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rpannier

(24,329 posts)
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:03 AM Oct 2016

To the woman in the Trump Can Grab My P@@@Y Shirt

This is to/about the woman who attended a Trump Rally Wearing a Homemade Shirt that said Trump Can Grab My Pus..

Madam,
I saw a picture of you wearing a homemade tank top shirt sporting 'Trump Can Grab My Pussy'

This has nothing to do with my political feelings toward your shirt or whether my personal morals have been offended or anything. I don't care about the coarse words he used (though some people may). In fact, I am probably one of the last people to have the right to call you, Trump or anyone else out for lax morals; one because my past is hardly one of high morals and virtue, two, maybe, because I don't belong to the Party of Personal Responsibility as you do and three I don't care what you do or want as long as you and the person your with are okay with

Interestingly enough, your shirt goes to the heart of it and you don't seem to be aware of it:

The first is consent. If your shirt rings true and is not some attempt to just garner attention, then you are saying to Mr Trump that he may touch your genital area. Fine. I don't have a problem with that, as long as you both agree to it, I don't care if Donald Trump walks down off the podium in Cincinnati and tells you how much he loves your shirt and wishes to show his appreciation for your support right there.
I'm not going to watch. But... if that's what you want and it happens... good on you.
Again, you both consented.
Which in the case of these other women it wasn't true. They did not consent. By his very words, he admits that he didn't get consent and he didn't care (still doesn't). He just walked up and started groping them. If you still don't understand why that's a problem, maybe you're missing the concept of power, which Mr Trump enjoys flaunting for the whole world.
If you missed it, Mr Trump clearly says he can go backstage where no other men are because he owns the show. He walks in on them while they are in various states of undress and he thinks that's okay

Second, and this is an issue that doesn't just afflict you or just Trump supporters. It's the idea that you seem to think
because I am okay with it happening to me, no one else should have an issue with it either.
Your shirt is a self-important piece of work designed to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your place in the world.
Again, I'm okay with you agreeing to it (point 1) and not having a problem with it. But that doesn't mean others have to accept it just because in your world everything you think is fine is automatically just peachy keen
I'd be curious, had Chuck Schumer, Bernie Sanders, Dick Durbin or Gov Jerry Brown forced themselves upon you and started groping you without your consent would that be okay? Or, would you protest?
And if you did protest, would it be okay for other women (or me) to denigrate you for being whiny when it would be okay with us for these men (or women if it were one) to do so?

TBH, for me, I don't care if he says I groped their pu$$5, grabbed their a$$ or anything else. Do not think of me as a prude. I don't offend easily by those words. But, I think it says something about the individual when they use those words; much the same way when people overuse profane words.
But, this issue really shouldn't be about the middle-school potty mouth Mr Trump posses. It's about the crime he admitted to having committed.
And as I stated in the beginning, your lack of awareness is what your shirt says to me... You missed the whole point and your shirt speaks volumes to that.

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To the woman in the Trump Can Grab My P@@@Y Shirt (Original Post) rpannier Oct 2016 OP
Well said! NanceGreggs Oct 2016 #1
Thanks Nance rpannier Oct 2016 #11
Yeah, she totally missed that part Cha Oct 2016 #16
He's got lots of mirrors; they're all warped. erronis Oct 2016 #22
He got this one slightly used jberryhill Oct 2016 #35
The idea of consent was the first thing I thought when I saw that photo, then Neema Oct 2016 #29
That is the textbook definition of "low information voter". Initech Oct 2016 #2
Well said . . . Richard D Oct 2016 #3
of course rpannier Oct 2016 #5
Exactly, his victims didn't feel honored to be good enough to meet his high standards. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2016 #4
So well put, and written, that I thought this was an article. Stubborn Oct 2016 #6
Excellent post malaise Oct 2016 #7
In a way, her tank top message sounds like Ilsa Oct 2016 #8
Thank you for posting this Sophiegirl Oct 2016 #9
NP rpannier Oct 2016 #13
Well done, rpannier! brer cat Oct 2016 #10
Thank You Brer Cat rpannier Oct 2016 #12
she thinks she and hers are immune treestar Oct 2016 #14
She thinks that's the way "real tough,brawny he-men" are Saphire Oct 2016 #18
Wow.. Excellent point, rpannier! This woman thinks she's funny and does not Cha Oct 2016 #15
Wonder how these people would have reacted if a bunch of Dem women would smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #17
How about Bill Cosby? greymattermom Oct 2016 #19
I think anything said to this woman would go over her head. Nolimit Oct 2016 #20
Agreed. It's a total waste of time trying to reason with folks like this. nt a la izquierda Oct 2016 #27
Absolutely spot on. This OP is a home run. K&R and off to the greatest pages with you! Stonepounder Oct 2016 #21
Some of them have admitted that they don't need consent IronLionZion Oct 2016 #23
K & R SunSeeker Oct 2016 #24
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #25
Oh stage left Oct 2016 #26
It is totally a lesson in consent!! forgotmylogin Oct 2016 #28
K & R mountain grammy Oct 2016 #30
As bad as the sexual stuff is, THIS shows the real danger and threat Trump represents ... nikto Oct 2016 #31
I would ask her if she wanted the same for her daughters, sisters, mother. Akamai Oct 2016 #32
She thinks she is on a reality show Jon King Oct 2016 #33
If only she were capable of reading your well-reasoned arguments. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #34
It also compounds the disrespect for his wife. LeftyMom Oct 2016 #36
And there you have it... jonno1 Apr 2017 #37

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
1. Well said!
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 03:37 AM
Oct 2016

And if I might add?

