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malaise

(268,967 posts)
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 06:56 PM Oct 2016

Will Bob Dylan snub them? Nobel panel gives up knockin’ on Dylan’s door

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/17/nobel-prize-bob-dylan-unable-to-reach
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The Swedish Academy says it has given up trying to reach Bob Dylan, days after it awarded him the Nobel prize in literature.

“Right now we are doing nothing. I have called and sent emails to his closest collaborator and received very friendly replies. For now, that is certainly enough,” the academy’s permanent secretary, Sara Danius, told state radio SR on Monday.

So far the American troubadour has responded with silence since he won the prize on Thursday.
Pop lyrics aren't literature? Tell that to Nobel prize winner Bob Dylan

He gave a concert in Las Vegas that very night, but made no mention of the accolade.

In what may have been a veiled allusion to his long-term reputation for what some have called perversity, and others an admirably dogged persistence in forging his own path, Dylan’s set ended with a cover of Frank Sinatra’s Why Try to Change Me Now.
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Will Bob Dylan snub them? Nobel panel gives up knockin’ on Dylan’s door (Original Post) malaise Oct 2016 OP
Heh.... jberryhill Oct 2016 #1
Nov. 25, 1969: John Lennon returns his MBE Miles Archer Oct 2016 #2
Convictions matter malaise Oct 2016 #6
If the Nobel prize never enters his home True Dough Oct 2016 #3
He was scheduled to play before the Stones Friday at Desert Trip near Palm Springs CA. Hamlette Oct 2016 #4
Maybe it is too establishment for him treestar Oct 2016 #5
Obama on Dylan... spanone Oct 2016 #7
Saw that malaise Oct 2016 #8
he's the consumate artist spanone Oct 2016 #9
Lucky you malaise Oct 2016 #10
Like George C Scott lpbk2713 Oct 2016 #11
Thanks for that malaise Oct 2016 #12

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. Nov. 25, 1969: John Lennon returns his MBE
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:11 PM
Oct 2016
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-lennon-returns-mbe/



Calling a press conference for Nov. 25, 1969 (a portion of which you can watch above), Lennon announced his intention to return his MBE to the Queen and outlined his reasons for doing so, which were succinctly summed up in a typically cheeky note that read as follows:

Your Majesty,
I am returning my MBE as a protest against Britain’s involvement in the Nigeria-Biafra thing, against our support of America in Vietnam and against ‘Cold Turkey’ slipping down the charts.
With love. John Lennon of Bag


As he’d known there would be, Lennon’s decision sparked a public outcry — but as he later pointed out, plenty of people never thought he deserved an MBE in the first place. “Lots of people who complained about us getting the MBE received theirs for heroism in the war,” he shrugged. “They got them for killing people. We deserved ours for not killing people. In a way it was hypocritical of me to accept it, but I’m glad I did, really, because it meant that four years later I was able to use it to make a gesture.”

Although he was relatively distinct in choosing to return his MBE in such a high-profile way, Lennon was far from alone in rejecting royal awards; in 2012, following a Freedom of Information request, the BBC unearthed a list of other would-be recipients, including novelist Roald Dahl and painter L.S. Lowry (who refused multiple honors on five separate occasions).

True Dough

(17,303 posts)
3. If the Nobel prize never enters his home
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:11 PM
Oct 2016

Dylan can sing:


Nothing was delivered
And I tell this truth to you
Not out of spite or anger
But simply because it's true
Now, I hope you won't object to this
Giving back all what you owe
The fewer words you have to waste on this
The sooner you can go.

Nothing is better, nothing is best
Take heed of this and get plenty of rest.

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
4. He was scheduled to play before the Stones Friday at Desert Trip near Palm Springs CA.
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:14 PM
Oct 2016

I would guess he made it. (We went the weekend before, Paul McCartney, The Who, Neil Young, Roger Waters on Sat and Sunday.)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
5. Maybe it is too establishment for him
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:41 PM
Oct 2016

Like rock stars in England getting knighthoods. It doesn't seem to go together.

spanone

(135,830 posts)
7. Obama on Dylan...
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 07:47 PM
Oct 2016
Back in February Bob Dylan performed “The Times They Are A-Changin’” for President Obama and the First Family as part of a celebration for music from the Civil Rights era. That was a while ago, sure, but we just got Obama’s impressions on it now via a Rolling Stone cover story, impressions that might make you want to revisit Dylan’s visit.

Here’s what I love about Dylan: He was exactly as you’d expect he would be. He wouldn’t come to the rehearsal; usually, all these guys are practicing before the set in the evening. He didn’t want to take a picture with me; usually all the talent is dying to take a picture with me and Michelle before the show, but he didn’t show up to that. He came in and played “The Times They Are A-Changin’.” A beautiful rendition. The guy is so steeped in this stuff that he can just come up with some new arrangement, and the song sounds completely different. Finishes the song, steps off the stage… comes up, shakes my hand, sort of tips his head, gives me just a little grin, and then leaves… That was our only interaction with him. And I thought: That’s how you want Bob Dylan, right? You don’t want him to be all cheesin’ and grinnin’ with you. You want him to be a little skeptical about the whole enterprise.


http://www.stereogum.com/529251/obama-on-dylan-he-didn’t-want-to-take-a-picture-with-me/video/

spanone

(135,830 posts)
9. he's the consumate artist
Mon Oct 17, 2016, 08:04 PM
Oct 2016

i've watched him over many, many years....seen him live several times....an enigma

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