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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJulian Assange has rickrolled all the left and right extremists!
From the press conference not too long ago:
"If we're going to make a major publication in relation to the United States, we don't do it at 3am." - J. Assange
Sorry all of you haters and losers who were hoping for an October surprise! #wikileaks
House of Roberts
(6,505 posts)he could have been in Ecuador, where the announcement could have been made later in the morning.
blogslut
(39,160 posts)It was supposed to be the leak that would "end" Hillary Clinton. It was going to be the October surprise that saved their Cheeto Jesus.
Nope.
It was an anniversary announcement for Wikileaks.
http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/04/wikileaks-just-punkd-the-internet-by-turning-its-rumored-clinton-reveal-into-an-anniversary-event/
After about 10 minutes, Assange threw a big bucket of cold water on the whole hype: Understand, if were going to make a big publication, were not going to do it at 3 a.m. in the United States.
He did say there would still be a big something coming. He said WikiLeaks would be publishing weekly between now and the November 8 election documents related to Google, arms, the election, and some other stuff.
Conservative Twitter was not amused...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Dorian Gray
(13,850 posts)Drudge Report and all those other Trump supporting sites can all go suck a duck.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)The world needs more people like him, in my opinion. Governments should not be allowed to violate the law in secrecy.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)He's full of it. He's a scam artist and, actually, an anti-semite, and given his track record I suspect he actually is just a sleazy sex criminal on the lam and not the brave victim of nefarious forces he has been claiming to be.
Transparency as a principle? A good one. But his organization is now basically just an internet ops arm of Putin's Russia, and their great big "exposures" of late have been less about speaking truth to power and more about things like putting women in Turkey in danger due to having their personal information released. Yes, transparency as a principle is good, but that doesn't mean all information is equal; it doesn't mean someone who releases a million yahoo passwords or credit card numbers is some sort of hero.
Assange's blockbuster "October surprise" was a thing of beauty, though, given that he really had the Trumpkins all hot and bothered that THIS WAS IT IT'S HUGH HILLARY IS FINISHED and... wham! Nothin'
He fucked 'em, and then made fun of the fact that he was fuckin' them in the process; "what sort of idiot would think there would be a huge breaking news release at 3AM"
Koinos
(2,800 posts)They have been exclusively attacking the Democratic party and have allied themselves with Russian hackers. No -- I mean zero -- disclosures have been made to discredit the Republican brand or Trump during this election cycle. Assange has made it his "mission" to assist in the downfall of Clinton and the Democratic party.
Yes, we need more disclosure worldwide of illicit government activities. But we do not need what Assange and Wikileaks have morphed into -- an operative for Trump and serving the agenda of Putin.
If they were striving for balance, they would be hacking the Trump campaign and the Trump organization. Assange is apparently seeking revenge against Obama and Clinton, and he is also apparently willing to sink the United States as a whole by enabling the Trump campaign.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Trump and his supporters, I'm afraid.
blogslut
(39,160 posts)Why is it necessary to compare them to Cheeto Jesus and his supporters?
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)blogslut
(39,160 posts)Why can't you see that?
Why can't you see he has been grossly careless in releasing the personal information of private citizens, putting them in possible danger?
How is that heroic?
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Without him and WikiLeaks, we'd know so much less about how our government operates in the dark. That makes him a hero, in my book.
blogslut
(39,160 posts)Bless your heart.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)He's changed from what he initially was and what he initially was doing.
I know it is difficult to let go of a hero, but he's just not a hero any more.
Heroes are not anti-Semitic.
Heroes do not dox people and release their credit card information
Koinos
(2,800 posts)If so, I disagree totally. He and Wikileaks could have been helpful, had they not allied themselves with Russian intelligence email hackers. Like Trump, they seem to believe that Putin is a better leader than Obama. All humans have flaws, but I reject Putin's agenda. Russia is a wonderful country, but it is presently saddled with a Soviet-style authoritarian who intends to resurrect the old Soviet empire. That is not good for us, not good for Europe, and, in the end, not good for Russia.
Trump has no legitimacy, and half of his supporters are "deplorable," by any standard. I do not like what Assange has made of himself, but I do not think he or any other person should be bothered by praise or blame issuing from deplorables. What morons believe or do not believe about anyone should be regarded with complete indifference.
The only questions to ask any "non-deplorable" (some rationality left) Trump supporter from now on is (1) "How much federal tax have you paid for the last twenty years?" and (2) "How much federal tax has Donald Trump paid for the last twenty years?"