This woman is oblivious to the fact that her idol would take one look at her, and declare her an old, ugly pig who no man - least of all him - would ever be desperate enough to want. And she'd vote for him anyway - because she's that fuckin' stupid, and that lacking in self-respect.


Cha

(297,154 posts)
16. Yeah, she totally missed that part
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:19 AM
Oct 2016

of trump's persona, even though he's been hurling insults at everyone left and right, who doesn't stand up to his strict inspection.

He must not own any mirrors.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
22. He's got lots of mirrors; they're all warped.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:58 PM
Oct 2016

I think I've seen them for sale online:

- How to make a blutto into a hulk.
- How to make a dumbshit into a witty riposter.
- How to make a sexual predator into a object of non-disgust
- How to make a loser into a presidential candidate
- How to make a loser into a rebuglican candidate (whoops - too easy and it duplicates the prior one)
- How to make a golden-spoon fed aristocrat into a champion of the underdogs/deplorables (sorry, real dogs)
- How to make a family of misfits, perverts into the wannabe First Family

I'm getting tired. This is the most ridiculous excuse for a human being I have ever seen. And yet there are some that want to worship him. Wonder if there aren't some gift checks in the mail...



Neema

(1,151 posts)
29. The idea of consent was the first thing I thought when I saw that photo, then
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:32 PM
Oct 2016

the second thing I thought was "boy she's as clueless about herself as he is about himself." If he saw her he'd declare her way too old, way too fat and way too ugly to touch. Not that it's my opinion about her (although given what she did my opinion about her personality isn't too high), but does she really not understand what this guy is all about?

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
8. In a way, her tank top message sounds like
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 06:50 AM
Oct 2016

She knows and accepts the accusations against thrump. It's a shame she doesn't know or care how degrading sexual assault and sexual battery are. Shame on her.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
9. Thank you for posting this
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:07 AM
Oct 2016

I could write a really terrible rant today, but I am too damn angry right now.

I appreciate that you did.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
14. she thinks she and hers are immune
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:39 AM
Oct 2016

safe from it totally. And so she can afford to laugh at victims of it.

Saphire

(2,437 posts)
18. She thinks that's the way "real tough,brawny he-men" are
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 01:33 PM
Oct 2016

and it excites her. She has no idea what a "real" man is, or how one acts.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
15. Wow.. Excellent point, rpannier! This woman thinks she's funny and does not
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:12 AM
Oct 2016

have one clue why people are so distraught and outraged.

That's exactly what the trumps have been trying to do since he got busted on tape.. distract from his actual sexual assaults by focusing on trying to make light of the word "pussy". For instance when Melania wore that $1000 blouse to the debate called the Pussy Bow.

All the trumps think they're so clever but then she had to plagiarize Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech for her 2016 RNC one.. so not clever after all.

Thank you so much.. this is brilliant!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
17. Wonder how these people would have reacted if a bunch of Dem women would
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:41 AM
Oct 2016

have worn "I'll smoke Bill Clinton's cigar any time!" T-shirts back when the republicans were trying to impeach him?

We never would have heard the end of it.

Nolimit

(142 posts)
20. I think anything said to this woman would go over her head.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 04:33 PM
Oct 2016

Last edited Sat Oct 15, 2016, 06:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Didn't Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer get love letters and marriage proposals from women? Some 26-year old girl almost married Charles Manson a few years ago. Some people are just too nutty to reason with.

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
23. Some of them have admitted that they don't need consent
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 05:09 PM
Oct 2016

like Rush Limbaugh who thinks it is a leftist obsession http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028229346

But the vast majority are willfully clueless. They desperately try to claim it's about something or use false equivalence with Beyonce lyrics or the many female comedians who joke about sex.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
30. K & R
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016

Well said.

I also have a problem with dismissing unwanted sexual advances with the notion that all a woman must do is scream, kick him in the balls, poke him in the eye, whatever, as if no assault would happen if women fought back. While women can and do stop unwanted sexual advances and assault, in many cases, for whatever reason, they don't or can't and they should never be made to feel it's their fault. I've seen too many threads that say, all you have to do is x, y or z and you can stop it. Well, maybe, but not always.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
32. I would ask her if she wanted the same for her daughters, sisters, mother.
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 09:17 PM
Oct 2016

I think not. I know not.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
33. She thinks she is on a reality show
Sat Oct 15, 2016, 10:13 PM
Oct 2016

Thats basically it. That lady thinks this is all just one big reality show. Wearing that shirt made her feel like she was a bigger part of it. In her tiny world, she now thinks she has just a little more prestige.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
36. It also compounds the disrespect for his wife.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 03:28 AM
Oct 2016

She knows he's gross, but she doesn't need to see strange women wearing homemade t shirts inviting her husband to fingerbang them to add insult to the ongoing injury.

jonno1

(1 post)
37. And there you have it...
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 10:08 PM
Apr 2017

Trump can take her medical insurance away, shoot her in the middle of the street, and then grab her pussy, and she's fine with it.

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