He Filmed The Death Of Eric Garner. Now He’s Getting Ready To Spend 4 Years In Prison.

[KamaAina]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ramsey-orta-eric-garner_us_57a9edbde4b0aae2a5a15142

On July 17, 2014, Orta lifted up his Galaxy Exhibit phone and recorded arguably one of the most infamous videos in American history. Two years later, he’s a long way from Staten Island, on a couch next to an air conditioner in a cramped Las Vegas apartment.

Earlier this summer, a judge in New York granted Orta permission to stay in Nevada, where his wife lives, until October. Then, he’ll have to fly back to New York to start a four-year prison sentence, the result of a plea deal on gun and drug charges stemming back to 2014....

Orta was also arrested on multiple other drug charges in June of that year. He spent seven days in jail but the charges were later dismissed. This summer, he filed a blistering $10 million lawsuit against the city alleging the arrests were retaliation against him for “exercising his First Amendment rights in protesting police brutality.”

“Instead of winning accolades for his professional journalism and/or being praised by the media for his exposure of brutal police tactics and the failure of EMTs to assist victims of Police Brutality, (Orta) was maligned and smeared by the NYPD, (and) arrested continually on false and/or trumped up charges,” the lawsuit states.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

1. Omg. goddammit.

GODDAMMIT, this is so wrong.

[trof]

2. I have no idea what this is about.

[KamaAina]

7. The guy who filmed the NYPD murdering Eric Garner was harassed by the NYPDin retaliation.

And is now facing four years.

[Stellar]

3. So...payback is a beotch, I guess!

[Takket]

4. If you think that is bad, look at Kaepernik's socks!!!!!!!!!!

[lapucelle]

5. Apparently this was a plea deal,

so Orta was compelled to admit guilt in exchange for the lighter sentence. That admission will make it difficult for him to win his civil suit.

I grew up on Staten Island. Here's the coverage from the borough's newspaper, the Staten Island Advance.

http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2016/07/ramsey_orta_admits_guilt.html

[Travis_0004]

6. So should heroin dealers get a pass because they once filmed a video?

[wildeyed]

8. Whatever.

What I read is that cops busted in on him and "found" drugs. Just like they "saw" him put the gun in someone else's waistband.

The NYPD cops do not have a sterling record for honesty. they do have a strong history of harassment and retaliation against anyone who tries to hold them accountable for their misdeeds. As a result, I do not believe their accusations. The timing is too perfect.

Let's ask the important question now. Do the cops get a pass on the death of Eric Garner? You betcha!

[lapucelle]

9. I live in NY, so I'm a little bewildered by this statement:

"The NYPD cops do not have a sterling record for honesty. They do have a strong history of harassment and retaliation against anyone who tries to hold them accountable for their misdeeds."

There are over 35,000 cops in NYC. Do you have any evidence of the "strong history of harassment and retaliation"?

In addition, Orta has an extensive record that predates the video. He admitted to the charges in his plea deal.

[wildeyed]

10. Yes.

lol

Google "nypd history of corruption". Here is a short list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department_corruption_and_misconduct

[lapucelle]

11. Your claim said that there is a strong history of "harassment and retaliation" by the NYPD

The article you link to concerns misconduct and corruption. This is not the same thing as retaliation.

In addition, Wiki warns the reader, "this article has multiple issues", noting "the neutrality of this article is dispute" and "this article's tone or style may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia". You might want to look for more reliable evidence.

Finally, there are 35,000 cops in the city. The article you site delineates 70 cases, the first one occurring in 1962. That's 70 examples in 54 years. Two of the examples of "corruption or misconduct" concern off duty cops exercising their constitutional right to peacefully protest.

So much for the strong history of harassment and retaliation"...

[wildeyed]

12. It is the same thing.

Seems like you know exactly what I said and exactly what I meant, but for whatever reason, you want to have an argument about semantics, not about the actual issue. Because clearly "harassment and retaliation" would be included in the "misconduct" category, wouldn't you agree? Try making a Venn diagram for yourself if you are having trouble understanding. Not all police misconduct is harassment and retaliation, but all harassment and retaliation is misconduct. Agreed? Or don't agree. Either way, I am done because this is a silly argument.

Broken window policing. Serpico. Louis Scarcella. Yada yada. Google. I feel you know exactly what I meant already.

I never said all NYPD cops were bad. You know that too. It is some kind of ridiculous logical fallacy to demand that I list every instance, but I am too bored with this to remember what it is called. Fallacy of Specificity? Crap, I tried to remember anyway. See? This is why I hate this message board shit sometimes, such a time suck and for what?

[mythology]

13. Perhaps you'd prefer a nice echo chamber where nobody challenges your claims

But you're claiming that the prior bad acts of other cops are proof positive that this arrest was bad, but the prior bad acts of the career criminal are irrelevant. I get it. It's easy to argue against a caricature, but the real world doesn't work that way. The guy can both have filmed Garner being killed and be a criminal himself. The world isn't black and white.

And you absolutely were implying that all of NYPD was corrupt, hence why you gave a wikipedia link going back decades. You have presented absolutely no evidence for why this particular case is corrupt other than you want it to be. People far too often believe what they want to believe rather than looking at the facts of a specific case.

Other than you want this to be a conspiracy, what exactly makes you think it is?

[lapucelle]

15. I thought that you meant what you actually said:

"The NYPD cops do not have a sterling record for honesty. they do have a strong history of harassment and retaliation against anyone who tries to hold them accountable."

It would seem to me that this claim should be supported by relevant evidence.

The fallacy of specificity involves using stereotypes to make generalizations. The the fallacy of affirming the consequence involves the assumption that because a set exists, all subsets exist as well.

As for the claim of "semantics", morphing the meaning of a key term in an argument is called a scope shift.

[Separation]

14. Watch out!

You are very close to being labeled as a cop loving apologist, or a paid troll.

[wildeyed]

17. No one said that but you.

Your post is ad hominem bullshit.

[Separation]

18. Im sorry, I didn't realize my comment was directed towards you.

Dont really care what you think of my comment.

[TipTok]

16. What does one have to do with the other?

Not much...