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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsalt right bros may have done a grave disservice to the Trumpster and his campaign.
Yesterday there was a bit of chatter about gaming of the online polls (those that are trollable) being played hard - and even a few screen captures - maybe from 4chan or 8chan - that told folks who to get in to a cloaked mode so one could vote and vote and vote, etc.
Well The Donald, apparently, won't listen to his campaign folks that he needs to prepare better, because he thinks he did great. Look at all those polls. The ones that came out later (you know those where one person's 'vote' counts as one, those done by professional pollsters), he dismissed - probably thinks they are the faked ones.
Read this WaPo piece by Paul Waldman who lays out why the next debate may go much worse for Trump. He starts with the items that have spilled out about Trump's (lack of) prep and why he's not likely to do any serious prep. That made me think again, I wonder if the altright trolls who did serious gaming to skew the insta polls (vote on line) that sent Don the message "Ten Thumbs Up Don! You Won! Your the Man!" will make it impossible for his campaign to rein him in, make him practice and try to mitigate the damage done by the first debate.
The irony of the scenario made me smile.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/09/29/the-first-debate-was-a-defeat-for-trump-heres-why-the-second-could-be-an-outright-massacre/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-f%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.feb1fd0a6a32#comments
The first debate was a defeat for Trump. Heres why the second could be an outright massacre.
By Paul Waldman September 29 at 12:54 PM
If the first step to fixing your problem is acknowledging you have a problem, Donald Trump is in some serious trouble. Were ten days from his second debate with Hillary Clinton, and while most voters and virtually every sane observer agree that Trump did poorly in the first debate, a spate of reporting suggests that his campaign, and especially Trump himself, are in a state of deep denial about what happened and what he needs to do in order to have a different outcome next time.
But thats not all. Because of the format of the second debate, Trump stands to do even worse than he did in the first debate, and Clinton could do even better.
Ill explain why that is in a moment, but first, lets take a quick tour around Trumpland today:
Read the bullet points that follow. Think about the really poor strategy being pursued right now of sending out talking points to surrogates to hit hard on Clinton infidelity (his) - and that it does *nothing* to strategically help Trump. Except he thinks his zingers worked. He thinks his debate performance was great. He thinks *this* is the way to tip the scales, throw Hillary off, THIS IS his next debate strategy.
Thanks alt-right bros. Keep up the good work. (*adds thought to self: idiots*)
Tess49
(1,579 posts)These polls easily convince him that he won, and that he doesn't need to change anything. These fake pollsters harmed, rather than helped, him. They are too dumb to realize it.
Richard D
(8,754 posts)Best debate ever. He wiped the floor with Clinton. He beat her to a pulp. There was nothing he could have done better. So there is absolutely no need for him to do any preparation for the upcoming debates. No reason at all. Already perfect.
Richard D
(8,754 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)given that he ridiculed Hillary for doing the same thing.
salin
(48,955 posts)hope I didn't ruin the echo machine... we want them to keep thinking what you right. *wink, wink*.
calguy
(5,310 posts)on the Drudge Poll. 80%-20%. Who can argue with results like that!?
Am I right or am I right?
LOL
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)exchange with a Trump Rep - challenging the promotion of fake polls. Don't normally think of Todd as terribly strong - but - Kudos. Pointing out the Trump machine embrace of fake polls and calling 'rigged' legit, scientific polls.
joshcryer
(62,271 posts)And he's surrounded by sycophants. It's hilarious.
salin
(48,955 posts)Maybe more folks will recognize that the scam-peror really has no clothes.
NBachers
(17,110 posts)salin
(48,955 posts)Thanks for calling attention to it.
Wounded Bear
(58,660 posts)I have a friend on another board, and his sig line reads:
-Douglas Adams
I think The Donald would fail that exercise.
salin
(48,955 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If it aint broke, don't fix it, Don!