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napkinz

(17,199 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 08:27 PM Sep 2016

CNN Breaking News: Trump Foundation Didn't Get Certification

Just reported on CNN.

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Trump Foundation lacks the certification required for charities that solicit money

By David A. Fahrenthold
September 29 at 8:25 PM

Donald Trump’s charitable foundation — which has been sustained for years by donors outside the Trump family — has never obtained the certification that New York requires before charities can solicit money from the public, according to the state attorney general’s office.

Under the laws in New York, where the Donald J. Trump Foundation is based, any charity that solicits more than $25,000 a year from the public must obtain a special kind of registration beforehand. Charities as large as Trump’s must also submit to a rigorous annual audit that asks — among other things — whether the charity spent any money for the personal benefit of its officers.

If New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (D) finds that Trump’s foundation raised money in violation of the law, he could order the charity to stop raising money immediately. With a court’s permission, Schneiderman could also force Trump to return money that his foundation has already raised.

The Trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment Thursday.

Schneiderman’s office declined to comment on whether it was investigating the lack of registration for the Trump Foundation. Schneiderman had previously launched an investigation of the foundation in the wake of reports by The Washington Post that Trump used his charity’s money to make a political gift, to buy paintings of himself and to settle legal disputes involving his for-profit businesses.

read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-foundation-lacks-the-certification-required-for-charities-that-solicit-money/2016/09/29/7dac6a68-8658-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html

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CNN Breaking News: Trump Foundation Didn't Get Certification (Original Post) napkinz Sep 2016 OP
K&R everyone who recommends should take credit; but what about this ancient monster? Jeffersons Ghost Sep 2016 #1
Trump picked the wrong state to run his fraudulent foundation. ecstatic Sep 2016 #2
I'm sure Trump wishes he had a "Bondi" in NY napkinz Sep 2016 #8
And he claims to be the "law" and "order" champion? Iliyah Sep 2016 #3
CNN commentator just said "It's drip, drip, drip" and that this will come up in the next debate napkinz Sep 2016 #6
Time for CNN to call on the Lewandowski! rurallib Sep 2016 #9
That guy is the most joyless person... wordpix Sep 2016 #61
Victoria Beckham? napkinz Sep 2016 #70
Except it's going to be a stupid Town Hall. LisaM Sep 2016 #10
Hillary will find a way to bring it up napkinz Sep 2016 #18
THIS!!!!! treestar Sep 2016 #65
How did this go unseen for so long? nt greyl Sep 2016 #4
I don't believe it did. ronnie624 Sep 2016 #16
CORRECT Skittles Sep 2016 #56
I can't believe they've just discovered this.... Little Star Sep 2016 #5
I can. Donald thrives on the benefit of doubt that people give him ecstatic Sep 2016 #19
Donald thrive on the benefit of doubt and Stellar Sep 2016 #35
... napkinz Sep 2016 #51
Exactly. BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #48
not surprising DeminPennswoods Sep 2016 #53
Thanks for the background info The Polack MSgt Sep 2016 #60
Thanks DeminPennswoods Sep 2016 #69
welcome to du niyad Sep 2016 #79
Thanks DeminPennswoods Sep 2016 #87
K&R mcar Sep 2016 #7
Farenthold! great job. Schneiderman! great job rurallib Sep 2016 #11
REC. riversedge Sep 2016 #12
Donald's shitstorm of a week continues unabated. Dropping out won't solve anything now. ffr Sep 2016 #13
one scandal after another, and he has to prepare for another debate in 9 days napkinz Sep 2016 #21
Let's hope his brand is in ruins by the end of this! calimary Sep 2016 #39
I think he's imploding, would like to leave race for the "sake of his family " wordpix Sep 2016 #62
This is beyond brazen. BayouBengal07 Sep 2016 #14
Fahrenthold will be on "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell" napkinz Sep 2016 #15
Farenholdt and Eichenwald are going to bring him down. nolabear Sep 2016 #22
and there was Trump this afternoon going after Hillary, "Follow The Money!" napkinz Sep 2016 #23
There he goes projecting again! kentuck Sep 2016 #42
I wonder if his campaign had advised him not to in the first debate napkinz Sep 2016 #64
Yes, and we are also doing our part wordpix Sep 2016 #63
The real reason for not having any paid staff helping run it. tanyev Sep 2016 #17
Rugh Ro. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #20
he's a criminal. plain & simple. spanone Sep 2016 #24
Lock Him Up! napkinz Sep 2016 #25
He looks great in ORANGE. nt Granny M Sep 2016 #47
just in time for Halloween ... napkinz Sep 2016 #49
He sure is. nt Granny M Sep 2016 #59
:) napkinz Sep 2016 #67
Law and order are for everyone but Don the Con malaise Sep 2016 #26
flawed and disorder is more like it napkinz Sep 2016 #27
Remember a few nights ago, okwmember Sep 2016 #28
the ponzi king strikes again. spanone Sep 2016 #29
trump broke yet another law Gothmog Sep 2016 #30
Crooked Donald! napkinz Sep 2016 #33
Oh sweet jesus...not my Donald! Chakaconcarne Sep 2016 #31
Drip drip drip ebbie15644 Sep 2016 #32
Sigh... jtuck004 Sep 2016 #34
here: Gabi Hayes Sep 2016 #43
I believe they need Federal certification. Wonder if they got that, either? George II Sep 2016 #36
Yes. Ms. Toad Sep 2016 #38
"I'm a winner. I know how to win." lindysalsagal Sep 2016 #37
... napkinz Sep 2016 #66
Damn! kentuck Sep 2016 #40
two possibilities ... napkinz Sep 2016 #68
But "who" has the gonads to legally nail Trump for this? Lint Head Sep 2016 #41
Trump's Trashing of the Media Ccarmona Sep 2016 #44
I just two words for this. CROOKED TRUMP!!! Mamajami Sep 2016 #45
an audit of this charity could be very telling.....proceed mr real estate investor spanone Sep 2016 #46
This guy is scum...law & order he demands! FrenchieCat Sep 2016 #50
I love how running for POTUS is exposing his corruption! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2016 #52
I've thought the same thing. LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #72
Why no official investigation for Trump's corruption and fraud? UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #54
TRUMP is the one who is CROOKED Skittles Sep 2016 #55
I just saw a Trump ad on MSNBC napkinz Sep 2016 #75
It would be hysterical if he had to pay back all that money that he funneled into the foundation Chemisse Sep 2016 #57
He's never really been held accountable for anything by anyone napkinz Sep 2016 #76
Chip, chip, chiping away lillypaddle Sep 2016 #58
his tweetstorm this morning is an attempt to distract the media from Foundationgate and Cubagate napkinz Sep 2016 #77
Certification is for the little people. TonyPDX Sep 2016 #71
:) napkinz Sep 2016 #78
It is Schneiderman's JOB as A.G. !! vkkv Sep 2016 #73
I just checked the NYS Charities Bureau listing and this report is accurate Sanity Claws Sep 2016 #74
sadly, this isn't going to change the minds of his loyalists. will only make them dig in deeper, niyad Sep 2016 #80
"sooooooooo persecuted" napkinz Sep 2016 #81
exactly!!! niyad Sep 2016 #82
Lock him up. Mc Mike Sep 2016 #83
Treason, Foundationgate, Cubagate ... napkinz Sep 2016 #84
Rockin'! Rock on! Mc Mike Oct 2016 #88
Thank you the Washington Post.nt. FigTree Sep 2016 #85
especially David A. Fahrenthold napkinz Sep 2016 #86

