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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAlice Cooper “I played with Donald Trump one time, that’s all I’m going to say.”
There are many tales of Trump bending the rules on the golf course. Last year, former Sports Illustrated managing editor Mark Mulvoy told the Washington Post that once playing with Trump in the 1990s he realized that Trump had placed a ball just feet from the pin that he had never hit. Ahh, the guys I play with cheat all the time, Mulvoy said Trump told him. I have to cheat to keep up with them.
Donald Trump had no idea what the Rumbelows Cup was. We didnt explain
The same story referenced an interview Alice Cooper did in 2012 in which the rock star a regular golfer answered a question about the worst golf cheat he had ever played with by saying: I played with Donald Trump one time, thats all Im going to say.
Trump wouldnt be the first politician to massage the truth of his athletic prowess. Bill Clintons propensity for taking mulligans, golfing parlance for do-overs, which are not strictly permitted under the rules, is well documented. Runners World came away with one of the scoops of the 2012 election cycle when it caught Republican vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan shaving more than an hour off his marathon time. When former North Korean leader Kim Jong-il played the first ever round of golf on the 7,700-yard championship course at Pyongyang in October 1994, state media reported that the Dear Leader finished with an 18-hole score of 34, including no less than five holes-in-one.
That said, Trump clearly has some talent as a golfer, as seen in this 2011 YouTube video. But his claim of a three handicap is hard to quantify, especially when his 20 most recent scores on his GHIN index are mostly from 2014 and stretch back to 2009. Even assuming he did not include his best rounds, its not the kind of record you would see from a 70-year-old with a reputation as a scratch golfer.
Lefthacker
(264 posts)I would have known this story a few weeks ago.
I had a really nice chat with Alice Cooper regarding golf
Last month. He's super nice and loves golf.
malaise
(268,938 posts)Bucky
(53,997 posts)ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)Amazing
malaise
(268,938 posts)he can attack others who are way less corrupt
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Last edited Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:08 PM - Edit history (1)
He cheats at everything else so why would anyone expect his golf claims to be true?
Golf is a curious sport with unique components not found in most other activities. One of the most striking elements is that, in general, there isn't a referee adjudicating every stroke. It's a game of honor where the players are required to enforce the rules on themselves. There are times when an official ruling must be determined in competitive play but that doesn't happen often and almost never in most recreational play.
There are two basic approaches to the game: keep a strict adherence to the rules and keep score mercilessly OR go out and have fun and don't fret over the rules or the scores. If a player keeps an official handicap with the USGA, it is understood that they will play strictly by the rules and post every score they shoot for calculating their official handicap index.
Since Mr. Trump cheats, (and in addition to Alice Cooper there are others who've observed Mr. Trump's casual approach to the rules) his claimed handicap is suspect. The false equivalency of Bill Clinton's liberal use of mulligans illustrates that Mr. Clinton plays for fun, that is, he doesn't claim that he's a single-digit player, (for non-golfers, that's an amazingly difficult achievement requiring hours of training every week). Here's an interesting article about Mr. Clinton's golf game:
http://www.golftoday.co.uk/news/yeartodate/news00/clinton.html
Conversely, Donald Trump makes outlandish claims about his abilities. In New York, there's a public course that's managed by Mr. Trump's golf company. It's ridiculously expensive but it's quite beautiful with panoramic views of the NYC skyline and the upper East River. On a par-3 hole, there's a big brass plaque alleging that in the inaugural round, Mr. Trump got a hole-in-one. It sounds to me like a claim Kim Jong-Il would make, and I just don't believe it. That's because Mr. Trump always lies and his arrogance knows no limits.
I cannot imagine spending four hours playing a round with Donald Trump. That would be hellacious. And I hate it when someone cheats and thinks I don't notice it. It's insulting because only one of two things can be true: the cheater thinks I'm too unobservant to see the cheating OR the cheater thinks I'm stupid.
It's the same with Mr. Trump's campaign. He thinks we'll not see his blatant lies and contradictions OR he thinks he's so much smarter than we are that he can gaslight us with his lies.
Donald Trump is an idiot.
malaise
(268,938 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Backatcha! Have a great weekend.
MFM008
(19,805 posts).......
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Aren't you proud of the candidate blurped up on the American people by your buddies in the Republican party? You can tell us how wonderful it was to play golf with Donald Trump.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Not one shred? It's sickening.
malaise
(268,938 posts)He's a 100% lowlife
Skittles
(153,150 posts)he has none
madokie
(51,076 posts)when I read this the first time the last two words were 'snatch grabber'
LOL