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TrollBuster9090

(6,129 posts)
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:52 PM Oct 2016

Best Move: Abedin Should Give FBI Permission to Search Her Email Immediately.

Apparently, the FBI has no warrant to search through Abedin's emails that they found on Weiner's computer. They're waiting for one (which they might not even get).

Two things should be done immediately:

1. Abedin should give the FBI permission to search through her emails, with a legal agreement that they won't disclose any of the content that is not found to be criminal. (ie-For the last 30 years, the Republican method of attacking the Clintons is to get permission to dig through their stuff in search of something criminal, but if you find nothing criminal you just keep digging until you find something EMBARRASSING.) This would show that Camp Clinton has nothing to hide, and nothing to fear.

2. Lynch should order Comey to release more details, and hold a press conference about what he does and DOES NOT know. And what he did and didn't know when he sent out the letter. Under questioning, he will be forced to admit that he has not 're-opened' the Clinton investigation, and does not have any reason to suspect that there is anything criminal in nature on Abedin's computer.
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Best Move: Abedin Should Give FBI Permission to Search Her Email Immediately. (Original Post) TrollBuster9090 Oct 2016 OP
The only question to ask is this: tbennett Oct 2016 #1
That is true still_one Oct 2016 #2
Exactly right. They have no probable cause to look into her email. TrollBuster9090 Oct 2016 #5
Great point! True_Blue Oct 2016 #8
+1, in a wingers mind their "feelings" are everyone else's reality uponit7771 Oct 2016 #11
The certainly have a warrant to look at everything on the device Lee-Lee Oct 2016 #25
i'm in the be done with it camp. unblock Oct 2016 #3
I don't think this is going to produce anything and it does not convince me to vote for Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #4
Best Move would be for Abedin to publish the e-mails Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #6
She doesn't have the laptop. FBI has it. Even assuming she would have wanted to publish her emails. LisaL Oct 2016 #7
I understand. However, electronic information can be duplicated easily Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #10
You suggested she publishes the emails. She doesn't have the laptop or the emails. LisaL Oct 2016 #13
I know. But there's nothing stopping the FBI from giving her a copy of her e-mails Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #18
FBI claims they haven't even looked at the emails because they don't have a warrant. LisaL Oct 2016 #19
You don't have to look at them to make a copy of the hard drive. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2016 #23
Don't think so. Let's get this out of the news and focus on the real criminal ecstatic Oct 2016 #14
The FBI has turned into a partisan organization philosslayer Oct 2016 #15
Suggestion: Agree to a search, like the OP said, without disclosure of any non-criminal emails... backscatter712 Oct 2016 #17
Don't we want disclosure before an election? LisaL Oct 2016 #26
Even if she agrees… regnaD kciN Oct 2016 #27
I can see how that might be a strategy. lovemydog Oct 2016 #28
She already did months ago BainsBane Oct 2016 #29
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tbennett

(22 posts)
1. The only question to ask is this:
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:54 PM
Oct 2016

How do emails APPEAR to be anything, when you don't have legal authority to look at them?

TrollBuster9090

(6,129 posts)
5. Exactly right. They have no probable cause to look into her email.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:59 PM
Oct 2016

And, under normal circumstances, no judge would give them a warrant to look. But if they don't get one, the GOP can continue to spin about what MIGHT be in there. That political hit method is almost as 'good' as the method of hoping that somebody pleads the 5th, and then you can call them up before your committee every other day and accuse them of things, and listen to them plead the 5th in response. It's the best political theatre you can get.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
8. Great point!
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:12 AM
Oct 2016

They wouldn't. Maybe this just a delay tactic, to extend this as long as possible.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
25. The certainly have a warrant to look at everything on the device
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 04:31 PM
Oct 2016

But it's a warrant to look for evidence in another investigation, the one that involves her husband sexting a 15 year old across state lines.

This is pretty common for an investigation with a warrant for one thing to uncover evidence of a totally different crime. What has to happen is a new warrant for evidence related to that investigation must be issued so they can dig deeper into what they found.

This almost certainly will be given by a judge because they found this new evidence in the course of executing a lawful search warrant.

Let me give you an example . Let's say I had reasonable suspicion enough that a person with a restraining order against them had firearms and had arranged with a friend to help obtain them. I went to the judge to get a search warrant. The search warrant will only be for items related to the crime- so I would put firearms, ammunition, firearms accessories and any form of paper or electronic document to communication related to possessing or obtaining firearms.

Now I serve this warrant and since the judge signed off on electronic correspondence related to obtaining a firearm I examine the persons electronic devices. In the course of examining his computer I find images that appear to be child pornagraphy. I immediately halt the search of that device, secure it so that he can't tamper with it, and go to the judge asking for a new warrant to search for child porn.

That's pretty much where we are with this.

unblock

(56,199 posts)
3. i'm in the be done with it camp.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:56 PM
Oct 2016

comey came out looking ugly and partisan here, this is widely seen as a "nothingburger".

the only thing that's damaging is that "emails" is in the headlines again, and that's always bad for hillary.


so why on earth would we try to engineer *more* headlines about emails? the best possible headlines are ones that do not mention emails at all. even headlines that say this latest batch of emails turns out to be nothing is *bad for hillary* because it reminds people of her email "scandal".

no, they had their one shot, it was largely a dud, let's move on.


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. I don't think this is going to produce anything and it does not convince me to vote for
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:56 PM
Oct 2016

A sexual assaulter who is a fraud. BTW, already voted but I am a never Trumper, those are the one who believe everything FOX says.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
6. Best Move would be for Abedin to publish the e-mails
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

Then the FIB would not need a warrant, and everybody would be able to read the e-mails along with the FIB.

LisaL

(47,424 posts)
7. She doesn't have the laptop. FBI has it. Even assuming she would have wanted to publish her emails.
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 11:05 PM
Oct 2016

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
10. I understand. However, electronic information can be duplicated easily
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 06:58 AM
Oct 2016

It's not like other types of evidence; it can be duplicated. There is no reason why the FBI couldn't make a copy of the information on the laptop and either return the laptop or return a copy to it's rightful owners. From there it would be up to her to publish the emails or not publish them.

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
18. I know. But there's nothing stopping the FBI from giving her a copy of her e-mails
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 01:51 PM
Oct 2016

They're hers anyway.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
15. The FBI has turned into a partisan organization
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:28 PM
Oct 2016

They are not to be trusted. I wouldn't give them anything unless via court order.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
17. Suggestion: Agree to a search, like the OP said, without disclosure of any non-criminal emails...
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 12:52 PM
Oct 2016

...and without disclosure of anything at all until after the election.

regnaD kciN

(27,646 posts)
27. Even if she agrees…
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 04:52 PM
Oct 2016

…the FBI will surely say that there are so many, they can't possibly examine them all until, oh, 11/9. In the meantime, scandal! Scandal! Scandal!!!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
28. I can see how that might be a strategy.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 04:53 PM
Oct 2016

I'm not sure I'd trust an agreement that nothing be made public.

If it were me personally, I wouldn't give the FBI permission for anything. Just on principle. Fourth Amendment and all.

I'd be more likely to make them get a subpoena. And appeal anything and everything possible.

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