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
6. CNN commentator just said "It's drip, drip, drip" and that this will come up in the next debate
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 08:35 PM
Sep 2016

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
61. That guy is the most joyless person...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:12 AM
Sep 2016

He and Victoria Beckham, always looking darkly angry.

LisaM

(29,585 posts)
10. Except it's going to be a stupid Town Hall.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 08:42 PM
Sep 2016

I hate that format with its staged questions.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
16. I don't believe it did.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:01 PM
Sep 2016

Certain laws simply don't apply to the super-wealthy, in the same way they apply to the rest of us.

ecstatic

(35,042 posts)
19. I can. Donald thrives on the benefit of doubt that people give him
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:13 PM
Sep 2016

That's how he gets away with so much. For the past 40 years, he's treated his fellow Americans as suckers, most likely laughing himself to sleep every night.

Meanwhile, nobody (prior to now) would assume that he would be bold enough to run a non-certified charity, or use other people's donations to line his own pockets, or promise money to vets with no intention of carrying through, or basically inventing fake employees to do his bidding, or paying zero in taxes. The list goes on and on. It's clear that everything Trump has ever said or done is probably a lie.

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
35. Donald thrive on the benefit of doubt and
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:14 PM
Sep 2016

he loves the uneducated, as he said so often.

BlueMTexpat

(15,668 posts)
48. Exactly.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:53 AM
Sep 2016

Who has been letting this go for years? Have they been paid off (aka bribed)? Trump certainly has plenty of enablers and that is likely only the tip of the iceberg.

DeminPennswoods

(17,374 posts)
53. not surprising
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:53 AM
Sep 2016

I spent about a year at a small local charitable foundation. Even we knew that it was supposed to be registered in our state. But it seemed the registration was kind of on autopilot and no one really checked if it was registered or not. The biggest problem is actually for donors. If the charity isn't registered with the state, some donors could believe it's not legitimate. Also contributions to it might not be tax deductible on the donors' income taxes. In my state, we have a flat income tax and no deduction available for charitable contributions, so the latter doesn't really matter, but that might not be the case in NYC and/or NY or any other state where donors live.

ffr

(23,348 posts)
13. Donald's shitstorm of a week continues unabated. Dropping out won't solve anything now.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 08:49 PM
Sep 2016

His brand is in ruins.

Couldn't happen to an nicer guy, either.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
21. one scandal after another, and he has to prepare for another debate in 9 days
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:15 PM
Sep 2016

Mr. Stamina

calimary

(89,547 posts)
39. Let's hope his brand is in ruins by the end of this!
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:34 PM
Sep 2016

Unfortunately there are still lots of suckers willing to be played some more.

