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underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 06:09 AM Sep 2016

Public Service Announcement. Wednesday I found a post on FB about a long-time dear friend

who suddenly died at home.

He was youngish, just 51. In great shape, went to the gym regularly, didn't smoke, drank socially, ate well, had a lovely, non-stressful job, and a calm, joyful lifestyle with many great friends. As a gay man, he was very well loved by his friends and colleagues, and known for his smile and quiet humor.

He was found when his neighbor and friends heard his dog had been whining all night. A couple of the neighbors and friends had the police help them to enter the apartment.

He was dead in his bathroom, had a heart attack on the toilet. Apparently, as the cops said, this happens more often that people think. (I even suggested to the friend that found him to perhaps keep that bit of info on the down low, although we KNOW the deceased would have appreciated the irony of it all.)

Well, this is why people die on the toilet, far more often than you think: http://everything2.com/title/Why+people+die+on+the+toilet

That being said, we are finding it nearly impossible to track down his mother, sisters and brother. They're not present on the internet in any fashion. We had only convinced him to get on facebook just 2 years ago. He only got an iphone when his employer 'made' him. His mother moved sometime in the past 6 years and he didn't update her contact info with his employer.

The coroner won't let his friends into the apartment, it's been officially sealed, to get to his iphone, which we hope has his family contact numbers, or to even find a phone book with updated contact info. The coroner policy is to only allow entry with a family member! But, we can't find the family members without entry to the apartment! Bit of a vicious circle there....

So I dug as deep as I could on the web to track down names and last known locations of his mom and sisters and brothers, and at least that info, and have passed it onto the coroner for now, figuring they have access to municipal records that a normal citizen wouldn't.

We've put out a request on his FB page for any info his friends might have, with little results.... It appears his friends really were his family.

I also suggested to his close friend that perhaps a branch might accidentally break a window, and to make sure the branch is wearing gloves if that unforeseen incident takes place.

We also believe he's died without a will, but he doesn't have much in the way of assets, he was a modest fellow. I checked with our mutual friend who used to do his taxes and stuff, and she's never done a will for him.

All of his worldly goods will go to his mother, which isn't a bad thing, I suppose, but she may not have the resources to take care of what all needs disposition. We're hoping she or his sisters/brothers will turn it over to the friends that were his family. I'm thinking his family may not have 'approved of his lifestyle' if they were that off the net/grid.

So, there's some lessons here, DUers. Make sure your contact info is up to date in case of an emergency, and that your friends and family have cross information for each others contacts. Make sure a neighbor has a key, or knows where one is.

At least put your basic wishes in writing, and if you have a genuine estate of any value, make sure it's dedicated to the right people. Better yet, put together a formal will that is very specific.

Lastly, eat your veg, get that toilet step, or take those vitamin E capsules!

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Public Service Announcement. Wednesday I found a post on FB about a long-time dear friend (Original Post) underahedgerow Sep 2016 OP
Sorry for your loss Sherman A1 Sep 2016 #1
Who took the dog? cwydro Sep 2016 #2
The best question! marble falls Sep 2016 #3
Doggie is now living the REALLY good life in Bel Air! He's well loved and looked after underahedgerow Sep 2016 #10
sorry for your loss LittleGirl Sep 2016 #4
Damn...have we reached that age already? I'm 56.... underahedgerow Sep 2016 #16
Yes, we have LittleGirl Sep 2016 #20
Sad malaise Sep 2016 #5
Yes it could have been one or the other. It sure doesn't sound like any intervention other than underahedgerow Sep 2016 #14
Now I'm gaining a new appreciation for all those 'stool softener' ads pinboy3niner Sep 2016 #6
Right? I'm telling you, vitamin E capsules. 2 a day keeps thing rockin' and rollin'. underahedgerow Sep 2016 #11
Everyone should have a contact person TNNurse Sep 2016 #7
It should not be that hard to find his mother and familly classykaren Sep 2016 #8
Have done, but on the really good sites that were getting very close, I wasn't allowed access underahedgerow Sep 2016 #12
Why didn't the police and neighbors look for the phone right away? Phentex Sep 2016 #18
Who knows, but a bunch of hysterical friends don't always make the best decisions during underahedgerow Sep 2016 #19
Everyone should give their friends their contact information! csziggy Sep 2016 #9
That's incredibly sad.... underahedgerow Sep 2016 #13
I am very sorry for your loss bigwillq Sep 2016 #15
Thank you. underahedgerow Sep 2016 #17

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
1. Sorry for your loss
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 06:17 AM
Sep 2016

And you are correct in your thoughts on having your final wishes detailed along with contact information and such.

There is a book that I have found out about here on DU that I have been working through these last few years to get as much down as possible. It's called Before It's Too Late . I got it through Amazon, but there are many similar books and other sources.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
10. Doggie is now living the REALLY good life in Bel Air! He's well loved and looked after
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:33 AM
Sep 2016

but thanks for asking! If it hadn't been for the dog, he may not have been found for even longer. Poor pooch....

