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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:39 PM Sep 2016

Black children take a knee in protest, and are being called n----rs and threatened with lynching

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-black-children-threatened-knee-protest-article-1.2788828

This weekend, children as young as 11 and 12 years old, inspired by San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick's decision to take a knee during “The Star Spangled Banner” as a protest against continued injustice and police brutality in America, decided to take their own knee to protest the injustice that has troubled them in America.

The Beaumont Bulls are a team of elementary and middle school-age boys from Beaumont, Texas. On Saturday morning, before their game, every player and coach decided to take a knee in solidarity with Kaepernick and the growing list of NFL players who have done the same thing. Within hours of the news breaking locally, parents say, death threats and racial slurs began pouring in.

April Parkerson, whose son plays on the team said, "Our children are receiving death threats from people saying things like hang those monkeys, they should've died on 9/11, and they're going to kill each other anyway."

Remember, these are little boys who took a knee at a youth football game.


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Black children take a knee in protest, and are being called n----rs and threatened with lynching (Original Post) KamaAina Sep 2016 OP
The reaction illustrates a huge part of the problem. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2016 #1
Donnie's Deplorables major debacle Sep 2016 #2
You win the thread malaise Sep 2016 #4
Drop the mic. There's nothing more to say! 11 Bravo Sep 2016 #6
Great name for a Punk band! johnp3907 Sep 2016 #7
Yes blueseas Sep 2016 #11
There certainly seems to be a lot of Caucasians angry at the lack of symbolic obeisanc LanternWaste Sep 2016 #3
Deplorable. sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #5
White People: 'Hey, all those black people should protest peacefully and quietly!' underahedgerow Sep 2016 #8
Yep gratuitous Sep 2016 #12
Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #17
Gov. Bevin of Kentucky, for example gratuitous Sep 2016 #21
Check this out. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #22
Sure if you want to play the lets lump all people together game Egnever Sep 2016 #28
Yup! mountain grammy Sep 2016 #31
The ones wigging out about black people not standing for the Special Song... backscatter712 Sep 2016 #9
Thread winnah. forest444 Sep 2016 #23
TruckNutz... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #25
never heard of this "take a knee" barbtries Sep 2016 #10
You haven't heard of it? Been asleep the last month? brush Sep 2016 #13
People can tune out all things football and not realize there are bigger things going on with it Blue_Adept Sep 2016 #19
nope. barbtries Sep 2016 #30
Yes, that is what they did... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #26
thank you awoke barbtries Sep 2016 #32
No problem awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #33
They heard from tRump voters. kairos12 Sep 2016 #14
Bet those idiot white people blame Obama for gettin' em all uppity. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #15
I want some of that action. It's a sure bet. Missn-Hitch Sep 2016 #18
"They should have died in 9/11" - Wait, weren't they not alive then? Oneironaut Sep 2016 #16
^^^ THIS!!! ^^^ KamaAina Sep 2016 #36
And In Addition. . . ProfessorGAC Sep 2016 #39
Good on those kids GeoWilliam750 Sep 2016 #20
We are also being tartegeted Coolest Ranger Sep 2016 #24
This country keeps getting nuttier... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #27
Those threats and crude name calling Dorian Gray Sep 2016 #29
the basket of deplorables, spill over. eom salin Sep 2016 #34
Thx M$M for normalizing hatred, they'll act like they've played no part. uponit7771 Sep 2016 #35
Yes, because nothing says patriotic respect for American values like freedom Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #37
I have a friend married to a Trump supporter womanofthehills Sep 2016 #38
All lives matter Orrex Sep 2016 #40
This La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #41
This old white woman wrote a LTTE published in the Raleigh paper last week mnhtnbb Sep 2016 #42
Gosh, I love our post-racial society! KamaAina Sep 2016 #43

johnp3907

(3,733 posts)
7. Great name for a Punk band!
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 05:14 PM
Sep 2016

If someone uses it I hope within a year or two people will wonder what it means.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. There certainly seems to be a lot of Caucasians angry at the lack of symbolic obeisanc
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 04:50 PM
Sep 2016

There certainly seems to be a lot of Caucasians angry at the lack of symbolic obeisance observed within the black community.

