012 #21
Good. As long as the kids don't get into trouble with the law for some other reason, JDPriestly Jun 2012 #25
Congratulations to the activists WHO VOTE who wouldn't let go of this issue. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #28
K & R Scurrilous Jun 2012 #30
kick. Freeperland must be going crazy. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #31
For the record,The readers of The Dallas Morning News would love to see mass deportation w8liftinglady Jun 2012 #32
And with this announcement, the race is over before it even got started. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #33
I was forced to watch Dylan Ratigan today. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #34

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
2. great move
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:52 AM
Jun 2012

. . . so many young folks in limbo and just anguished over it. I can just hear the celebrations, and imagine the relief they and their families must feel.

Volaris

(11,704 posts)
23. and the banshee-like, ear-splitting wails the Congressional Republicans will make this afternoon....
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:41 AM
Jun 2012

maybe we should mail them something to whip themselves with while they wander the halls of Congress in their grief-stricken state....

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
26. Telemundo's Jose Diaz Balart just said on MSNBC, 'This is a big (pause) deal!'
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jun 2012

Definitely, a big deal.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
4. I can see why they held back while trying to pass the Act
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 10:06 AM
Jun 2012

. . . but it's clear that there will be no movement in Congress on the bill, so it make sense to just go ahead and make a stand to keep these youth from being deported. I do appreciate and understand the position that it's overdue. Politics always seems to me like it should be a secondary concern to folks' lives, but I'm not a politician with the responsibility for advancing legislation.

Igel

(37,535 posts)
22. Due process.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:40 AM
Jun 2012

It's clear that due process is violated when there's a harsher application of the law for some groups and not for others. If I enforce traffic regs on African-Americans and let whites go unwarned and unticketed, I have problems. If I let richer people driving fancy cars go unticketed while hitting poorer people hard, mostly those driving old, cheap cars, then I have problems. Unless, of course, there's a good reason for it: I'd assume that most safety violations would be on old, cheap cars.

What about this? The law is clear, but an exception is being carved out for some groups. Some groups have the process enforced on them with greater severity and rigor; others are all but excluded from the process. This isn't because one group is more likely to violate the rules than the other--the old/cheap versus new/expensive car distinction I assumed in the previous paragraph. It's because one group is especially despised or another is especially liked.

We pitch a fit and cry "violation of due process" and "discrimination" when the law is actually color-blind: Most illegal immigrants to the US are Latinos, so any enforcement action that affects all groups equaly will wind up affecting--proportionately--mostly Latinos. (For "disproportionate" you'd need to know the relative percentages of ethnic groups in the illegal immigrant population and then compare that with enforcement percentages.)

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
8. Awesome- I see these kids every day!
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 10:44 AM
Jun 2012

Their parents want the best for them,just like my great-grandparents did when they arrived at Ellis Island in 1906.

Positive reinforcement is the best tool for success.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
10. these youth are their best advocates
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:00 AM
Jun 2012

my hat's off to them . . . my heart is with them always

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
12. There is nothing but good and wonderful in this action
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jun 2012

It's long overdue and it's very welcome.

Now, legalize pot!

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
13. You think that many are actually deported?
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:07 AM
Jun 2012

In my office I see undocumented immigrants all the time, many with childen, born here and abroad, and we are not even allowed, nor are we supposed to alert INS. In all my years never has anyone of my clients faced deportation, them our their children.

brer cat

(27,587 posts)
14. There was an article in WAPO last weekend
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jun 2012

about a young woman in Virginia, I believe, who was to be deported days after her HS graduation. She had been in this country since childhood and was an excellent student. It was a very sad story. I hope she is one who will be eligible to stay now.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
16. while it's clear that you can't realistically remove the millions of students from the country
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:18 AM
Jun 2012

. . . the answer is yes, many youth have been deported and many others were at risk before today. This should clarify and enhance an earlier order by the president to deport only those undocumented students "who pose a threat to public safety and national security." We'll get a clearer picture of the order later today.

When Republicans in Congress filibustered the most recent attempt to pass the DREAM Act in the summer of 2010, President Obama responded by instructing his administration’s Department of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement to adjust its criteria for pursuing the deportation of undocumented students in an attempt to curb what had become a string of very public attempts to expel students from the country.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/05/438041/another-undocumented-student-faces-possible-deportation-despite-new-directive-from-president-obama/


proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
17. I've taught in an immigrant community for 3 decades. Yes, deportations happen daily.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:23 AM
Jun 2012

Any time the immigrants have an encounter with law enforcement, deportation is a possibility. I can't count the number of times a student has been absent for several days and comes back to tell us his dad or mom or grandpa or grandma is in jail and the family was involved in trying to prevent a deportation. We also have an increase in kids who are gone for weeks at a time because the family went to Mexico or Dominican Republic or some other Central American country to visit a recently deported relative.

Here's how it works - the immigrant is picked up by local cops who turn him over to ICE. They incarcerate him at a facility close to the airport (very far from the community where our immigrants live) and hold them for 10 days. If the family is able to raise $3000 bail, the immigrant is released and has 30 days to leave the country voluntarily. He is allowed to come back legally in the future. If they are not able to raise the bail, the immigrant is deported and banned from ever again coming to the US.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
20. yes, they have been deported at a very high rate
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:34 AM
Jun 2012

the overall situation in the country doesn't match what you are seeing in your office.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
27. I work across the street from ICE. I see 2-4 huge bus loads of human beings
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:36 PM
Jun 2012

brought in every day.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
29. Yes, I get several emails a week about a student facing deportation.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jun 2012

This sounds like a good plan. However, we've seen this promise before. I hope it gets done this time.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
24. I agree. This is wonderful news...
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 11:44 AM
Jun 2012


...from the Obama Administration. As a retired California teacher, so many bright, hard-working students I taught were caught up in this trap through no fault of their own. Facing a future where...no matter how hard they studied and worked and succeeded in the school system...their dreams of jobs, college and living the American Dream were blocked which often led to dropping out from school and/or just giving up on education. Motivation suffered. As a teacher, there was little I could do other than promise them that one day things would get better.

Now these students will see a clear path to success and their dreams for the future. That motivation will carry over into the classroom and propel more kids into college. Teachers won't have to just promise, they will be able to help students reach their goals.

This is FANTASTIC news! This is a PROMISE KEPT.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Good. As long as the kids don't get into trouble with the law for some other reason,
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 12:25 PM
Jun 2012

they will be able to stay. Here in California, we have so many children who are Americans by culture and language, but foreigners by place of birth and parentage. Let's keep them here where they belong.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
33. And with this announcement, the race is over before it even got started.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 05:21 PM
Jun 2012

Bye-bye, Mitt.

President Obama is going to beat Romney by a wider margin than he beat McCain just 4 short years ago.
Incredible.

AJTheMan

(288 posts)
34. I was forced to watch Dylan Ratigan today.
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 05:23 PM
Jun 2012

While i was working out at 24 hour fitness, i turned on MSNBC on the treadmill. Now normally I get to the gym at 2:00pm, in perfect time to watch Martin Bashir. This time I was running late so I tried watching Dylan Ratigan. He said that the President's plan to help out young immigrants was "pandering" and that both he and Mitt Romney are pandering. Dylan needs to have his head checked. He should be working for Fox News.

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