LittleGirl

(8,278 posts)
4. sorry for your loss
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 07:29 AM
Sep 2016

we lost a friend about 3 weeks ago. He was fit, married for 21 yrs, wanted to train for a 5k again and was on holiday with his wife in Greece. He woke her up at 4am gasping for breath. She thought he was snoring but realized he was unconscious and tried to give him CPR. By the time the paramedics arrived, he was gone. 53 yrs old and sudden death.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
16. Damn...have we reached that age already? I'm 56....
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:46 AM
Sep 2016

I'm so sorry for your friend, that must be absolutely gut wrenching to lose someone so suddenly.

LittleGirl

(8,278 posts)
20. Yes, we have
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 04:50 AM
Sep 2016

I'm going to be 57 next month and that friend dying so suddenly really shook me up. My father died of heart failure at age 42 and that was life changing for me too...and he was sick for 21 months before that so the family watched him disappear slowly. I think the sudden heart failure was so hard because it just didn't seem plausible for him. But it happens like that sometimes. Thanks.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
5. Sad
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 07:57 AM
Sep 2016

You're a good friend.

One thing though - he was probably on the toilet because he was having a heart attack. More than a few folks have to head to the bathroom while (or shortly before) having a heart attack. I know two recent cases of guys who went to the bathroom, came out and collapsed stone cold dead.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
14. Yes it could have been one or the other. It sure doesn't sound like any intervention other than
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:43 AM
Sep 2016

absolutely on the spot, immediate could have changed the course of anything.

At least his doggie was with him.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
6. Now I'm gaining a new appreciation for all those 'stool softener' ads
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 08:07 AM
Sep 2016

Not to make light of your loss. I'm sorry you lost your friend.

But the incidence of people dying from heart attacks while straining on the toilet makes those ad products look like a good idea for some.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
11. Right? I'm telling you, vitamin E capsules. 2 a day keeps thing rockin' and rollin'.
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:35 AM
Sep 2016

Seriously, he would have appreciated the morbid humor of the whole thing, it's ok to make light of it!

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
7. Everyone should have a contact person
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 08:10 AM
Sep 2016

who knows such info. My sister has never married. I have a list of all her passwords. My husband's brother died in an accident. He lived on our property and we were in close contact. We still had difficulty with cancelling services (phone, internet and such) because we did not know pin numbers or passwords. He did not have many assets and his only bank account was a joint one with my husband. We told a lot of people at the time. I took on the project because even though I loved him and was grieving, my husband was devastated.

People die at all ages and under many unexpected circumstances....

classykaren

(769 posts)
8. It should not be that hard to find his mother and familly
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 08:16 AM
Sep 2016

You can look up on the internet for mothers previous address on a site like peoplefinders some only cost 2.98 for a one time search. I have found lost friends this way.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
12. Have done, but on the really good sites that were getting very close, I wasn't allowed access
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:38 AM
Sep 2016

because I'm not in the USA right now.

We found her previous address, but she moved to Montana and is apparently, probably with the brother who is totally absent on the net. I couldn't even get close to an address for him, just a couple cities. On top of that he has a very common last name.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
18. Why didn't the police and neighbors look for the phone right away?
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:49 AM
Sep 2016

I mean, the first people to enter. Seems like the thing to do would be to call any/every number in the phone and find someone who knew him.

I haven't read every thread so maybe you answered this.

Sorry about your friend!

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
19. Who knows, but a bunch of hysterical friends don't always make the best decisions during
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 12:05 PM
Sep 2016

such a traumatic time I suppose.

And his friends all knew and called each other, but no one ever knew his family.

I'll be shocked if his family is even listed on his Iphone. He hated that thing, and on top of that, it was a work phone, so it's likely he'd have never used it for personal calls.

I'm sure there's an address book in his apartment with all the info, he was very 'old school' like that. I hope someone figures that out sooner rather than later!

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
9. Everyone should give their friends their contact information!
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 09:35 AM
Sep 2016

A friend of my husband's had a heart attack when leaving a football game. During the operation to clear his arteries he had a devastating stroke. He'd been estranged from his family but they had to be contacted so they could make essential decisions.

It took weeks to find his brother and sister and by the time they could make it to town the friend was basically brain dead. He lingered in a nursing home for several months but his family was not able to make amends or to say good bye.

I recommended to the group of friends that they all share their families contact information. These guys have been playing board and card games together for over forty years but don't see each other with families around. But if they had already shared their important numbers the men that were with the friend at the game could have contacted family immediately.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
13. That's incredibly sad....
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 11:40 AM
Sep 2016

For that one reason right now, I'm glad my friend just went out with a bang, instead of lingering on. Now he will always be remembered as young and beautiful....

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