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kentuck

(115,406 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:53 AM Oct 2016

Will Trump try to pull a surprise on Hillary Clinton to throw her off balance in the next debate ?

What could he say or do that he hasn't already done?

I'm sure Hillary's team has gone over everything they could imagine, to prepare her for the cornered animal approach he is sure to bring.

The only way I could see him making a comeback is if he went thru a complete transformation and became a different person. If he could look calm and presidential and knowledgeable, he might convince some people that he had changed?

But, Donald is an old dog and new tricks are not his forte.

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Will Trump try to pull a surprise on Hillary Clinton to throw her off balance in the next debate ? (Original Post) kentuck Oct 2016 OP
He may know how to manipulate the media to pay attention to him, but... MANative Oct 2016 #1
I agree. kentuck Oct 2016 #3
Your question captures exactly what's so dangerous about this clown. MANative Oct 2016 #12
I think she should stay out of grabbing/pushing range. fox better use comfortable chairs! Sunlei Oct 2016 #2
I have no doubt he will try .... etherealtruth Oct 2016 #4
He could talk calmly about issues and solutions...that would beachbum bob Oct 2016 #5
I honestly don't think he could keep that up for 90 minutes world wide wally Oct 2016 #11
The one place he has yet to grope. Coyotl Oct 2016 #25
I don't think it's possible for trump to rebound on the next debate Victor_c3 Oct 2016 #6
Emails, Benghazi, Bill, Leaks Jason1961 Oct 2016 #7
The guy is becoming more mentally unstable daily as he reads news reports. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #8
There is nothing he can pull to throw her off balance malaise Oct 2016 #9
He can't throw anything that Hillary can't handle pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #10
He may pull/grab something! He better hold onto his own nuts. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #13
good thing Mr. Trump has small hands, his fellow Republicans aready have him by the balls. Sunlei Oct 2016 #14
He may try to plant someone in the audience to interrupt the debate? kentuck Oct 2016 #15
He clearly had plants at the townhall. underpants Oct 2016 #17
He's bring in the mother of the Benghazi victim kskiska Oct 2016 #16
Time to attack all Republicans for reducing embassy security funding. Coyotl Oct 2016 #27
Chris Stevens parents and family Runningdawg Oct 2016 #33
$1 days he brings up O'Keefe's newest gotcha video underpants Oct 2016 #18
No one cares because Trump supporters make death threats publicly Democat Oct 2016 #24
The reanimated corpse of Vince Foster TlalocW Oct 2016 #19
I think he has shot his wad relayerbob Oct 2016 #20
eww . . .n/t annabanana Oct 2016 #38
In the end, who cares? Hillary Clinton should ignore him and his rants entirely KittyWampus Oct 2016 #21
He's desperate skwira001 Oct 2016 #22
"You can't win debates by simply making stuff up." Jerry442 Oct 2016 #29
will try his best. won't work. recovering_democrat Oct 2016 #23
Putting Pat Smith in the VIP section radical noodle Oct 2016 #26
The fix is in. Chris Wallace has probably given him the debate questions kimbutgar Oct 2016 #28
That would not be a huge suprise PRETZEL Oct 2016 #30
He will have at least 50 million viewers and a live broadcast citood Oct 2016 #31
I am not sure that the ratings will be that high. avebury Oct 2016 #36
Initial estimates are viewership wnt up from debate 2 to 3 citood Oct 2016 #41
He has invited the Benghazi mom who spoke at the RNC Convention. mfcorey1 Oct 2016 #32
He looked like he could barely control himself in the last debate. It seemed he wanted to physically anamandujano Oct 2016 #34
That would be Clinton's last chance. FigTree Oct 2016 #35
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled out his penis. grossproffit Oct 2016 #37
Of course he will quaker bill Oct 2016 #39
We know he is going to get really angry over Michael Moore's movie "Trumpland" playing tonight womanofthehills Oct 2016 #40

MANative

(4,188 posts)
1. He may know how to manipulate the media to pay attention to him, but...
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:56 AM
Oct 2016

he's not that good an actor to pull off "presidential and knowledgeable." Especially because, even if he could fake the demeanor, you can't fake knowledge. He's a big fat zero in that category.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
3. I agree.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

So it would probably be an attack of some sort? Does he have anything new up his sleeve? Or does he plan on attacking Chris Wallace and the "media" for his lack of popularity in the polls?

