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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 04:06 PM Sep 2016

Washington AP History Lesson: Blacks Had A Stronger 'Work Ethic' When They Were Slaves

A mother in Washington state this week said she was outraged by an AP history lesson which extolled the virtues of slavery and accused Hillary Clinton of "setting back" the women's rights movement.

Archaeologist and author Rachel Grant wrote on Twitter that she felt physically ill after her daughter brought home a 55-page packet titled "U.S. History Special Victims Unit," which she described as a "non-white male hit list."

"This is what her AP history teacher is including as part of the curriculum! Advanced US history with a sharp lesson in present day racism," Grant explained.

According to the document, African-Americans "took full advantage" of welfare programs that were created by President Lyndon B. Johnson's "Great Society."

"The long-term results, however, have been devastating," the document says. "Over three centuries of a strong work ethic, cohesive families, the thirst for education and Christian values as vital parts of the African-American heritage gave way to long-term dependence on the government and the erosion of the work ethic."

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/09/washington-ap-history-lesson-blacks-had

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Washington AP History Lesson: Blacks Had A Stronger 'Work Ethic' When They Were Slaves (Original Post) herding cats Sep 2016 OP
No stronger work ethic incentive than whippings/rapes/lynchings etc. brush Sep 2016 #1
And cohesive family units? awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #10
True. Trying to avoid that could be look at as a good . . . brush Sep 2016 #11
The teacher needs a course in WORK ETHICS. GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #2
*Jaw on floor* salin Sep 2016 #3
Sounds like Republican talking points treestar Sep 2016 #4
+1, the party of The Baskets uponit7771 Sep 2016 #12
oh my god eShirl Sep 2016 #5
During the Civil War, some ingrates actually fled across the lines to the Union side! struggle4progress Sep 2016 #6
how did that get past the curriculum committee? irisblue Sep 2016 #7
As someone that lives in Washington angrychair Sep 2016 #8
Here's her twitter, with scans. LeftyMom Sep 2016 #13
Thank you angrychair Sep 2016 #14
I think the problem is the teacher. She talks about him, though not by name. kcr Sep 2016 #15
I agree angrychair Sep 2016 #16
But we weren't given zero specifics kcr Sep 2016 #17
She is a book author angrychair Sep 2016 #18
Oh, ok. kcr Sep 2016 #19
Not really my point angrychair Sep 2016 #20
Who wrote the orginial, David Barton? sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #9

treestar

(82,383 posts)
4. Sounds like Republican talking points
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 04:22 PM
Sep 2016

There is no proof of their argument that a social safety net has any effects on work ethics. It's just something they want to be true that sounds like a good argument to them, repeated ad nauseum until they think others are afraid to point out the holes in it.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
8. As someone that lives in Washington
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 04:47 PM
Sep 2016

With a HS student in an AP World History class, this is not standard material.
I have read three different versions of this story and none actually says what high school their student is attending.

Not saying it isn't true, just have a lot of questions.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
14. Thank you
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:51 AM
Sep 2016

I have already read her Twitter and she does not identify the school system in it. She still only has a couple of pages on her feed.
I have not seen any other Washington-based news reports on this and a public school teacher sending kids home with filth like that would very likely be in the news here.
With few exceptions, we are a pretty quite and low drama state, so stuff like this would likely get picked up.

Grant states:

While not naming specifics in the incident, Grant did share that the teacher is positioned at a public school somewhere in Washington state.

Over email, Grant explained that she was waiting to hear back from her daughter’s school district before answering questions from the press. This story will be updated accordingly.

http://fusion.net/story/352411/rachel-grant-ap-us-history-special-victims-handout/

We shall see I guess...

kcr

(15,317 posts)
15. I think the problem is the teacher. She talks about him, though not by name.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:31 AM
Sep 2016

She mentions that's he's been a problem before as her daughter's had him for another class. The tweets seem to be focused on one teacher and his material added to the class. I would be raising a stink about that, too.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
16. I agree
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:39 AM
Sep 2016

Just being naturally suspicious and a little sensitive to negative press about my state. Since we are being given zero specifics and she is a book author I am just taking this with a grain of salt until she is willing to give more specific details.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
17. But we weren't given zero specifics
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:43 AM
Sep 2016

She mentions it's a problem with her daughter's teacher and actually shows the material. ETA I think she was trying to avoid being too specific about details to protect her daughter, but after reading a couple tweets it became clear what she was complaining about. Her daughter's AP teacher and his material.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
18. She is a book author
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:52 AM
Sep 2016

That material could be components of a new book she is writing and this is a publicity stunt.
Given she has not stated what school district, school or teacher or even the city or county she lives in, I am reserving judgment on its real or not.
While we have more than our fair share of right-wing lunatics on the eastern side of Washington, which is likely where stuff like this would happen, there has not been any local press about it at all, anywhere in the state.

kcr

(15,317 posts)
19. Oh, ok.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:57 AM
Sep 2016

Of course they will pick on states, those book authors. You have to stand up for your state. Who else will do that? Then you can keep having your kids taught about those lazy black people. That makes sense

Seriously, I don't get why some are rah rah! nationalistic about their states and take any perceived slight so personally. It's as if no reasonable rational person would think teaching that blacks are lazy is a bad thing on its own, my gosh, they must be pickin' on my state, wah!!!

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
20. Not really my point
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:26 PM
Sep 2016

But thanks for painting me as a racist.
It should be natural, for anyone, to do a little more digging and know if what they are reading is real or someone's fantasy.
I already made very clear in my post that what was presented was disgusting and stated, even in the post you are replying to:

While we have more than our fair share of right-wing lunatics on the eastern side of Washington, which is likely where stuff like this would happen

Note "right-wing lunatics" in that.

I do not think it is bad to question Twitter posts, short on critical details, before getting angry.
Get angry at who? You don't know. I don't know.
If a teacher or school district, in Washington or anywhere, wrote that filth (also used in an earlier post in reference to the papers posted on Twitter) I want to know who. If I am going to express outrage and disapproval, I would like to direct it at its source and not make blind faux rage against the machine.
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