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Trump and his supporters, I'm afraid.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)I don't consider Assange a hero for the reasons Trump supporters do.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)There would not be many politicians left, I'm afraid.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Anti-semite rapists are not heroes.
blue cat
(2,454 posts)Try to take your emotions out of it and read up on him. I know it's hard but I work at being mindfully objective so that I won't fall into the trap that you are in. You owe it to yourself to see how things really are, not just how you feel it is. It is not a reflection on you to have been wrong about Assange. You have more info now.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)And making the exact symmetric argument. And I would be right.
blue cat
(2,454 posts)So your emotions are keeping you in the dark.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)That is why people keep using it.
blue cat
(2,454 posts)You must have missed this science report or didn't get it...http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney
I'll admit that I do feel better about myself because I was able to change my mind about Assange. What's your excuse for holding your ground with new information? The answer is in science. Honestly Helen I was trying to help you. I promised myself that I wouldn't get all emotional like you are doing over a hero that has been knocked down a few pegs. Don't let yourself be Rick-rolled.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)You are guilty of.
blue cat
(2,454 posts)Using the comeback of accusing someone of projection must be your canned response when you get stumped. I'm not acting like you, again, I changed my mind. You are acting like a little girl who is upset about her fairy tale hero not being real. Also, you are using the word projection wrong. Please look the meaning up to help yourself understand.
blue cat
(2,454 posts)Things aren't black and white for there are many shades of grey. I'm sure that he has done some good but the story doesn't end there. I'm confident that people who feel like you do will eventually have to change their mind about him in time. I'll check back with you in a few. Will bookmark for future use. I've had to do the same with friends and family over the Iraq war, Micheal Jackson, Bill Cosby, and some priests. Toots girlie, will see you around hopefully.
blue cat
(2,454 posts)I'm always lurking around here. The DU is addicting and I do love hearing other people's opinions and having a discussion. I'm sorry to have been so condescending so I was wrong about that. My bad.
tblue37
(68,422 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,735 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)2. Which by extension means he's in bed with Trump
Stand and Fight
(7,520 posts)Because of that many -- myself included -- haven't seen Assange as any kind of hero since the beginning. Add in his questionable background and Assange becomes all the more objectionable. So, we shall simply have to disagree. He is no hero.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)I'm afraid, Assange and Snowden have the moral high ground here.
Stand and Fight
(7,520 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)While being a complete douche is not a crime, Assange in particular did not protect his sources, neither of them cared about the actual consequences of their actions.
Skittles
(171,579 posts)but it appears his ego has taken over, BIG TIME
hexola
(4,835 posts)I was so pissed...
I actually woke up to watch this thing
it was just a cheesy video with some stupid musi playing, then a couple of people interviewed with stupid boring stories about how they were involved with wiki-leaks
Then assange got on, looking like he just got out of bed, and then said some stupid stuff about the anniversary of wiki-leaks and then a strange comment about how he had more information but he wasnt going to release it at 3AM...
It was 9AM his time. This was a stupid stupid non-event.
crazylikafox
(2,920 posts)Idiot freeper probably doesn't know about time zones. If this was in Germany, then 9AM IS 3AM eastern time.
C_U_L8R
(49,351 posts)Oh they must be soooo disappointed. Having wasted all that hope and energy
and staying up all night long just to be served yet another rightwing conspiracy shit sandwich.
Poor poor fweepies.
flamingdem
(40,878 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,735 posts)99thMonkey (756 posts) (Reply to original post) October 4, 2016 at 11:09 am
1. I stayed up for this until 2:30, ugh. was there ever any great "announcement"?
I finally gave up trying to even make out what Assange was saying, and just went to bed.
This A.M. I dont see any big new announcements posted anywhere??
Segami (794 posts) (Reply to 99thMonkey - post #1) October 4, 2016 at 11:16 am
2. I expect the first batch of Hillary releases to start this week
..
..I also expect that the first release will be a doozy
.jmo!
I stayed up to watch the full presser
..Im not disappointed
..Im glad that Julian confirmed what his roll-out plan was.
This week, starting today, we should expect the first release.
99thMonkey (756 posts) (Reply to Segami - post #2) October 4, 2016 at 11:24 am
3. Thanks Segami. I'll stay tuned for his doozy.
And plenty more just like these . . . . . the big one is just around the corner. . . they just know it
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