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"I will be able to work with the people who have held the US hostage for 3.5 years, because they have been holding a place for a republican president since the evening of Obama's inauguration.
These people and the corporations/banks who own & operate them have been withholding finance, support and assistance to the public, to ensure that a democratic president would fail, thus setting the stage for a republican (even one they do not like much) to assume their "rightful" place at the helm...even if it created misery & suffering for the American people they are sent to serve."
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They are little more than extortionists who have been crushing every plan that could have helped all along, but are so indignant at the fact that a democrat dared to win the election that they are willing to tank the economy to get their way.
Really since Nixon, and especially Reagan, republicanism has been the default position for the presidency. Any dem president who manages to get into office is either pilloried and run out of office (see Carter), or has to bend to the desires of the republicans to get along, and rarely accomplishes anything that the democratic base sees as worthy (see Clinton)...and even when they "play ball", they are never "safe"..(see Clinton).
Dems in congress almost always are willing to compromise with the nastiest republicans, because they see a "penny" as something to be semi-proud of, even though they asked for a "quarter".
Republicans (of late) are unwilling to budge on anything not proposed by their membership, and even then if too many wishywashy dems go along, they will even shitcan their own ideas, just so they are never accused of compromise.
mlevans
(843 posts)But you know, I believe he'd even flip-flop on this if he thought it would get him a few more votes.
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)Carter was the first president which I really remember with any details. The only thing I remember about Nixon was the Watergate hearings interrupting my Mother's and Grandmother's "stories" (that is a soap opera, I don't know how far out of the deep south that term is used). I remember Ford tripping all the time but nothing about his being president.
But, since Carter I have observed the same thing you have, with each Republican moving more conservative-obstructionist giving to the rich while taking from the poor and hurting the economy in the process. Then a Democrat fixes the problem just to give the job back to Republicans to do it again.
onlyadream
(2,165 posts)Because I'm in the same boat. The fact that Reagan undermined Carter, illegally (arms for hostages) told me something at a young age. Even tho I was registered as a republican, I got a real bad taste when I saw Reagan testifying that he didn't remember what he did on some particular date. I knew he was lying because, at the time, even I had a journal to keep track of things. He was the freaking president of the USA!
Then I saw how they went after Clinten and was astounded how they just couldn't let an elected president do his job! By this time I was a democrat (after Bush 1). The stolen election from Gore, the swift boating of Kerry really told me what these corrupt thugs are about. I also predicted the whole Iraq war thing since they never let the inspectors do their jobs, it was all a farce.
I still remember right after 9/11 tuning into Fox "News", not knowing they were a corrupt GOP machine, and their views were horrifying.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)...unless there is an overwhelming Dem majority (real Dems, not DINOs) in the next Congress. Seems that the choice this election is between Republicans wrecking the economy on purpose, as they have been for the last two years, or doing it by accident, like they did between 2000 and 2008. I'll brobably get flamed for saying that, but nothing would make me happier than to be proved wrong.