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Stand and Fight

(7,520 posts)
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 05:17 AM Oct 2016

Julian Assange has rickrolled all the left and right extremists!

From the press conference not too long ago:


"If we're going to make a major publication in relation to the United States, we don't do it at 3am." - J. Assange

Sorry all of you haters and losers who were hoping for an October surprise! #wikileaks

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Julian Assange has rickrolled all the left and right extremists! (Original Post) Stand and Fight Oct 2016 OP
If they had just let him leave the embassy, House of Roberts Oct 2016 #1
From my self-closed OP because I don't wanna be no Dupe blogslut Oct 2016 #2
Buy my book! 40% off! Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #5
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #3
Twitter is pretty funny right now, on this. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #4
Maybe he couldn't get WiFI at the embassy? titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #6
all that was missing is the Trump steaks nt geek tragedy Oct 2016 #7
Why all this Assange hate? Helen Borg Oct 2016 #8
He lost whatever claim to moral authority he had, a long time ago. Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #9
Unfortunately, Assange and Wikileaks have gone off track. Koinos Oct 2016 #11
You know who has fun kicking a hero who is already down? Helen Borg Oct 2016 #12
I'm sorry people disagree with you about Assange. blogslut Oct 2016 #13
And neither is necessary to say that Assenge supports Trump. Helen Borg Oct 2016 #14
He has plainly demonstrated he wants to hurt the Democratic party. blogslut Oct 2016 #16
That is your interpretation... Helen Borg Oct 2016 #20
Oh, child. blogslut Oct 2016 #24
It is time for you to re-assess Assange. His recent actions speak louder than words emulatorloo Oct 2016 #25
Are you calling Assange a hero? Koinos Oct 2016 #17
You know who considers him a hero these days? JTFrog Oct 2016 #18
People are not responsible for whether others like them or not. Helen Borg Oct 2016 #21
Well, there will be a ton of politicians happy to hear that. JTFrog Oct 2016 #22
And if we had to judge character based on who crooks and war criminals support. Helen Borg Oct 2016 #27
Or we could just judge them by their actions. JTFrog Oct 2016 #28
Helen, blue cat Oct 2016 #29
But you see, I could be using the same condescending tone with you. Helen Borg Oct 2016 #31
Bwhahaha blue cat Oct 2016 #32
Projection is a good old defense mechanism. It works... Helen Borg Oct 2016 #33
You are really tickling me blue cat Oct 2016 #37
And again, anything you accuse me of... Helen Borg Oct 2016 #38
No way Helen blue cat Oct 2016 #39
This might help you understand... blue cat Oct 2016 #42
I love this place. blue cat Oct 2016 #43
Did you really just say, "I'm rubber, you're glue"? nt tblue37 Oct 2016 #44
That appears to be the depth of that person's ability to present an argument, yes. Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #45
Anti-semite rapists usually aren't considered heroes. nt Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #19
Indeed. nt JTFrog Oct 2016 #23
1. Because he's in bed with the Kremlin Blue_Tires Oct 2016 #30
Some of us have worked with classified information before and seen the direct impact of leaks. Stand and Fight Oct 2016 #35
So, you agree for the US government to classify war crimes and such? Helen Borg Oct 2016 #36
In your opinion, they have the moral high ground. Stand and Fight Oct 2016 #40
No they don't ismnotwasm Oct 2016 #41
I think he started off with good intentions Skittles Oct 2016 #48
Pissed off FReepers thread hexola Oct 2016 #10
"It was 9AM his time" crazylikafox Oct 2016 #15
Are the poor fweepies tired? C_U_L8R Oct 2016 #26
Thanks for my morning wake me up laugh! flamingdem Oct 2016 #34
At JPR, they await faithfully to be RickRolled again! LOL Maru Kitteh Oct 2016 #46
Bunch of deplorable jackasses. n/t Stand and Fight Oct 2016 #47

House of Roberts

(6,505 posts)
1. If they had just let him leave the embassy,
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:04 AM
Oct 2016

he could have been in Ecuador, where the announcement could have been made later in the morning.

blogslut

(39,160 posts)
2. From my self-closed OP because I don't wanna be no Dupe
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:20 AM
Oct 2016

It was supposed to be the leak that would "end" Hillary Clinton. It was going to be the October surprise that saved their Cheeto Jesus.

Nope.

It was an anniversary announcement for Wikileaks.

http://venturebeat.com/2016/10/04/wikileaks-just-punkd-the-internet-by-turning-its-rumored-clinton-reveal-into-an-anniversary-event/

After the first hour, Assange finally appeared at the even via a livestream. And he began his remarks by also offering his thoughts on the impact WikiLeaks has had.

After about 10 minutes, Assange threw a big bucket of cold water on the whole hype: “Understand, if we’re going to make a big publication, we’re not going to do it at 3 a.m. in the United States.”

He did say there would still be a big something coming. He said WikiLeaks would be publishing weekly between now and the November 8 election documents related to Google, arms, the election, and some other stuff.

