Well, the TPP is officially dead...

[Blue_Tires]

The Senate’s top Republican said Thursday that the sweeping 12-nation Pacific Rim trade deal championed by President Obama will remain on ice until another president revives it.

And with both current presidential nominees opposed to the deal’s ratification, that could be the death knell for the Trans-Pacific Partnership, barring a major shift from Democrat Hillary Clinton or Republican Donald Trump.

“Since they negotiate the deals and they send them up, the president is a big, big player in trade,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said at a news conference Thursday. “If we were going to have another discussion about trade, it would have to be led by whoever the next president is.”

Obama has made a renewed push in recent months for congressional ratification of the trade agreement, known as the TPP, with an eye toward persuading Congress to hold a vote on the deal in the post-election lame-duck session. The president has called the largest regional trade and regulatory deal in history one of his top economic priorities and a crucial strategic initiative in the fast-growing Asia Pacific, where the administration has sought to hedge against China’s growing influence.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/09/29/mcconnell-the-trans-pacific-partnership-is-dead-until-a-president-revives-it/?postshare=2221475167743653&tid=ss_tw-bottom

[krispos42]

1. Good.

[Wilms]

2. I'm glad Wikileaks helped to expose it.

[Blue_Tires]

4. I've asked regularly what their vested interest was

in seeing the TPP fail since, you know, it's not something Assange or his people would ever be directly affected by...

Sadly I still never got an answer... I've got a pretty good hunch, but I'm not allowed to say it.

[Wilms]

7. What does "his people" or "directly affected" have to do with it...

...other than an obsessionally critical view? Am I directly affected by the destruction of Iraq? Why should I care we were lied into it?

You're allowed to say anything you want.

[Blue_Tires]

8. No matter how much you oppose what's going on in Iraq

you wouldn't directly sabotage the U.S. military to meet that political end, hypothetically speaking...

[Wilms]

13. Extremely hypothetical.

[former9thward]

3. Nothing is ever dead in Congress.

Look for it to be revived in the lame duck session.

[Blue_Tires]

5. How, when both parties hate it?

[maxsolomon]

9. they're afraid of the populist opinion

they don't actually dislike it - particularly republicans.

after election day, they're no longer beholden to the voters. some of them at least.

[former9thward]

10. Neither party hates it.

Clinton called it the "gold standard" when she was helping negotiate it when she was SOS. The Republicans favor it. No one, but no one, remembers what happens in the lame duck session two years later when the next election comes up. Do you remember what was passed in the Nov-Dec 2014 lame duck session?

[Dawson Leery]

6. I believe in trade. The TPP has many good policies,

but one that I cannot accept. Corporations can sue governments if their wage standards/safety standards cut too much into profits.
That should not be allowed. For me, this is enough to oppose the TPP until the section is removed, if ever.

[Thinkingabout]

11. The Republicans oppose anything by Obama, after the threats from some others

Who wants Obama adminstration to make certain decisions, opposing the TOP is not going to result in accomplishing what they wish. Some things are just wrong.

[TRUMP-BS-DETECTOR]

12. Hillary trusted Obama too much here

Hillary trusted Obama too much where she didn't read the deal. She was told it was a really
good deal and believed it until she actually read it for herself. And its remarkable she read
it because it would take awhile to go thru it. She's not called a policy wonk for nothing. She
just has to win this election. People doubt a better deal can get done. But i believe Hillary
when she says she is going to give it her all by getting the leaders together again to work
out a new trade deal. Trump would be a complete joke on this.

[Mamajami]

14. Don't cry over spilled milk when we are left out of the big global economy. The individual

deals that will have to be struck will eliminate environmental safeguards and fair wages. Just saying.

[tritsofme]

15. I don't necessarily believe him, a lame duck vote is still possible. If not, it will pass in 2017

Possibly with a few cosmetic changes. Hillary's opposition is an artifact of the campaign, not credible IMO. A Democratic House majority is perhaps the only thing that could really put a nail through the deal, but even then it would stand a good shot at passage on the floor under the rules agreed upon in TPA.

[awoke_in_2003]

16. Part of me thinks

Obama publicly supports it so pukes vote against it. Watching him operate, I wouldn't put it past him.