Trump rally going on right now playing WAGNER

[wheniwasincongress]

playing Wagner's famous "Ride of the Valkyries" to introduce Trump as he comes out to speak

[whatthehey]

1. Well at least his musical taste has improved.

[OKNancy]

2. Really? tone deaf or ignorant or on purpose.... ?

Richard Wagner (1818-1883) was Hitler's favorite composer. During World War I, it is reported, he carried Wagner's music from Tristanin his knapsack. Often Hitler had Wagner's music performed at party rallies and functions. Wagner's music was uncompromisingly serious, and intensely Teutonic. It was not only Wagner's music that 'struck a chord' with Hitler, but also his political views. Wagner wrote a violently antisemitic booklet in the 1850s called Das Judebthum in die Musik (Judaism in Music) insisting the Jews poisoned public taste in the arts. He founded the Bayreuth festival, which in the 1930s and 1940s was used by the Nazi party as a propaganda tool against the Jews.

http://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/arts/musreich.htm

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

27. Wagner wrote "Bridal Chorus" (or what us known commonly as the wedding march).

Commonly used in wedding processionals to announce the bride on what should be a joyous day, this piece plays a less cheerful role in Wagner's opera Lohengrin. Wagner came upon the opera's inspiration around 1845 when he took interest in the legend of the Holy Grail through the poems of Wolfram von Eschenbach and the anonymous epic of Lohengrin. Composed by 1848, Lohengrin features "Bridal Chorus" as the prelude to a very short-lived, doomed marriage between Elsa and Lohengrin. The piece is sung by women serenading Elsa to the bridal suite after the wedding in Act III. It's not the happiest of allusions — and many find it distasteful to be reminded of the notoriously anti-Semitic Wagner during a wedding ceremony (or ever).

http://www.classicalmpr.org/story/2014/07/21/controversial-wedding-music

[fierywoman]

37. re the wedding march

Let's not forget that in the opera Lohengrin, the groom's agreement for marriage is that the bride must never ask his name nor where he comes from, and even after they formally marry, as it turns out (because the bride is finagled into asking who he is) the couple end up never consummating the marriage.

[Kber]

3. Seriously?

[superpatriotman]

4. I refuse to watch - please tell me you're joking

Wagner?

Like Hitler's favorite composer, Wagner?

[wheniwasincongress]

8. Yes!

"Ride of the Valkyries!" even children know the song!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Figures. Wagner was a horrible anti-Semite.

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Although I confess to really liking Parsifal.

[still_one]

13. A lot of folks don't realize that. However, one cannot ignore the gift of his music, even though he

was an asshole

[stopbush]

25. Many Europeans were rampant anti-Semites during Wagner's time.

I recommend the book "Aspects of Wagner" by Bryan Macgee. It's a short read.

[Eleanors38]

30. Bernard Herrmann's Vertigo theme borrowed much from Wagner's Tristan and Isolde.

[lindysalsagal]

6. Kill de wabbit, kill de wabbit....

[still_one]

9. Wagner was one of Hitler's favorites, and Wagner was a vehement anti-Semite

[LongTomH]

10. Ride of the Valkyries, no doubt!

Perfect choice for Herr Dtumpf!!!

[lapfog_1]

12. Well, might as well bring out the swastika

"Wagner was promoted during the Nazi era as one of Adolf Hitler's favourite composers. Historical perception of Wagner has been tainted with this association ever since, and there is debate over how Wagner's writings and operas might have influenced the creation of Nazi Germany."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_controversies

[hlthe2b]

14. He's going full on "Hitler"

Wagner as appropriated by the Nazis after all

[Mme. Defarge]

32. Beat me to it!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

15. Just like The Blues Brothers

[kentuck]

31. Good one!

[malaise]

16. He really lovs his Hitler

Didn't Hitler promote Wagner big time - he's really gone all racist on America.

[Hoyt]

17. Besides Hitler's favorite as pointed out above, Wagner is dead, so he can't hold a press conference

telling the disgusting white wing racist to stop using his music at campaign events.

[anamandujano]

38. He probably would send a cease and desist like all the other artists the GOP rips off.

[PearliePoo2]

18. Hillary can counter with Beethoven's Fifth! nt.

[Princess Turandot]

19. Given that the gods and goddesses all go down in flames in the end...

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...the end being the last act of the 4th (and last) opera in The Ring cycle, in a fire started by the Valkyrie Brünnhilde, it might be more appropriate than they realize!

[Eleanors38]

28. Well, it was a Luftwaffe of sorts.

[gratuitous]

20. How many of the rally attendees are paid to be there?

We'll find out sooner or later.

[Qutzupalotl]

21. Because all the living artists refuse to give him rights

to play their music at his rallies.

[Elwood P Dowd]

22. Have you heard many Sieg Heils? (nm)

[hatrack]

23. It's also public domain - no pesky licensing fees or copyright . . .

Not just suitably "Aryan" music for the "Aryan" candidate, but perfectly suited to his cheap-ass approach to . . well, everything.

[world wide wally]

24. Anybody think that as Trump loses it more and more, he will grow a little mustache?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

33. They really should play something from Götterdämmerung.

At the end of the Ring cycle everything goes up in flames...

[lpbk2713]

34. No one wants to let him use copyrighted music.

He's pissed off too many for using their works without permission.

[Bucky]

35. beautiful theme song from a war all Americans remember we lost

[FrodosPet]

36. I would think this piece is a better representation of the status of Trump's campaign