Conservative Twitter was not amused...

Dorian Gray

(13,850 posts)
3. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 06:23 AM
Oct 2016

Drudge Report and all those other Trump supporting sites can all go suck a duck.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
8. Why all this Assange hate?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 07:33 AM
Oct 2016

The world needs more people like him, in my opinion. Governments should not be allowed to violate the law in secrecy.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. He lost whatever claim to moral authority he had, a long time ago.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:01 AM
Oct 2016

He's full of it. He's a scam artist and, actually, an anti-semite, and given his track record I suspect he actually is just a sleazy sex criminal on the lam and not the brave victim of nefarious forces he has been claiming to be.

Transparency as a principle? A good one. But his organization is now basically just an internet ops arm of Putin's Russia, and their great big "exposures" of late have been less about speaking truth to power and more about things like putting women in Turkey in danger due to having their personal information released. Yes, transparency as a principle is good, but that doesn't mean all information is equal; it doesn't mean someone who releases a million yahoo passwords or credit card numbers is some sort of hero.


Assange's blockbuster "October surprise" was a thing of beauty, though, given that he really had the Trumpkins all hot and bothered that THIS WAS IT IT'S HUGH HILLARY IS FINISHED and... wham! Nothin'



He fucked 'em, and then made fun of the fact that he was fuckin' them in the process; "what sort of idiot would think there would be a huge breaking news release at 3AM"

Koinos

(2,800 posts)
11. Unfortunately, Assange and Wikileaks have gone off track.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:18 AM
Oct 2016

They have been exclusively attacking the Democratic party and have allied themselves with Russian hackers. No -- I mean zero -- disclosures have been made to discredit the Republican brand or Trump during this election cycle. Assange has made it his "mission" to assist in the downfall of Clinton and the Democratic party.

Yes, we need more disclosure worldwide of illicit government activities. But we do not need what Assange and Wikileaks have morphed into -- an operative for Trump and serving the agenda of Putin.

If they were striving for balance, they would be hacking the Trump campaign and the Trump organization. Assange is apparently seeking revenge against Obama and Clinton, and he is also apparently willing to sink the United States as a whole by enabling the Trump campaign.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
12. You know who has fun kicking a hero who is already down?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:44 AM
Oct 2016

Trump and his supporters, I'm afraid.

blogslut

(39,160 posts)
13. I'm sorry people disagree with you about Assange.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:52 AM
Oct 2016

Why is it necessary to compare them to Cheeto Jesus and his supporters?

blogslut

(39,160 posts)
16. He has plainly demonstrated he wants to hurt the Democratic party.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:05 AM
Oct 2016

Why can't you see that?

Why can't you see he has been grossly careless in releasing the personal information of private citizens, putting them in possible danger?

How is that heroic?

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
20. That is your interpretation...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:09 AM
Oct 2016

Without him and WikiLeaks, we'd know so much less about how our government operates in the dark. That makes him a hero, in my book.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
25. It is time for you to re-assess Assange. His recent actions speak louder than words
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:16 AM
Oct 2016

He's changed from what he initially was and what he initially was doing.

I know it is difficult to let go of a hero, but he's just not a hero any more.

Heroes are not anti-Semitic.
Heroes do not dox people and release their credit card information

Koinos

(2,800 posts)
17. Are you calling Assange a hero?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:05 AM
Oct 2016

If so, I disagree totally. He and Wikileaks could have been helpful, had they not allied themselves with Russian intelligence email hackers. Like Trump, they seem to believe that Putin is a better leader than Obama. All humans have flaws, but I reject Putin's agenda. Russia is a wonderful country, but it is presently saddled with a Soviet-style authoritarian who intends to resurrect the old Soviet empire. That is not good for us, not good for Europe, and, in the end, not good for Russia.

Trump has no legitimacy, and half of his supporters are "deplorable," by any standard. I do not like what Assange has made of himself, but I do not think he or any other person should be bothered by praise or blame issuing from deplorables. What morons believe or do not believe about anyone should be regarded with complete indifference.

The only questions to ask any "non-deplorable" (some rationality left) Trump supporter from now on is (1) "How much federal tax have you paid for the last twenty years?" and (2) "How much federal tax has Donald Trump paid for the last twenty years?"