I suppose that when someone is unable to rationalize a even the cheapest of whines about the absolute banality of "the protesters could/might/may make someone ten minutes late to work!!!" then slurs and threats are the last thing in their little quivers they've got, and use them the little fellas will.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
8. White People: 'Hey, all those black people should protest peacefully and quietly!'
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 05:15 PM
Sep 2016

A black man, and now, some black children, protest quietly and while sitting and kneeling.

White People: 'Not like THAT!'

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Yup.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. Yep
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 05:32 PM
Sep 2016

Perhaps the folks so bent out of shape by the quiet protest would be kind enough to favor us with their opinion of what would be acceptable? I know! "Please don't do anything where anyone can see it or hear it or sense it in any other way, and don't be upset about seeing your fellow citizens gunned down in the streets or lynched or maced or whatever. In fact, if you could take these atrocities with the same sang-froid as the racists who like Donald Trump so much, that'd be just about perfect. Mmmmkay?"

Missn-Hitch

(1,383 posts)
17. Hear, hear!!
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:27 PM
Sep 2016

Outstanding!

Things are getting crazy. As Prince would say, "F*** it dude, let's go crazy, let's get nuts!" Despite the outcome in November, these people are calling for armed revolt. I call this "chatter". I hope we all stay alert and prepared. Cheers!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Gov. Bevin of Kentucky, for example
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

He's tried to walk back his comments a little bit, but he knows as well as any of the rest of us who heard what he had to say to the Values Voters Summit that he was calling for armed revolt if he and his buddies don't get their way in November. Bevin also knows that in the audience his comments reach (both in person and the extended audience on line), there will be at least one and probably more who will nod and slaver to his comments, ready to pick up their gun on November 9 and do or die for their twisted version of the USA.

Then Bevin, and Trump, and Conway, and Manafort, and Lewandowski, and Todd, and Lauer, and all the other know-nothing troglodytes will pretend to be shocked that some unstable citizens took the law into their own hands like that, and who could have known such a thing would happen, and it's just too bad about yet another in a long line of lone wolf domestic {s}terrorists{/s} patriots going off like that.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
28. Sure if you want to play the lets lump all people together game
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:44 PM
Sep 2016

Not sure that works out well but if that is the best your mind can do I understand

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
9. The ones wigging out about black people not standing for the Special Song...
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 05:17 PM
Sep 2016

...are the exact same one who fly the Confederate Battle Flag on their pickups (and don't forget the TruckNutz...)

ProfessorGAC

(65,187 posts)
39. And In Addition. . .
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:19 AM
Sep 2016

. . .how were people in Texas going to be killed by planes hitting buildings in NY and DC? That would be one big building!

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
20. Good on those kids
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 06:36 PM
Sep 2016

I would be proud (and in no small measure, terribly worried) to be their parent.

It is such a pity that we are having to go through all of this yet again. Let us hope that this time we can move the needle further.

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
24. We are also being tartegeted
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:17 PM
Sep 2016

all over social media. Our posts are being reported everywhere. It's getting old

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
27. This country keeps getting nuttier...
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 07:43 PM
Sep 2016

I fear things are going to blow up in some areas after tRump is defeated.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
37. Yes, because nothing says patriotic respect for American values like freedom
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 10:46 PM
Sep 2016

Than demanding blind and unquestioning obedience to ceremonial nationalism, and then backing it up by threatening kids for expressing a dissenting opinion.

womanofthehills

(8,771 posts)
38. I have a friend married to a Trump supporter
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 11:43 PM
Sep 2016

She is planning on leaving him soon, but she told me after her husband saw the football players kneel, he went totally crazy - screaming and stomping around the house - and said he was never going to watch football ever again.

mnhtnbb

(31,404 posts)
42. This old white woman wrote a LTTE published in the Raleigh paper last week
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 09:47 AM
Sep 2016

saying that I plan on remaining seated at any event--concert or sports--when the national anthem is played. I stopped singing it a long
time ago because I didn't like the glorification of war and imperialism in it. Tomorrow night will be a test, because the NC Symphony always
plays the national anthem at their opening concert for the new season. Of course, I'll be in the very blue town of Chapel Hill, so maybe
there will be a few people who will join me in remaining seated.