Besides, nobody ever wants to admit they were wrong. It takes MASSIVE character to admit you made a mistake or did something wrong. I've noticed that even the reluctant voters step forward to point out that "at least Hillary admitted she made a mistake and she's apologized. Trump has never apologized."

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
62. I think he's imploding, would like to leave race for the "sake of his family "
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:15 AM
Sep 2016

But now it's too late and guys like reinsed penis won't let him.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
23. and there was Trump this afternoon going after Hillary, "Follow The Money!"
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:23 PM
Sep 2016


I see a Hillary ad in the making

kentuck

(115,346 posts)
42. There he goes projecting again!
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:04 PM
Sep 2016

He's back in the "Crooked Hillary" mode. Will he call her that to her face in the next debate?

tanyev

(49,015 posts)
17. The real reason for not having any paid staff helping run it.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:01 PM
Sep 2016

Can't risk having anyone too competent or ethical realizing what was going on.

okwmember

(345 posts)
28. Remember a few nights ago,
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 09:47 PM
Sep 2016

Farenthold reported that records showed Trump's foundation had only spent like a total of $300 on lawyer's fees in the last 20 years. It looks like Donald should have forked over a few more dollars for someone to file for his certification.

Oh Donald, when you lose this election you are gonna be screwed when you try to go back to all your dirty businesses. If the greedy monsters you raised even let you.

Ms. Toad

(38,467 posts)
38. Yes.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:29 PM
Sep 2016

You can check here:https://apps.irs.gov/app/eos/pub78Search.do?ein1=&names=trump&city=&state=All...&country=US&deductibility=all&dispatchMethod=searchCharities&submitName=Search

But donations to it are limited to 30% of his income - so, given that he directs money directly to the charity that was owed to him in order to avoid counting it as income, it is likely he is not complying with the deductibility limitation.

lindysalsagal

(22,869 posts)
37. "I'm a winner. I know how to win."
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 10:21 PM
Sep 2016

But you don't know how to follow regulations, policies, procedures, past practices, recommendations, or take any advice, legal, or otherwise, from anyone.

Not. Fit. To. Run. Anything.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
44. Trump's Trashing of the Media
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 11:14 PM
Sep 2016

Hasn't gone unnoticed. Thing is, if he wins, he's already said he's going to re-write Libel & Slander laws to benefit him. So the media needs to go all out to bring him down.

FrenchieCat

(68,868 posts)
50. This guy is scum...law & order he demands!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:07 AM
Sep 2016

Someone needs to stop and frisk his lawless ass!

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,519 posts)
52. I love how running for POTUS is exposing his corruption!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:12 AM
Sep 2016

Some of these things might have remained hidden otherwise!

LuvNewcastle

(17,785 posts)
72. I've thought the same thing.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:45 AM
Sep 2016

He probably thought that running for President would gain him some prestige for his brand. He couldn't have been more wrong. It looks like his candidacy is going to ruin his entire business. After all, these issues that are being raised would probably have never seen the light of day if he hadn't decided to run.

UCmeNdc

(9,655 posts)
54. Why no official investigation for Trump's corruption and fraud?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:09 AM
Sep 2016

Trump is breaking the law and the prosecutors are looking the other way. Put Donald Trump under oath.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
75. I just saw a Trump ad on MSNBC
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

It shows a clip of Richard Nixon saying, "People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook." The clip is followed by an image of Hillary.

Talk about PROJECTION!

Chemisse

(31,311 posts)
57. It would be hysterical if he had to pay back all that money that he funneled into the foundation
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:16 AM
Sep 2016

Which he for nefarious reasons.

It's beyond me how sheer bluster could have kept him from being accountable for his actions all these years.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
77. his tweetstorm this morning is an attempt to distract the media from Foundationgate and Cubagate
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:26 AM
Sep 2016

Sanity Claws

(22,394 posts)
74. I just checked the NYS Charities Bureau listing and this report is accurate
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 10:00 AM
Sep 2016

NYS lists all charities, foundations registered with the Charities Bureau. (Some are exempt, such as religious organizations.) Here's a link to the registry. https://www.charitiesnys.com/RegistrySearch/search_charities.jsp

The Trump Foundation's registration category is EPTL, which means it is registered under the Estates Powers and Trust Law. In order to solicit contributions exceeding $25,000, the entity also has to be registered under Article 7-A which allows it to solicit funds.
In other words, all anyone at the Trump Foundation had to do was check the public record to make sure it was properly registered to solicit funds. If the improper registration was just overlooked, they would have caught it when re-registering. It looks bad on several fronts for so many years to pass and no one caught it.

niyad

(131,302 posts)
80. sadly, this isn't going to change the minds of his loyalists. will only make them dig in deeper,
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:33 PM
Sep 2016

because their idol is being sooooooooo persecuted.

Mc Mike

(9,259 posts)
88. Rockin'! Rock on!
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 06:10 AM
Oct 2016

We need Don Was on the case. Imagine what he could do with dRumpfenfuhrer's zillion contradictory pronouncements from the campaign stump.

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