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
18. You know who considers him a hero these days?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:07 AM
Oct 2016

Trump and his supporters, I'm afraid.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
21. People are not responsible for whether others like them or not.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:12 AM
Oct 2016

I don't consider Assange a hero for the reasons Trump supporters do.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
27. And if we had to judge character based on who crooks and war criminals support.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:13 AM
Oct 2016

There would not be many politicians left, I'm afraid.

blue cat

(2,454 posts)
29. Helen,
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

Try to take your emotions out of it and read up on him. I know it's hard but I work at being mindfully objective so that I won't fall into the trap that you are in. You owe it to yourself to see how things really are, not just how you feel it is. It is not a reflection on you to have been wrong about Assange. You have more info now.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
31. But you see, I could be using the same condescending tone with you.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:17 AM
Oct 2016

And making the exact symmetric argument. And I would be right.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
33. Projection is a good old defense mechanism. It works...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:26 AM
Oct 2016

That is why people keep using it.

blue cat

(2,454 posts)
37. You are really tickling me
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 12:26 PM
Oct 2016

You must have missed this science report or didn't get it...http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2011/03/denial-science-chris-mooney

I'll admit that I do feel better about myself because I was able to change my mind about Assange. What's your excuse for holding your ground with new information? The answer is in science. Honestly Helen I was trying to help you. I promised myself that I wouldn't get all emotional like you are doing over a hero that has been knocked down a few pegs. Don't let yourself be Rick-rolled.

blue cat

(2,454 posts)
39. No way Helen
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 12:43 PM
Oct 2016

Using the comeback of accusing someone of projection must be your canned response when you get stumped. I'm not acting like you, again, I changed my mind. You are acting like a little girl who is upset about her fairy tale hero not being real. Also, you are using the word projection wrong. Please look the meaning up to help yourself understand.

blue cat

(2,454 posts)
42. This might help you understand...
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 12:55 PM
Oct 2016

Things aren't black and white for there are many shades of grey. I'm sure that he has done some good but the story doesn't end there. I'm confident that people who feel like you do will eventually have to change their mind about him in time. I'll check back with you in a few. Will bookmark for future use. I've had to do the same with friends and family over the Iraq war, Micheal Jackson, Bill Cosby, and some priests. Toots girlie, will see you around hopefully.

blue cat

(2,454 posts)
43. I love this place.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 12:58 PM
Oct 2016

I'm always lurking around here. The DU is addicting and I do love hearing other people's opinions and having a discussion. I'm sorry to have been so condescending so I was wrong about that. My bad.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
30. 1. Because he's in bed with the Kremlin
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:56 AM
Oct 2016

2. Which by extension means he's in bed with Trump

Stand and Fight

(7,520 posts)
35. Some of us have worked with classified information before and seen the direct impact of leaks.
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:34 AM
Oct 2016

Because of that many -- myself included -- haven't seen Assange as any kind of hero since the beginning. Add in his questionable background and Assange becomes all the more objectionable. So, we shall simply have to disagree. He is no hero.

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
36. So, you agree for the US government to classify war crimes and such?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 11:49 AM
Oct 2016

I'm afraid, Assange and Snowden have the moral high ground here.

ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
41. No they don't
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 12:53 PM
Oct 2016

While being a complete douche is not a crime, Assange in particular did not protect his sources, neither of them cared about the actual consequences of their actions.

Skittles

(171,579 posts)
48. I think he started off with good intentions
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 10:05 PM
Oct 2016

but it appears his ego has taken over, BIG TIME

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
10. Pissed off FReepers thread
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:12 AM
Oct 2016
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3476482/posts

I was so pissed...

I actually woke up to watch this thing

it was just a cheesy video with some stupid musi playing, then a couple of people interviewed with stupid boring stories about how they were involved with wiki-leaks

Then assange got on, looking like he just got out of bed, and then said some stupid stuff about the anniversary of wiki-leaks and then a strange comment about how he had more information but he wasn’t going to release it at 3AM...

It was 9AM his time. This was a stupid stupid non-event.

crazylikafox

(2,920 posts)
15. "It was 9AM his time"
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 08:59 AM
Oct 2016

Idiot freeper probably doesn't know about time zones. If this was in Germany, then 9AM IS 3AM eastern time.

C_U_L8R

(49,351 posts)
26. Are the poor fweepies tired?
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 09:19 AM
Oct 2016

Oh they must be soooo disappointed. Having wasted all that hope and energy
and staying up all night long just to be served yet another rightwing conspiracy shit sandwich.
Poor poor fweepies.

Maru Kitteh

(31,735 posts)
46. At JPR, they await faithfully to be RickRolled again! LOL
Tue Oct 4, 2016, 03:44 PM
Oct 2016

99thMonkey (756 posts) (Reply to original post) October 4, 2016 at 11:09 am
1. I stayed up for this until 2:30, ugh. was there ever any great "announcement"?
I finally gave up trying to even make out what Assange was saying, and just went to bed.
This A.M. I don’t see any big new announcements posted anywhere??


Segami (794 posts) (Reply to 99thMonkey - post #1) October 4, 2016 at 11:16 am
2. I expect the first batch of Hillary releases to start this week…..
…..I also expect that the first release will be a doozy…….jmo!
I stayed up to watch the full presser……..I’m not disappointed…..I’m glad that Julian confirmed what his roll-out plan was.
This week, starting today, we should expect the first release.


99thMonkey (756 posts) (Reply to Segami - post #2) October 4, 2016 at 11:24 am
3. Thanks Segami. I'll stay tuned for his doozy.


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