MANative

(4,188 posts)
12. Your question captures exactly what's so dangerous about this clown.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:18 AM
Oct 2016

He's completely unpredictable, except in the undoubted fact that he, 1) will claim persecution of some sort, and 2) will say something outrageously false, and 3) will blame someone (anyone!) else for his own failures or shortcomings. I think Hillary is as well prepared as she could possibly be for anything he could possibly throw at her. She knows where her vulnerabilities are and knows how to deflect them reasonably well.

I have two concerns about tomorrow's debate that have more to do with the moderator than with tRump. First, Wallace will hammer over and over again on the email issue, for which she's never crafted a "perfect" answer, and second, Wallace will allow tRump to spew lie after lie unchallenged.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
2. I think she should stay out of grabbing/pushing range. fox better use comfortable chairs!
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:57 AM
Oct 2016

Trumps not a happy Republican these days.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
4. I have no doubt he will try ....
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
Oct 2016

... and more likely than not, will fail miserably ... AGAIN.

As parodied on SNL, Clinton is made of steel

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
6. I don't think it's possible for trump to rebound on the next debate
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:05 AM
Oct 2016

He already tried to pull the stunt with Bill and his mistresses. What other stunts could he pull to throw Hillary off balance?

Also, I doubt he could learn the depth of knowledge in various policy fields required to outwit Hillary in any rational debate.

Trump, honestly, has no hope at all of looking good in the next debate unless he is wearing an earpiece and is being fed the answers by others - and can manage to push his ego to the side.

Jason1961

(461 posts)
7. Emails, Benghazi, Bill, Leaks
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:06 AM
Oct 2016

Every topic that's already been exhausted and that the American People aren't interested in any longer (if they ever were)

Hillary will focus on presenting her vision of America and basically pretend he isn't there

Speaking of the leaks has anyone uncovered any good recipes for vegetable beef soup? Not really in the mood for Risotto

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
8. The guy is becoming more mentally unstable daily as he reads news reports.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:07 AM
Oct 2016

Not much telling what he might do. But whatever it is, Hillary will be more than ready for it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. good thing Mr. Trump has small hands, his fellow Republicans aready have him by the balls.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:30 AM
Oct 2016
wait until you're off that national stage Trump, your Republican buddies are pros at ruining lives.

kentuck

(115,406 posts)
15. He may try to plant someone in the audience to interrupt the debate?
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:31 AM
Oct 2016

Screaming "Hillary is a crook!".

underpants

(196,489 posts)
17. He clearly had plants at the townhall.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:40 AM
Oct 2016

I've heard audio of that debate in RW radio that also have laughter added to a few of his lines.

kskiska

(27,165 posts)
16. He's bring in the mother of the Benghazi victim
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:39 AM
Oct 2016

to sit in the front row, if allowed, according to the NY Post.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
33. Chris Stevens parents and family
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 01:43 PM
Oct 2016

have publicly stated many times they do not blame Clinton. Seeing them stump for Trump would be the ultimate October surprise. (edited) I just now saw that it is another mother.

underpants

(196,489 posts)
18. $1 days he brings up O'Keefe's newest gotcha video
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:42 AM
Oct 2016

About the Clinton campaign and the DNC creating all the violence at his events.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
24. No one cares because Trump supporters make death threats publicly
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:34 AM
Oct 2016

Some strange doctored video about a right wing fantasy or the daily death threats made by Trump supporters?

TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
19. The reanimated corpse of Vince Foster
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:45 AM
Oct 2016

He'll be invited and will be sitting in the audience for his shout-out to him and all the other people the Clintons have killed in their quest for power.

TlalocW

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
21. In the end, who cares? Hillary Clinton should ignore him and his rants entirely
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:46 AM
Oct 2016

And do her best to address some topic that is relevant to voters.

 

skwira001

(45 posts)
22. He's desperate
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

Yes he'll throw everything including the kitchen sink in the next debate. I expect him to make up a bunch of things and then MSNBC will say Hillary looked defensive. You can't win debates by simply making stuff up.

The guy talks like the President is a dictator or it's Hillary's fault because her one vote couldn't make 60 in the Senate to pass. It takes 60 votes in the senate and 215 or some where around there in the House.

If I am Hillary, I'd just bring the things in this video:

?t=1m38s And basically that's why I've joined this forum. MSNBC won't touch this. Even The Young Turks who bashes the mainstream media won't touch this which I've brought up to them several times. So my fellow democrats, you need to copy and past this link into Facebook. Tweet this on Twitter and ask fellow democrats to retweet this. Maybe we can get one celebrity with 10 million followers to Tweet this and think of the snow ball effect this can have on Trump. I want to see the House flip as well. Hillary can't do this because she's too disliked, so we must do it for her.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
29. "You can't win debates by simply making stuff up."
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:48 AM
Oct 2016

Actually you can. Back when scientists began debating the Creationists, they were completely unprepared for dealing with a blizzard of lies and applause lines from the Creationists (in front of a Creationist-sympathetic audience, no less).

