Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:24 PM
Stellar (5,644 posts)
Leaked 2015 Memo Told Dems: ‘Don’t Offer Support’ For Black Lives Matter Policy Positions
The memo lists several suggestions for how Democratic congressional candidates should handle an encounter with a Black Lives Matter activist.
MORE: HuffPo
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Stellar | Aug 2016 | OP |
Iliyah | Aug 2016 | #1 | |
Stellar | Aug 2016 | #2 | |
Deuce | Aug 2016 | #7 | |
KeepItReal | Aug 2016 | #3 | |
riversedge | Aug 2016 | #9 | |
Stellar | Sep 2016 | #16 | |
La Lioness Priyanka | Aug 2016 | #4 | |
KMOD | Aug 2016 | #5 | |
ehrnst | Sep 2016 | #15 | |
Blue_Tires | Sep 2016 | #21 | |
NCTraveler | Aug 2016 | #6 | |
Lancero | Aug 2016 | #8 | |
ehrnst | Sep 2016 | #14 | |
Nuclear Unicorn | Sep 2016 | #19 | |
ehrnst | Sep 2016 | #20 | |
Nuclear Unicorn | Sep 2016 | #22 | |
ehrnst | Sep 2016 | #23 | |
demmiblue | Aug 2016 | #10 | |
ehrnst | Sep 2016 | #12 | |
Phlem | Sep 2016 | #17 | |
Arazi | Sep 2016 | #18 | |
ehrnst | Sep 2016 | #11 | |
Brickbat | Sep 2016 | #13 |
Response to Stellar (Original post)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:29 PM
Iliyah (25,111 posts)
1. Already know that, next.
Response to Iliyah (Reply #1)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:45 PM
KeepItReal (7,768 posts)
3. Either you're privy to DCCC emails or you're from the future
This is a brand new release of information for us non-DCCC staff.
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Response to Iliyah (Reply #1)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:31 PM
riversedge (65,482 posts)
9. One thing for
sure. WE--Dems--did not need this. Just saw this.
http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/08/31/breaking-nancy-pelosi-hacked-career-ending-documents-revealed-leaked-documents/ |
Response to riversedge (Reply #9)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 12:21 PM
Stellar (5,644 posts)
16. Whao!
You know what, I don't care what's on any leaked document because their looking for away to destroy Hillary as well as the Democratic party - true or not, I don't think anything could be as bad as letting Trump win the election. We might as well suck it up and move right along. Also, I posted this same thread on the AA community board and some seem to think it fraudulent, so who knows.
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Response to Stellar (Original post)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:47 PM
La Lioness Priyanka (53,866 posts)
4. i read the document and i found it actually quite useful
for instance they advise democrats well on avoiding using red herring, avoid co opting the movement, to invite and encourage contact with BLM activists.
I kinda find taking one sentence out of context to be a bit dishonest. I know it gets clicks but the actual memo is definitely not disparaging of BLM |
Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #4)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 03:55 PM
KMOD (7,906 posts)
5. I agree.
To me it reads like, how not to look like a clueless idiot when talking to members of the Black Lives Matter Movement.
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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #4)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:48 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
15. To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail
As the saying goes.
There are "progressives" that have butthurt concerning the primaries, and see validation everywhere.... |
Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #4)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:03 AM
Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)
21. +1000
Response to Stellar (Original post)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 04:01 PM
NCTraveler (30,481 posts)
6. Excellent document. This is the type of thing I expect from Democrats. nt.
Response to Stellar (Original post)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:22 PM
Lancero (2,804 posts)
8. Interesting guidelines. BLM doesn't seem to agree with them though.
Say you 'understand their concerns' but refuse to support 'concrete policy' (That would address it) - Give them nothing but lip service in otherwords.
“Invited BLM attendees should be limited. Please aim for personal or small group meetings." - Small groups only, keep them weak, because we don't want them to get any signifigant attention. Again, give them some lip service. And it seems that BLM reads the memo similar judging by their statement over it. We are disappointed at the DCCC’s placating response to our demand to value all Black life. Black communities deserve to be heard, not handled. People are dying. https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatter/posts/634358056735443 |
Response to Lancero (Reply #8)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:46 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
14. You added a lot of verbiage there
"Small groups only, keep them weak, because we don't want them to get any signifigant attention. Again, give them some lip service."
So if that's what they meant, why do you think that they didn't specify that? Everyone is "handled" in an election, including the candidate. Obama wouldn't meet with Islamic groups during his first campaign because of being careful on messaging in a climate that was equating him with being a muslim, and a radical one. Campaigns are about optics - including Bernie's shutting down of a rally when BLM activists took the mic. Pearl clutching going on here. |
Response to ehrnst (Reply #14)
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 10:09 PM
Nuclear Unicorn (19,497 posts)
19. "Campaigns are about optics"
I live for the day when we have a political (r)evolution that leads the pols to embrace candor as a strategy for optics.
Either support a thing or don't or make your own proposal but for the love of all that is good stop hedging and prevaricating. |
Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #19)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 08:18 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
20. "Optics' was around even before the televised debate between Nixon and Kennedy.
"Ceasar's wife must be above reproach."
And you still haven't explained why you think that they meant "give them nothing but lip service" when they said to have small meetings? And you can dream of a world where people don't care about body language, turn of phrase, slips of the tongue, and the facial expressions, and who stands in a photo of politicians, and are happy to just read printouts of their policy statements. But where would we put all those unicorns? |
Response to ehrnst (Reply #20)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:40 AM
Nuclear Unicorn (19,497 posts)
22. Honest question: Did you intend to reply to Lancero instead of me?
Response to Nuclear Unicorn (Reply #22)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:13 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
23. Oops - yes. (nt)
Response to Stellar (Original post)
Wed Aug 31, 2016, 05:36 PM
demmiblue (35,465 posts)
10. Some Democrats are disparaged when they step aside to let BLM members speak...
and some Democrats are applauded for trying to silence their voices.
What a strange dichotomy. |
Response to demmiblue (Reply #10)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:42 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
12. Yep. Sound about right. (nt)
Response to demmiblue (Reply #10)
Mon Sep 5, 2016, 06:58 PM
Phlem (6,323 posts)
17. Painfully NOT Strange for me.
It's actually more sad.
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Response to Stellar (Original post)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:36 AM
ehrnst (32,640 posts)
11. I thought it was a great policy piece. For internal use, but good nonetheless.
Especially:
Be a partner and lead from behind," reads the memo to DCCC staff, dated Nov. 19, 2015. "BLM activists don't want their movement co-opted by the Democratic Party. They are leary [sic] of politicians who hijack their message to win campaigns." This is language used for internal use, not for public talking points. Much like the Planned Parenthood sting video caught medical professionals talking casually about "tissue collection" with other professionals, in a setting that was not the same as talking to the public about it. This made the pro-life community clutch their pearls in horror, even though anyone in the medical profession could tell you about conversations they had with each other using wording they would never use with the patient or family. Sounds like exactly what the BLM was asking them to do, but worded in a way that wasn't crafted for the public. If indeed these documents weren't altered. ![]() |
Response to Stellar (Original post)
Thu Sep 1, 2016, 11:45 AM
Brickbat (19,339 posts)