Here's my letter

In regard to the uproar over San Francisco 49er quarterback Colin Kaepernick not standing for the national anthem prior to football games, this Medicare-card-carrying old white woman decided years ago to stop singing “The Star Spangled Banner” because she didn’t like the fact that it glorified imperialism and war. I had no idea about the other verses. Now that I know, I intend to remain seated whenever it is played –whether at a concert or sporting event – until this country matches the reality of social justice – for all – with its rhetoric. My veteran husband (Major, USAF, retired) has no problem with my position.


On Sunday, the Raleigh paper published a letter from a guy who accused me of historical inaccuracy and called me ""selfish, indecent, and dishonorable" for
not standing for the national anthem.

Here's his letter

The writer of the Sept. 8 letter “Count me in” stopped standing for the anthem and saying the pledge years ago because it represents war and imperialism. Influenced by anti-American ideology obviously.

Well over 1.3 million American war dead; hundreds of millions freed from tyranny, including genocide and how much land and wealth did America take in return? We only asked for enough land to bury our dead, which are located in hundreds of cemeteries overseas. Trillions in U.S. wealth expended for the freedom of others.

Additionally outside of war, the first responders for worldwide national disasters is the U.S. military providing rescue efforts and material and medical aid without handing over a bill. No other country in the world does this and certainly not at our level of activity.

Puerto Rico and Guam like their present status and have in referendums refused statehood and independence. And we are still sacrificing to protect Europe, Korea, Japan, all countries once enemies rebuilt at our expense.

The writer’s actions are the equivalent to spitting on the graves of those war dead, not based on historical fact, and although a civil right, most certainly a selfish, indecent and dishonorable act.


Today, there was a letter published from a (Caucasian) combat veteran calling out "the hypocrisy of these false patriots. They deny him his right to independent thought and action, while demanding his unquestioning respect for a song that extols our nation as the 'land of the free'." He ended his letter by saying he applauds "Kaepernick's courage in bringing this hypocrisy to the world's attention."

Here's the rest of the letter

The continuing criticism of Colin Kaepernick’s refusal to stand during the singing of “The Star Spangled Banner” demonstrates clearly the hypocrisy of false patriots. They deny him his right to independent thought and action, while demanding his unquestioning respect for a song that extols our nation as the “land of the free.” But are we truly free?

Our prison population surpasses that of all others, and too many of our residents – disproportionately people of color – spend years in jail for nonviolent offenses, exercising their right to dissent, or simply being too poor to post bail.

An open-minded study of U.S. history demonstrates that our current world dominance has been built on the backs of the enslaved, the exploited and those robbed of their cultures when white European imperialists conquered their territories. And a thoughtful reading of our national anthem’s lyrics demonstrate it to be a crass glorification of war and empire-building. It celebrates the fact that our flag “yet waves,” as it did when the lyrics were penned in 1814, over once-sovereign territories that the U.S. conquered by military might.

As a U.S. combat veteran, I applaud Kaepernick’s courage in bringing this hypocrisy to the world’s attention.


And here's my response--still waiting to see if it's published--to the guy who insulted me

As the author of the Sept. 8th letter for which David Campbell (Sept. 11) accused me of being historically inaccurate and of "selfish, indecent, and dishonorable" behavior for not standing during the performance of the national anthem, I would suggest Mr. Campbell do a little reading about the War of 1812. He might discover that the war resulted in a tremendous loss of life and lands of Native Americans (who were supported by the British). The young United States also invaded Ontario, Canada, hoping to annex that land. Canadians consider the defeat of the Americans one of their defining moments in asserting their own independence as a nation.


The War of 1812-- a war of imperialism and calculated expansion by the United States--is celebrated in The Star Spangled Banner written by Francis Scott Key after the Battle for Baltimore in 1814. As of 2015, the United States had been at war--with other countries, Native Americans, or among its own states--for 222 years out of 239 years since 1776. That is historical fact. Look it up.


Neither my husband--Major, USAF (Retired)-- nor many other veterans concerned about social and racial injustice are insulted by my action.

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