Hillary should just stand her ground, call out as many lies as possible using the most direct language, and refer people to her website.

23. will try his best. won't work.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:30 AM
Oct 2016

regardless of citizens' perspective on Hillary Clinton as President, this is the real point. This is what we will see in the world once she wins!

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
30. That would not be a huge suprise
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:51 AM
Oct 2016

but it would also be painfully obvious right away with Trump's answers. Knowing the questions beforehand will allow him to script answers and rebuttals.

That has never happened before in anything we've heard from him.

And since it'll not just be Fox listeners, a simple "Gee Donald, I've never heard you say that before, care to expand on that?"

citood

(550 posts)
31. He will have at least 50 million viewers and a live broadcast
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 11:52 AM
Oct 2016

He'll bring up the Okeefe stuff. I guarantee it.

avebury

(11,196 posts)
36. I am not sure that the ratings will be that high.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 04:17 PM
Oct 2016

Viewership dropped from Debate 1 to Debate 2 and I imagine that a lot of sane, rational people are flat out tired of him and just won't be that interested in tuning in.

We already know that Hillary will come in well prepared and ready to deal with any crap he tries to throw her way. By remaining calm she shows him up for the total and utter fool that he is.

Trump will walk in as a walking talking fruit cake. It is way to late for him to turn things around. He brings nothing new to the table and only his rabid followers will worship at his feet. Everyone else is so ready for election day and the end of the nightmare known as Trump.

As long as we GOTV, this election is Hillary's to win. Only a catastrophic event of some kind can stop her momentum at this point.

citood

(550 posts)
41. Initial estimates are viewership wnt up from debate 2 to 3
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 11:19 AM
Oct 2016

The final numbers will probably land north of 70 million people.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
34. He looked like he could barely control himself in the last debate. It seemed he wanted to physically
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:23 PM
Oct 2016

assault her. In his deranged mind it would humiliate her and make her look weak. He doesn't realize it would back up the allegations of his accusers.

I'm not sure I want to watch.

FigTree

(348 posts)
35. That would be Clinton's last chance.
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 02:47 PM
Oct 2016

Ideally, she should provide the public with at least a hint of her reasons for being so secretive/protective. This foggy area is at bottom, I believe, why she fosters suspicion. Because, really, it's not about him any longer. There's nothing he can do/say that he hasn't already done/said. Once elected, this shroud of suspicion will interfere with every move from her administration, which, with around 40% of, let's face it, extreme-right voters is almost the guarantee for a barely governable country. The guarantee of very low rudder-authority. Even if there are some gains down-ballot. As long as this aspect is not at least partially explained, her resilience will continue to be at the same time her best asset and her weakness. Some spin-pundit once said that debates were a sort of MRI of the "soul"...

quaker bill

(8,264 posts)
39. Of course he will
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 09:41 PM
Oct 2016

He has tried already. The reason he now suggests a drug test is that he just cannot get a rise out of her. He is confusing years of training with sedation. Hillary and her team watched the mistakes of the 16 munchkins he ran against in the primary. Trump would cut one out of the herd and lob insults until they fought back. He could then out bully and out bluster them.

Hillary sits back, smiles, and does a shimmy. Then she just answers to the substance and ignores the rest. She does not stand toe to toe and attempt to out bluster him. She steps to the side and moves on. In the process she makes him look all the more like a blithering idiot barking at the moon. If you have ever seen a person having a heated argument over a cell phone in the parking lot, where you can only hear half of the discussion, what you see makes no sense just like that. The person shouting into the cell phone looks to be completely nuts. Perhaps they are, but with only half the conversation, you cannot be truly sure.

She drives him to distraction because she engages the moderators and the audience, not him.

In the R debates he was "that which could not be ignored" and he worked it. In these debates he has been ignored for the most part and he is not dealing with it well. In general when they have engaged, he has been on defense, and the topics were of Hillary's choosing. Even then, she makes the point stick quickly and moves on.

Dispel any notion that you might entertain along the lines of this being accidental. It is a plan, it depends on years of training, and it arises from watching the films of his past games.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
40. We know he is going to get really angry over Michael Moore's movie "Trumpland" playing tonight
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 10:36 PM
Oct 2016

I sure hope Michael has something in there that will push Trump's psychopathy over the edge.

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